Gonna take more than that for Debrincat. He probably doesnt get traded off of a down year

I'm pretty sure Chicago declines. They have a lot of LHD.

Also Nurse is only signed for 2 more years and DeBrincat has 3 more years and then is an RFA. Also I'm not even sure Nurse is better than DeBrincat.

I think Edmonton also adds in the Puljujarvi for Mittelstadt trade. Maybe add a 3rd round pick.

How much more do you think we would have to add to the Chicago trade?

I mean I think the original trade was closer, I would go about it by subtracting from that rather than adding to Nurse, but trading Debrincat just doesnt really make sense unless they are trading Debrincat and a piece for an upgrade, as he is right in the wheelhouse of our youth movement, being 22 while we have Dach, Boqvist, Nylander, Mitchell, etc right behind him. I think the Hawks probably wouldnt ask for Bouchard unless they were giving Murphy back as well, but the type of forward the Hawks would be looking for just doesnt exist in the Oilers pipeline or on the oilers team in general

honestly, probably a 1st or a couple 2nds.

Hawks decline. I don't like Nurse being the main piece back for Cat at all. If we wanted to make a deal like this one, Strome for Brodin would make a lot more sense than Cat for Nurse.

Complety agree. We wouldn't trade cat but if we did EDM doesn't make sense at all

Thanks for being honest, but there is no way he has that much more value then Nurse.

They probably ask for Bear with a 1st and a 2nd.

He does. Just by the fact he's an RFA he's basically locked up for 5 years whereas Nurse is only locked up for 2.

On top of Nurse?? But no I wouldn’t trade that much for DeBrincat. There is no way he has way more value in head of Nurse. And there’s no way he has that much value for Bear, 1st, and a 2nd!

Not on top of Nurse. They don't really need Nurse they already have LHD playing the right side. I'm saying a whole new deal with just Bear a 1st and a 2nd.

no i agree. I would say Nurse and a second gets it super close. but I think Nurse is too valuable to the Oilers

Hawks trade would be a good target for Edm but nurse seems like an unlikely candidate to build a deal around for him in my opinion. Really not sure oilers have a logical center piece for a deal like that. I honestly don’t think the value is that crazy off just might not be the cup of tea hawks be looking for. With nurse I really don’t see only two year term being that much of a negative it’s pretty clear trading for a young d like him expecting to sign and have long term if anything it could be seen as more of a positive that they can invest and structure the long term deal themselves.

Maybe to the oilers, but not to me. I would add a little on top of Nurse (like a second like you said, or maybe Puljujarvi).. But I wouldn’t go crazy and add like a first or anything like that. Just a small thing may push it.

Your first round pick for 2020 to get the conversation going, that's how off this is. Nurse is a UFA, Cat a RFA and then there is significant age differences.

Cat is worth a top 8 pick in the draft, that is how good he is. Put it another way, how many players drafted this year in the top 8 will do what he's done at age 22? I bet 3 to 4 will match or best what Cat is done at age 22 which is why it would be a gamble for the Hawks to take a #8OA for Cat....that's like going to the roulette table and betting on red or black with a pick.

If jp refuses to rejoin oilers I think I still stay away from that deal. I just don’t see that 3rd line providing him a realistic chance of being any better in Edmonton than buffalo.

Maybe, or maybe he just needs a change in a different team.

I disagree. The two year term is a huge negative because Chicago is in a rebuild. They are rebuilding right now and probably won't be cup contenders for at least the next 2 years. They might have Nurse walk away before they even get to use him for a cup run.

I disagree. The two year term is a huge negative because Chicago is in a rebuild. They are rebuilding right now and probably won't be cup contenders for at least the next 2 years. They might have Nurse walk away before they even get to use him for a cup run.

I don't see any reason why he'd stay in Chicago over any other team in 2 years.

You don’t trade for a young defender like nurse unless the full intent is resigning and confident in doing so. RFA status is extra security but expectations would be a deal signed long before that’s a factor. I just think too much focus gets put on ufa status not enough on size of upgrade it would be for a team.
I think nurse to the hawks just doesn’t add up like a likely trading partner doesn’t fit to me.
Nurse to habs makes a lot more sense and two year term in that case I think can benefit the habs more than be a negative. Give habs ability to structure the long term extension based off what works for their payroll if that’s heavy with bonuses or not can negotiate the clauses involved.

does chicago really need nurse?

I don’t know. They need defence, so maybe Nurse could be of help. I would add a 2nd or Puljujarvi if we had to but no more.

Definite no from Buffalo.

Thank goodness cause the Oilers can do better