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Trading 8 with Ristolainen

Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2020
Published: Jun. 28, 2020
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  2. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 10:27 a.m.
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i think the hawks accept
Jun. 28, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.
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I would not give away #8 for Strome. Saad is no more valuable to me than Risto.
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.
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I would not give away #8 for Strome. Saad is no more valuable to me than Risto.


Saad rounds out a legit top 6 and if/when we miss the playoffs we flip him for a 1st at the deadline
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.
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Ottawa can find a better use for two 2nds than Montour
Jun. 28, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.
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Saad rounds out a legit top 6 and if/when we miss the playoffs we flip him for a 1st at the deadline


Well, we can trade Risto for Saad, but do not touch our #8, although I’m not sure that Chicago will be interested in this trade. Strome has too many minuses, a knee injury, his skating, which after the injury can be even worse, one season of outbreak, he is not very good in a defensive game. Maybe with us he would have been a guy with 40-45 points. I'd better save #8 and look elsewhere.
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 10:56 a.m.
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Well, we can trade Risto for Saad, but do not touch our #8, although I’m not sure that Chicago will be interested in this trade. Strome has too many minuses, a knee injury, his skating, which after the injury can be even worse, one season of outbreak, he is not very good in a defensive game. Maybe with us he would have been a guy with 40-45 points. I'd better save #8 and look elsewhere.


No way Hawks trade Saad for Risto straight up
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 10:57 a.m.
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Hawks wouldn’t bite on that. We would ask for a forward prospect coming back, not a defensemen on a steep contract.
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
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Last thing the Hawks need is another overpaid defenseman.
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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Well, we can trade Risto for Saad, but do not touch our #8, although I’m not sure that Chicago will be interested in this trade. Strome has too many minuses, a knee injury, his skating, which after the injury can be even worse, one season of outbreak, he is not very good in a defensive game. Maybe with us he would have been a guy with 40-45 points. I'd better save #8 and look elsewhere.


Zero chance Saad for Risto happens strait up. I agree that Strome isn't worth the 8th pick, but Saad and Strome for the 8th is an overpayment by the hawks. We easily decline. Risto means nothing to us
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:09 p.m.
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Zero chance Saad for Risto happens strait up. I agree that Strome isn't worth the 8th pick, but Saad and Strome for the 8th is an overpayment by the hawks. We easily decline. Risto means nothing to us


Both teams decline
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:10 p.m.
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Hawks decline. Don't want risto and would rather keep strome and saad. We can trade saad at the TDL if we're out of it or just extend him. We should keep strome unless a high quality roster player is coming back. Too much risk in trading a 23 year old 2C who has been very good for us who will also be pretty cheap for us for another few years for the 8th pick. For all we know that pick could be the next lias anderson. The odds of hitting on that pick are not good enough to justify the hawks moving strome, even if the value is probably even or even favoring the sabres a bit
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.
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Saad ain't that special anymore. Strome, one good season, I wouldn't give up # 8
Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Well, we can trade Risto for Saad, but do not touch our #8, although I’m not sure that Chicago will be interested in this trade. Strome has too many minuses, a knee injury, his skating, which after the injury can be even worse, one season of outbreak, he is not very good in a defensive game. Maybe with us he would have been a guy with 40-45 points. I'd better save #8 and look elsewhere.


I'm not sure you understand who Dylan Strome is. The Hawks upper management made one of the dumbest moves I've seen since they tried Patrick Kane out at the center position in 2011/2012. You are what you are as a player. Strome was playing the center position until his injury on Jan 7th...He was on pace for a 56 point season...only 1 point behind his "breakout" season. Then he comes back and the geniuses upstairs put him at wing... He proceeds to get 8 points in a month and a half, but even that's too positively skewed because 3 of those points came in one game against the loley Ducks. Point being. Put him at Center and he'll be fine.

The perception of his deficiencies are over blown. He doesn't skate like McDavid/Larkin/Barzal. Got it and 100% agree. Neither does 99% of the league... He doesn't have a long list of injuries. This is the first year he's had any kind of injury even since his days in Erie. Debatable on the #8 OA pick. You could get Casey Mittelstadt or Rasmus Ristolainen or Alex Nylander...so be careful what you wish for.
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.
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I'm not sure you understand who Dylan Strome is. The Hawks upper management made one of the dumbest moves I've seen since they tried Patrick Kane out at the center position in 2011/2012. You are what you are as a player. Strome was playing the center position until his injury on Jan 7th...He was on pace for a 56 point season...only 1 point behind his "breakout" season. Then he comes back and the geniuses upstairs put him at wing... He proceeds to get 8 points in a month and a half, but even that's too positively skewed because 3 of those points came in one game against the loley Ducks. Point being. Put him at Center and he'll be fine.

