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Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 29, 2020
Published: Jun. 30, 2020
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DET Trade - saw this from a Detroit AGM. I think it's pretty good. Detroit loses Luke Glendening and Adam Erne, two bottom-6 players on expiring contracts, a get back a good goal-scoring prospect who can play now in Kieffer Bellows and take on Andrew Ladd's contract. Ladd was between DET and NYI in 2016, so I'm sure he's open to going there and will waive his NTC if he's guaranteed to at least be in the NHL. In this, I didn't qualify Adam Erne. He's not really needed with Komarov and Johnston (unless someone else takes Komarov's salary).

LAK Trade - LA needs a top-4 LHD and has the cap space to take a salary dump. In this, they get Nick Leddy (top-4 LHD) and Cal Clutterbuck (expensive 4th liner but can play regularly). In exchange, they trade away two replaceable players in Mike Amadio and Daniel Brickley. I would've done Komarov, who LAK fans seem to be okay with taking as well, but with Glendening acquired in the DET trade I figured he's a good Clutterbuck replacement.

CGY Trade - Sam Bennett has been a big disappointment, especially last season. The Isles take a shot with him as a third-liner who can move anywhere in the lineup. Calgary takes back Thomas Hickey, a local boy and a reserve defenseman that can replace some of the defensemen they are losing to free agency. They also get Michael Dal Colle, a young player on a league-minimum contract, and draft picks for taking Hickey's contract and evening out the value for Bennett.
Free Agent Signings
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2$2,500,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$6,750,000
8$6,500,000
6$4,250,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
Trades
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CGY
  1. Dal Colle, Michael
  2. Hickey, Thomas
  3. 2021 4th round pick (NYI)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,838,334$0$1,075,000$1,661,666

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 3
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:02 p.m.
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I like these, all trades are pretty reasonable and doesn't hurt us long term. Contracts seem fair too. Nice job.
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Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:03 p.m.
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I think that Yzerman's philosophy rules out Detroit taking on any "non-players" like Ladd. But your trades are all well considered and realistic and the resulting team is an improvement.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think that Yzerman's philosophy rules out Detroit taking on any "non-players" like Ladd. But your trades are all well considered and realistic and the resulting team is an improvement.


But that's the beauty, Ladd isn't a non-player. He's just a bad fit with the current Isles team. He looked decent in his four games back. I can see him playing on the third or fourth line with DET and providing some leadership. They don't have a lot of quality veterans aside from Filppula, Nielsen, Helm, and Abdelkader.

And yes, I did an AGM on my own with these trades on the other teams and they're all doable for them too.
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Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:13 p.m.
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Detroit declines. I'm sorry but if you want to move Ladd it's going to take a lot than Bellows. Ladd has played more games in the AHL than he has in the NHL over the last 2 seasons. Personally I wouldn't trade Abdelkader for Ladd straight up.
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Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:16 p.m.
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I'm not sure the flames do this, value wise its a good deal so I'm not slamming you at all, it's just that Hickey is LH and what we need are some good RH Dmen.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: CrazyFlamesFan
I'm not sure the flames do this, value wise its a good deal so I'm not slamming you at all, it's just that Hickey is LH and what we need are some good RH Dmen.


Would the Flames do something around Boychuk and Bennett if the Isles sweeten the pot? I think Boychuk would waive his NTC to go to Western Canada or a contender, so Calgary makes a lot of sense for him personally since he's from the Edmonton area.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.
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Detroit declines. I'm sorry but if you want to move Ladd it's going to take a lot than Bellows. Ladd has played more games in the AHL than he has in the NHL over the last 2 seasons. Personally I wouldn't trade Abdelkader for Ladd straight up.


Definitely understandable. Honestly, Ladd can play in the NHL. But at his salary and the way the Isles are built, he just doesn't fit anymore.

If the Isles add Wilde and a 2021 1st (if Isles don't win the lottery) would the Red Wings consider it? What's your prospect situation in terms of organizational need? Another deal I was thinking of was Ladd, Wilde, and a 2021 1st for Darren Helm.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.
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Would the Flames do something around Boychuk and Bennett if the Isles sweeten the pot? I think Boychuk would waive his NTC to go to Western Canada or a contender, so Calgary makes a lot of sense for him personally since he's from the Edmonton area.


