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Damien Cox idea

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 27, 2020
Published: Jun. 27, 2020
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Trade he suggested on twitter. What does the capfriendly community think?
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  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
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2020
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Jun. 27, 2020 at 9:56 p.m.
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I would do it
Jun. 27, 2020 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I would do it


Crazy, I don't know if the Leafs would cause it doesn't fit their window but itd be a wild trade
Jun. 27, 2020 at 9:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Crazy, I don't know if the Leafs would cause it doesn't fit their window but itd be a wild trade


I think it's close value wise, but I dont see it ever happening.
Jun. 27, 2020 at 10:02 p.m.
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Ristolinen is a cool guy but his play-style is not good for the leafs. He is a defensive liability and could cost us games. That said he is good offensively so theirs that. With buffalos first being 8th leafs have 0 chance of drafting Drysdale who probs goes 4th or 5th.

So Dubas probably passes unless he has his sights on asterov.
Jun. 27, 2020 at 10:05 p.m.
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This is highway robbery for Toronto. 8th overall, you're looking at someone like Raymond or Perfetti who has the upside to be as good as Nylander is
Jun. 27, 2020 at 10:39 p.m.
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Nylander is not worth 8oa, let alone 8oa and a top 4 RHD. That’s absurd
Jun. 27, 2020 at 10:46 p.m.
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In general, I will be surprised if Dubas is really interested in Risto, because he uses analytics, although rumors about Risto and Toronto appear quite regularly, of course I do not consider Eklund rumors.
Jun. 27, 2020 at 11:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
This is highway robbery for Toronto. 8th overall, you're looking at someone like Raymond or Perfetti who has the upside to be as good as Nylander is


Omg, Buffalo would so this in a heartbeat. This is 8 for Nylander. Taking Risto is a bonus for Buffalo. He’s so bad
Jun. 27, 2020 at 11:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
Nylander is not worth 8oa, let alone 8oa and a top 4 RHD. That’s absurd


Is Risto really a top 4 D? He’s such a liability. Not good at all. His analytics are horrible.
Jun. 27, 2020 at 11:22 p.m.
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Quoting: MJCrv
Is Risto really a top 4 D? He’s such a liability. Not good at all. His analytics are horrible.


Any D that scores pretty much every year 40 points in one of the worst teams in the league can be considered a TOP4 D.

He's just an offensive one.
Jun. 27, 2020 at 11:37 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Any D that scores pretty much every year 40 points in one of the worst teams in the league can be considered a TOP4 D.

He's just an offensive one.

I understand what you’re saying, but he’s such a liability, that the offense is almost negated. I know Buffalo is bad, but he’s part of the problem. I’d make this trade if I’m the Buffalo GM.
Jun. 27, 2020 at 11:45 p.m.
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Quoting: MJCrv
Is Risto really a top 4 D? He’s such a liability. Not good at all. His analytics are horrible.


Does it matter? My point is Nylander is not worth 8oa.
Jun. 27, 2020 at 11:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
Does it matter? My point is Nylander is not worth 8oa.


Why not
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Jun. 27, 2020 at 11:59 p.m.
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The mantra is:
"TML is to D-men what VAN is to G-men!"
Not Good
They are run out of town on a pike pole!!

I will add though - Is Risto's weakness just a function of BUFF?
* If he's in CAR, BOS, ARZ etc. with D-first-centric coaches/systems - Is it a diff story?
Cheers
Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:27 a.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
The mantra is:
"TML is to D-men what VAN is to G-men!"
Not Good
They are run out of town on a pike pole!!

I will add though - Is Risto's weakness just a function of BUFF?
* If he's in CAR, BOS, ARZ etc. with D-first-centric coaches/systems - Is it a diff story?
Cheers

That’s a good question. You’d like to think he’d be a better player on a better team, but the analytics show that he’s just not that good. Calgary has a trade in place for Risto and their analytics Dept. blocked it and said stay away, you don’t want him. That speaks volumes.
Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:29 a.m.
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No way the 1st gets moved for a lazy RW who doesnt love hockey enough to play but instead waits out for more money. Plus no way he'd come to the org that gave up on his brother
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
Does it matter? My point is Nylander is not worth 8oa.