The perception of his deficiencies are over blown. He doesn't skate like McDavid/Larkin/Barzal. Got it and 100% agree. Neither does 99% of the league...including Eichel. He doesn't have a long list of injuries. This is the first year he's had any kind of injury even since his days in Erie. Debatable on the #8 OA pick. You could get Casey Mittelstadt or Rasmus Ristolainen or Alex Nylander...so be careful what you wish for.


He has too many warts in his game and we need a different type of player. Even Mittelstadt has not yet gone bankrupt, so time will tell. Any draft is a risk.
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 1:48 p.m.
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That's an overpay to chicago imo.
Jun. 28, 2020 at 2:51 p.m.
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Chicago DOES NOT want any defensive players from Buffalo unless it's Dahlin...No Risto, No Montour...Good Lord Sabres fans...how many times does it need to be said before it sinks in? LMAO
Jun. 28, 2020 at 2:54 p.m.
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Saad ain't that special anymore. Strome, one good season, I wouldn't give up # 8


Ummm on pace for 30 goals while also being a top 20 two way winger in the league...Leafs would love to have a defensive winger that could put up 30 goals in their top 6....as would almost every team in the league. The ignorance around Saad by people that don't watch him play is hysterical!
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Chicago DOES NOT want any defensive players from Buffalo unless it's Dahlin...No Risto, No Montour...Good Lord Sabres fans...how many times does it need to be said before it sinks in? LMAO


I understand the Hawks have too many Dmen as it is, but think if a team got Risto, they'd be pleasantly surprised. He gets a pretty terrible reputation on this site.
Jun. 28, 2020 at 2:57 p.m.
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Well, we can trade Risto for Saad, but do not touch our #8, although I’m not sure that Chicago will be interested in this trade. Strome has too many minuses, a knee injury, his skating, which after the injury can be even worse, one season of outbreak, he is not very good in a defensive game. Maybe with us he would have been a guy with 40-45 points. I'd better save #8 and look elsewhere.


Doesn't matter...no way would we trade or any team trade Saad for Risto straight up...saad is simply worth more.

Your characterization of Strome is completely off.
Jun. 28, 2020 at 2:59 p.m.
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I understand the Hawks have too many Dmen as it is, but think if a team got Risto, they'd be pleasantly surprised. He get a pretty terrible reputation on this site.


Risto got his reputation because he hasn't been that great, especially when considering his cap hit. There is a reason he and Montour are included in every single Sabres AGM...rightfully so. Not to mention, the last thing the Hawks need is a bottom 3 or 4 (being generous on 4) defensive player...we have way too many as is.
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Jun. 28, 2020 at 3:20 p.m.
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Doesn't matter...no way would we trade or any team trade Saad for Risto straight up...saad is simply worth more.

Your characterization of Strome is completely off.


Saad does not cost anymore Risto, a winger who receives 6M, who cannot score 50 points, who has one year left under the contract. In what world is he such a valuable player?

My characterization of Strome is mostly taken from Chicago fans.
Jun. 28, 2020 at 3:24 p.m.
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Saad does not cost anymore Risto, a winger who receives 6M, who cannot score 50 points, who has one year left under the contract. In what world is he such a valuable player?

My characterization of Strome is mostly taken from Chicago fans.


Saad was on pace for 30 goals and 47 points and yet you miss the best part of his game, he's a defensive winger also with 40 takeways to 25 giveaways...a puck hawk, that plays on the PK and PP...how many top 6 wingers are that versatile and happen to also score 30 goals? Bottom line, not a chance the Hawks would entertain Risto for Saad nor should they. Most people on this website who rarely ever watch Saad play and simply look at a cap hit and his points make a poor analysis of his worth. Yet so many think Kappanen as an example is worth so much....Kap is a mini version of Saad...may end up being a player but is definitely not today but similar playing styles.
Jun. 28, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
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Saad was on pace for 30 goals and 47 points and yet you miss the best part of his game, he's a defensive winger also with 40 takeways to 25 giveaways...a puck hawk, that plays on the PK and PP...how many top 6 wingers are that versatile and happen to also score 30 goals? Bottom line, not a chance the Hawks would entertain Risto for Saad nor should they. Most people on this website who rarely ever watch Saad play and simply look at a cap hit and his points make a poor analysis of his worth. Yet so many think Kappanen as an example is worth so much....Kap is a mini version of Saad...may end up being a player but is definitely not today but similar playing styles.


I'm not saying that Chicago should make this deal, re-read my very first comment. I said that Chicago will not trade Saad for Risto one on one. But I do not think that Saad’s value is higher than that of Risto, these are two different things.
 
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