Oh most certainly not, Calgary needs a top pairing RD and Boychuk is long past his prime. He hasnt been a positive value asset in 2 years. Would much rather resign Hamonic and keep Bennett over trading for Boychuk
Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:26 p.m.
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Would the Flames do something around Boychuk and Bennett if the Isles sweeten the pot? I think Boychuk would waive his NTC to go to Western Canada or a contender, so Calgary makes a lot of sense for him personally since he's from the Edmonton area.


Flames already have a 35+ year old Dman making $6 million + against the cap., so I would hope they don't consider getting Boychuk. He's declining hard right now.

I do think it's time for Bennett to move on and I don't mind the idea in the OP, but what is the deal with Hickey? Why didn't he play in the NHL this past season, it says he's out for personal reasons?
Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:30 p.m.
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Would the Flames do something around Boychuk and Bennett if the Isles sweeten the pot? I think Boychuk would waive his NTC to go to Western Canada or a contender, so Calgary makes a lot of sense for him personally since he's from the Edmonton area.


I highly doubt it, he's 36 and making 6 million a year. Bennet for Boychuck, Pageau, a 3rd and a 4th would be the minimu because of the massive contract. Giordano is only making 750k more, but is way better. We would probably prefer Travis Hamonic who is making way less. You would need to piut a lot into the pot if your going to dump Boychucks cap on us.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:53 p.m.
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Yeah Detroit's not taking on 3 years of Ladd at $5.5m cap hit for just Keifer Bellows the isles need to provide us more then just bellows to take on Ladds contract. Detroit is just getting out of caphell don't want to go back into it. Especially with a flat cap for another 3 years or so.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 12:59 p.m.
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Oh most certainly not, Calgary needs a top pairing RD and Boychuk is long past his prime. He hasnt been a positive value asset in 2 years. Would much rather resign Hamonic and keep Bennett over trading for Boychuk


Completely understood. I'm very curious how Hamonic will do in free agency. I loved him on NYI frown

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Flames already have a 35+ year old Dman making $6 million + against the cap., so I would hope they don't consider getting Boychuk. He's declining hard right now.

I do think it's time for Bennett to move on and I don't mind the idea in the OP, but what is the deal with Hickey? Why didn't he play in the NHL this past season, it says he's out for personal reasons?


Hickey only lost his spot because of a numbers game. The starting defense was six strong of Pelech-Pulock Toews-Mayfield Leddy-Boychuk, then the Isles felt they had no choice but to keep Noah Dobson in the NHL vs. the AHL (which was the right call). Then when Hickey got to the AHL, he got hurt, his brother got sick (eventually passed away), and because he got hurt the Isles had to trade for Andy Greene. He just had a tragic year on and off the ice. He actually was called up before the pandemic and was on the roster, but didn't find his way into a game yet. He's a very good bottom pairing defenseman.

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I highly doubt it, he's 36 and making 6 million a year. Bennet for Boychuck, Pageau, a 3rd and a 4th would be the minimu because of the massive contract. Giordano is only making 750k more, but is way better. We would probably prefer Travis Hamonic who is making way less. You would need to piut a lot into the pot if your going to dump Boychucks cap on us.


For sure makes sense (obviously we're not giving away Pageau but I get the logic you have). Would you do Boychuk, Bellows, and a 2022 2nd for Bennett?
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Jun. 30, 2020 at 1:05 p.m.
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Yeah Detroit's not taking on 3 years of Ladd at $5.5m cap hit for just Keifer Bellows the isles need to provide us more then just bellows to take on Ladds contract. Detroit is just getting out of caphell don't want to go back into it. Especially with a flat cap for another 3 years or so.


If there's a flat cap for three years, then there will almost certainly be CBOs, in which case the Isles won't have to make a deal like this.

Like I had mentioned, would the Red Wings do Ladd, Wilde, and a 2021 1st for Darren Helm?
Jun. 30, 2020 at 1:06 p.m.
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Hickey only lost his spot because of a numbers game. The starting defense was six strong of Pelech-Pulock Toews-Mayfield Leddy-Boychuk, then the Isles felt they had no choice but to keep Noah Dobson in the NHL vs. the AHL (which was the right call). Then when Hickey got to the AHL, he got hurt, his brother got sick (eventually passed away), and because he got hurt the Isles had to trade for Andy Greene. He just had a tragic year on and off the ice. He actually was called up before the pandemic and was on the roster, but didn't find his way into a game yet. He's a very good bottom pairing defenseman.