The avg 8th overall pick lands you Bo Horvat. Ideally, you’d keep the pick and hope you land that type of player (especially with how good the top forwards are in this draft), but since drafting is an unknown and the Sabres need to start winning, I’d take Nylander for 8. Taking Risto too just sweetens the pot for Buffalo.
Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Skyraider112
No way the 1st gets moved for a lazy RW who doesnt love hockey enough to play but instead waits out for more money. Plus no way he'd come to the org that gave up on his brother

Gave up on Alex? He’s not good and Jokiharju is so much better. Also, William has no choice in a trade, whether he wants to go or not. Also, holding something against a player for holding out for what he’s worth is ridiculous. It’s a business
Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:48 a.m.
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Quoting: MJCrv
That’s a good question. You’d like to think he’d be a better player on a better team, but the analytics show that he’s just not that good. Calgary has a trade in place for Risto and their analytics Dept. blocked it and said stay away, you don’t want him. That speaks volumes.


Quoting: Skyraider112
No way the 1st gets moved for a lazy RW who doesnt love hockey enough to play but instead waits out for more money. Plus no way he'd come to the org that gave up on his brother

Thanks MJ...
While analytics is certainly an IMPT TOOL - let's be 100% clear - IT'S NOT A TELL-ALL!!

If that alone nix's a trade between some of the best hockey clubs known worldwide - then face it, the professional scouting dept's on 31 clubs are redundant; effective immediately!

As in science, and dealing with data and it's collection/interpretation will attest: GARBAGE IN = GARBAGE OUT!

No matter how many spread-sheets you evaluate, remote data points you crunch - if you do not go out and look/smell/observe and collect the said data yourself; you will fail!
Cheers

PS: Skyraider's assessment speaks volumes, cause I too have seen that player w/ my own eye-test on TV of course.
But when I go to live junior/minor games etc., I get the cheapest seats in the concourse rafters to watch the play from that 20,000-foot view; eye-opening!
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
Does it matter? My point is Nylander is not worth 8oa.


Of course Nylander is worth 8 OA, that pick isn't stepping into Buffalo's line up and doing what Nylander does , this trade is a no from the Leafs, there is interest in Risto but it's shipping Kerfoot and Johnsson for Risto
Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:55 a.m.
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Quoting: MJCrv
The avg 8th overall pick lands you Bo Horvat. Ideally, you’d keep the pick and hope you land that type of player (especially with how good the top forwards are in this draft), but since drafting is an unknown and the Sabres need to start winning, I’d take Nylander for 8. Taking Risto too just sweetens the pot for Buffalo.


Or Mittalestadt
Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:59 a.m.
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Quoting: MJCrv
The avg 8th overall pick lands you Bo Horvat. Ideally, you’d keep the pick and hope you land that type of player (especially with how good the top forwards are in this draft), but since drafting is an unknown and the Sabres need to start winning, I’d take Nylander for 8. Taking Risto too just sweetens the pot for Buffalo.


Or A Nylander, or Risto, or Derrick Pouliot
Jun. 28, 2020 at 1:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
This is highway robbery for Toronto. 8th overall, you're looking at someone like Raymond or Perfetti who has the upside to be as good as Nylander is


This is not highway robbery, what interest do the Leafs have in 8 OA ? Nylander was 8 OA and has just entered his prime, the 2020 8 OA wouldn't be any help for 3/4 years
Jun. 28, 2020 at 3:19 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Any D that scores pretty much every year 40 points in one of the worst teams in the league can be considered a TOP4 D.

He's just an offensive one.


Right... and Toronto already has an offensive D man in Rielly. That makes acquiring Risto redundant.

Leafs need a partner for Rielly who can bring the steadiness on D and generally that doesn't get addressed on cap friendly.
Jun. 28, 2020 at 3:55 a.m.
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Quoting: oneX
Right... and Toronto already has an offensive D man in Rielly. That makes acquiring Risto redundant.

Leafs need a partner for Rielly who can bring the steadiness on D and generally that doesn't get addressed on cap friendly.


Riellys ideal partner would be someone like savard. Good in his own end and can make some smart plays. Ristolinen and rielly would be a turnover waiting to happen. In general I see ristolinen going to a team who needs an offensively gifted dman Toronto has no need as we got lehtonen and rielly for that
 
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