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Since every decent RHD costs Nylander

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
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A centre prospect would be nice but if Akil Thomas is too much he can be swapped out with a pick. Just need the 3rd so Clifford can be re-signed without giving up the 2nd
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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Hamilton (with extension) (easily) costs Liljegren and Nylander¨

Jones costs that or Marner... choose
Jun. 24, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
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Like the idea but do not want to see Dermott moved as he looks to me like the real deal and just needs to be given more responsibility by the Leafs.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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So are you bitter a good righty defender would cost Nylander or because Kapanen/AJ/Bracco offers keep getting refused. Asking for a friend.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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the real questions you guys should be asking is why hamonic goes to toronto for 3.75m you dont figure a team could beat that? Also Bracco is worthless in any trade scenario. He didnt get the call this season. and plenty of guys have hopped over him on the way to the nhl. Idk if dermott and johnsson = thomas and a 3rd though. Thomas is a solid prospect but they also have some solid center prospects at the moment
Jun. 24, 2020 at 5:01 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Hamilton (with extension) (easily) costs Liljegren and Nylander¨

Jones costs that or Marner... choose


If Dougie agreed to extend with Toronto on arrival I wouldnt mind that. Him and Rielly would easily keep the leafs 3rd or above in GF while reducing their GA.

looking for the stats card cause man did he have a good year which got ****ed by that horrific injury
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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So are you bitter a good righty defender would cost Nylander or because Kapanen/AJ/Bracco offers keep getting refused. Asking for a friend.


RHD are more expensive than LHD... Toronto paid Carl Grundstrom, Sean Durzi and a first-round pick in the 2019 for a 30 year old Muzzlin. idk would you say Muzzlin is a top 30 Dman? why would a team take less for a more desirable player?
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 5:10 p.m.
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The hardest part to see from a non TOR fan is it generally just appears that TOR fans are A.) creating trades that are quantity vs quality trades and B.) over valuing their quantity pieces.

Lets use Andreas Johnsson as an example. The link below is AJ's ice time last year. 424 minutes with Auston Matthews and 135 minutes AWAY from Auston Matthews. I bring this up because in order to get the whopping .49 ppg that costs $3.4M dollars... you better have an Auston Matthews on your team AND play them together. I just don't see why TOR fans think he has value.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=TOR&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2019-10-02&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8477341&p2=8479318&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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RHD are more expensive than LHD... Toronto paid Carl Grundstrom, Sean Durzi and a first-round pick in the 2019 for a 30 year old Muzzlin. idk would you say Muzzlin is a top 30 Dman? why would a team take less for a more desirable player?


Here's the thing, those 3 pieces would never land you Nylander. Muzzin also has championship experience and is a fantastic all around Dman. I'm not saying Kapanen is enough for a top 4 RHD with term, just saying Nylander is too much
Jun. 24, 2020 at 5:16 p.m.
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The hardest part to see from a non TOR fan is it generally just appears that TOR fans are A.) creating trades that are quantity vs quality trades and B.) over valuing their quantity pieces.

Lets use Andreas Johnsson as an example. The link below is AJ's ice time last year. 424 minutes with Auston Matthews and 135 minutes AWAY from Auston Matthews. I bring this up because in order to get the whopping .49 ppg that costs $3.4M dollars... you better have an Auston Matthews on your team AND play them together. I just don't see why TOR fans think he has value.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=TOR&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2019-10-02&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8477341&p2=8479318&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0


gotta remember the Johnsson + Matthews numbers were when Babcock was coach and he rarely put matthews out on the ice. When Keefe came Johnsson was hurt so Matthews was put with Hyman and Marner almost immediately which is why his numbers went up. While Johnsson barely played this season which is why his numbers went down. Put Johnsson with Tavares and Nylander and things could get interesting.
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.
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the real questions you guys should be asking is why hamonic goes to toronto for 3.75m you dont figure a team could beat that? Also Bracco is worthless in any trade scenario. He didnt get the call this season. and plenty of guys have hopped over him on the way to the nhl. Idk if dermott and johnsson = thomas and a 3rd though. Thomas is a solid prospect but they also have some solid center prospects at the moment


