Damn though, that Faulk trade is looking pretty bad now for St. Louis and great for Carolina.

tampa declines, but someone needs to pair up McDonagh with someone who's not a defensive defenseman so he becomes good again nvm

McDonagh is gonna be playing 3rd pairing unless someone plays their off side in Tampa. If he's gonna play his offside may as well get someone with the right shot. Same with Faulk in St.Louis.

Seems like a a win win to me.



Yeah not sure why they did that trade. They had Pietrangelo and Parayko already. They needed Edmundson more than Faulk. They got robbed my Montreal for Scandella. That was a result of them trading Edmundson.

It might cost them Parayko.

1- Faulk quite often plays with Petro, who usually mans the left in that tandem.

2- It's a reasonable take, but really far too early to call.

3- Hmm. Scandella has been outstanding for us. The perfect partner to let Parayko open up his offense. We paid well for it, but it's holding value for now.

Edmundson has been pretty bad this year for Carolina though tbh while Scandella has had a career year being very solid, although that likely means Scandella probably won't live up to his extension.

I agree. I don't think Scandella will live up to his extension either.

I don't think Edmundson has been that bad though. He's been better than Faulk for sure.

Faulk played with Pietrangelo a lot in the first half of the season, but has played the vast majority of his minutes with Dunn in the second half of the year- 98 minutes with Pietrangelo versus 173 minutes with Dunn since January 1st - probably because that Faulk/Pietrangelo pairing was bad (though not as bad as Parayko-Pietrangelo). I'm not really a big "handedness" guy but once guys play their whole career on one side, moving them over isn't doing them any favors. Neither is burying Faulk on the third line though that's a big part of why he had such a bad year, which is why trading him for McDonaugh would probably be good for both teams. Especially if we have Pietrangelo still around- do not need three RHD making that much money.

It's been 11 games with Scandella so gotta throw "small sample size" and all that on there. Also, don't look at his stats in non-contract years. He's not great! And that's not even just a "he was on buffalo" thing, he was also on some pretty good Minnesota teams before.



Don't blame the Edmundson-Faulk trade for the Scandella deal, blame Jay Bouwmeester's 36-year-old heart (all due respect to him- love Bouw). We would have needed another defenseman regardless of if we had Edmundson or Faulk after that happened, and the Scandella trade this year was perfectly acceptable and no one would have said anything about it being bad value if Buffalo hadn't stupidly traded him for nothing a month prior.

Edmundson has had some of the worst analytics in the league this year among defensemen. Him and Cody Ceci would be a remarkable pairing. Faulk isn't good, but he's much better than Edmundson. The trade was perfectly fine, Faulk's extension was the problem. Edmundson would have walked at least at the end of this year.They are both third-pairing defensemen at this point. You don't give third pairing defensemen seven year contracts.

Yeah, a brief look at Scandella's non-contract year's underlying numbers and it's pretty clear he will not be living up to that extension. And four years, jeez, too long when we've got Dunn, Perunovich, and Mikkola chomping at the bit.

Nah, it'll cost us Schwartz. I mean, and probably Pietrangelo this year.

Hard to tell if the Faulk extension hurts this team more off ice than on ice.

why does it seem like Armstrong forgot Pietrangelo was going to be a ufa when he made the decision to pay Faulk like that lol

Mac can play on the right