Awful news.

As for the trade proposal, if the Flames did that I wouldn't hate it. I'd hate the fact that Bennett didn't reach the heights expected in Calgary and that his value dropped this much, but nothing they can do about it now.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 1:24 p.m.
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Is there anything less than 0% LAK take that deal?? Having cap space and wasting cap space are 2 different things.

It looks like there will be a cbo so the Islanders will be saved from their mistakes...
Jun. 30, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.
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Definitely understandable. Honestly, Ladd can play in the NHL. But at his salary and the way the Isles are built, he just doesn't fit anymore.

If the Isles add Wilde and a 2021 1st (if Isles don't win the lottery) would the Red Wings consider it? What's your prospect situation in terms of organizational need? Another deal I was thinking of was Ladd, Wilde, and a 2021 1st for Darren Helm.


So your saying Bellows + Wilde + 2021 1st (protected 3) + Ladd for Helm? It would be hard to swallow Nielsen, Abdelkader, and Ladd for multiple years with stagnant cap but Id definitely consider it.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 1:27 p.m.
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So your saying Bellows + Wilde + 2021 1st (protected 3) + Ladd for Helm? It would be hard to swallow Nielsen, Abdelkader, and Ladd for multiple years with stagnant cap but Id definitely consider it.


I was saying Wilde instead of Bellows, not both. Or either one I guess.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 1:31 p.m.
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If there's a flat cap for three years, then there will almost certainly be CBOs, in which case the Isles won't have to make a deal like this.

Like I had mentioned, would the Red Wings do Ladd, Wilde, and a 2021 1st for Darren Helm?


Wilde and the 2021 1st would be nice additions to Ladd for Helm i'd probably make that deal.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 1:35 p.m.
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I was saying Wilde instead of Bellows, not both. Or either one I guess.


Gotcha, I’m not a huge Bellows fan and Detroit’s prospect organization strength is RHD (Hronek, Seider, Lindstrom, Tuomisto) so Wilde May be redundant. Detroit’s front office should know Wilde pretty well as Osgood and Devellano are part owners of Saginaw. I’m also not a huge Wahlstrom fan nor do I think the Islanders would part with him and Dobson isn’t going anywhere. I’d be much more open to taking on Boychuk’s contract for a lottery protected 1st in 2021 with a minor add than Ladd.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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Gotcha, I’m not a huge Bellows fan and Detroit’s prospect organization strength is RHD (Hronek, Seider, Lindstrom, Tuomisto) so Wilde May be redundant. Detroit’s front office should know Wilde pretty well as Osgood and Devellano are part owners of Saginaw. I’m also not a huge Wahlstrom fan nor do I think the Islanders would part with him and Dobson isn’t going anywhere. I’d be much more open to taking on Boychuk’s contract for a lottery protected 1st in 2021 with a minor add than Ladd.


I weirdly think Boychuk would waive for Detroit, seems like a Michigan kind of guy tbh (I'm a Michigan fan).

Boychuk, B Prospect, 2021 1st for Helm? I'd actually think about that.
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Jun. 30, 2020 at 2:30 p.m.
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I weirdly think Boychuk would waive for Detroit, seems like a Michigan kind of guy tbh (I'm a Michigan fan).

Boychuk, B Prospect, 2021 1st for Helm? I'd actually think about that.

You wouldn’t even have to take Helm on unless you wanted him. We could also do half retention on Helm otherwise I’m perfectly fine letting him play in Detroit’s bottom 6.
Jun. 30, 2020 at 2:40 p.m.
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You wouldn’t even have to take Helm on unless you wanted him. We could also do half retention on Helm otherwise I’m perfectly fine letting him play in Detroit’s bottom 6.


I'd really like a cheap NHL player in return. We need to fill the roster out and not with prospects. I know Helm's not cheap, but his contract is expiring. I'd do it for Glendening.
 
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