Bracco didn't get the call due to that fact he banged Kapanen now ex . That is why Kap missed early time due to personal reasons which later was released was relationship related. Then Bracco left the team for personal reasons when a trade was not made. E5
Jun. 24, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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RHD are more expensive than LHD... Toronto paid Carl Grundstrom, Sean Durzi and a first-round pick in the 2019 for a 30 year old Muzzlin. idk would you say Muzzlin is a top 30 Dman? why would a team take less for a more desirable player?


at the time, Toronto needed a LHD, Rielly, Gardiner, and Ozhiganov were not doing well and the Dcore was struggling. Muzzin next to Doughty was LA's best dman and through his season with both the maple leafs and kings had 37 points in 80 games. He provides size, leadership, and is gonna be a great mentor to Liligren one day so it was fine. In general he may be older, but he is still a very good defenseman who can play both sides of the ice well and if necessary deliver a big hit.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.
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Here's the thing, those 3 pieces would never land you Nylander. Muzzin also has championship experience and is a fantastic all around Dman. I'm not saying Kapanen is enough for a top 4 RHD with term, just saying Nylander is too much


I don't disagree with you but Kings got a high end prospect imo and a 1st round pick for an aging dman. when I say aging don't mean declining just a guy who didn't have a lot of term and isn't a guy they are building with moving forward. Nylander has some value but I don't think its anything too crazy. a solid RHD should cost Nylander as long as the contract ($$ and age) makes sense
Jun. 24, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.
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gotta remember the Johnsson + Matthews numbers were when Babcock was coach and he rarely put matthews out on the ice. When Keefe came Johnsson was hurt so Matthews was put with Hyman and Marner almost immediately which is why his numbers went up. While Johnsson barely played this season which is why his numbers went down. Put Johnsson with Tavares and Nylander and things could get interesting.


I hear you 100% that they could make a nice combination! How many teams have a Taveras that they desire to put AJ next to? This is what I'm getting at. $3.4M for a player that NEEDS to be next to elite talent (#1 OA pick talent) shouldn't have a big contract. OR if he does have a big contract...shouldn't have their performance plummet when they're away from the elite talent.
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 6:00 p.m.
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Bracco didn't get the call due to that fact he banged Kapanen now ex . That is why Kap missed early time due to personal reasons which later was released was relationship related. Then Bracco left the team for personal reasons when a trade was not made. E5


Are you talking about when Kapanen missed a game because he was late to practice?
Jun. 24, 2020 at 6:01 p.m.
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Three players the Kings have no use for. Pretty easy no.
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 6:56 p.m.
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We aren't trading Thomas, Roy, Kempe or Lizotte. Please stop this nonsense Leafs fans. There's nothing you have that we want. We are a rebuilding team in need of winger and RHD talent specifically prospects. Do you have any of that?
Jun. 24, 2020 at 6:58 p.m.
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Bracco didn't get the call due to that fact he banged Kapanen now ex . That is why Kap missed early time due to personal reasons which later was released was relationship related. Then Bracco left the team for personal reasons when a trade was not made. E5


Sounds like TMZ type stuff. Are you part of the NHL paparazzi? Please, tell me everything!
Jun. 25, 2020 at 12:51 a.m.
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I don't disagree with you but Kings got a high end prospect imo and a 1st round pick for an aging dman. when I say aging don't mean declining just a guy who didn't have a lot of term and isn't a guy they are building with moving forward. Nylander has some value but I don't think its anything too crazy. a solid RHD should cost Nylander as long as the contract ($$ and age) makes sense


Yes I agree in that a solid RHD costs Nylander, it's just that it seems like some think that any RHD will cost Nylander. To get Nylander, it would have to be a young top 4 RHD with term
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Jun. 25, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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Bracco didn't get the call due to that fact he banged Kapanen now ex . That is why Kap missed early time due to personal reasons which later was released was relationship related. Then Bracco left the team for personal reasons when a trade was not made. E5


yeah, i mean even if that is true, that now makes him a locker room cancer as well which negates his value further.
 
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