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Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
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Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:08 p.m.
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Remove McDonagh and yes easily
Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:09 p.m.
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Go Sharks Go
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not a fan of either teams but I definitely think they do
Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:10 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Remove McDonagh and yes easily


The whole point of the trade is to dump McDonagh's salary.

Vasilevsky is younger, better and cheaper than Price at this point in their careers.
Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.
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Nah we don't. Price is still an elite goalie and we are not taking 12 millions in cap dump for the next 6 years
Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:22 p.m.
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Nah we don't. Price is still an elite goalie and we are not taking 12 millions in cap dump for the next 6 years


Vasi>>>price

Montreal could be improved by a lot

Mcdonaugh still has value as well.
Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 8, 2020 at 1:55 a.m.
Quoting: SevenLeg
Price is still an elite goalie


tfw you're elite
Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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Sharks say yes
Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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Quoting: SkatinTintin
tfw you're elite

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Where did you find this?

Also I have to say that MTL would maybe accept but we can't take on that much salary
Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.
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Go leafs go
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Nah we don't. Price is still an elite goalie and we are not taking 12 millions in cap dump for the next 6 years


Vasilaski is better than Price NOW I think. So I would think this is one of those trades neither team does.
Jul. 1, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.
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Vasilaski is better than Price NOW I think. So I would think this is one of those trades neither team does.


I've never said the opposite. A 10m$ goalie is still a 10m$ goalie, which is never a good idea, so we're not swapping them just to get younger and take on horrendous contracts
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Jul. 1, 2020 at 3:04 p.m.
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Vasilevskiy is better than Price, but Carey means way more to the habs than just what he does to stop pucks. Plus the extra $12 million for 5+ years would cripple our team. Price is never getting traded, so stop making trades involving him.
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Jul. 1, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
I've never said the opposite. A 10m$ goalie is still a 10m$ goalie, which is never a good idea, so we're not swapping them just to get younger and take on horrendous contracts


Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Vasilevskiy is better than Price, but Carey means way more to the habs than just what he does to stop pucks. Plus the extra $12 million for 5+ years would cripple our team. Price is never getting traded, so stop making trades involving him.


I agree Price never gets traded. He has little value to any other team due to his contract, yet he’s still elite.
Jul. 1, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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I think if TB wants to shed salary, which is the main goal for them, they can do it without getting rid of Vas/this type of mega trade above and just move other assets.

My motto when it comes to making cap space is - You don't need to make infinite cap space, only what is necessary to be compliant.

There are better, less destructive ways to achieving it IMO.

But to answer the question, I'd do this in a New York minute as a Habs fan. The real crux of this is would everyone involved waive their NMC's? Not so sure.
Jul. 1, 2020 at 10:41 p.m.
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I think if TB wants to shed salary, which is the main goal for them, they can do it without getting rid of Vas/this type of mega trade above and just move other assets.

My motto when it comes to making cap space is - You don't need to make infinite cap space, only what is necessary to be compliant.

There are better, less destructive ways to achieving it IMO.

But to answer the question, I'd do this in a New York minute as a Habs fan. The real crux of this is would everyone involved waive their NMC's? Not so sure.


It's gonna be very hard for Tampa to even be cap compliant.

If their RFAs take team friendly contracts and they run a 21 man roster they still need to cut 12M in cap. Even then they need to find a replacement that plays for <1M for the guys they trade out.

Even after this trade Tampa is just bearly cap compliant. They have ~5M in cap space but need to find 4 more players to make a 21 man roster.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.
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It's gonna be very hard for Tampa to even be cap compliant.

If their RFAs take team friendly contracts and they run a 21 man roster they still need to cut 12M in cap. Even then they need to find a replacement that plays for <1M for the guys they trade out.

Even after this trade Tampa is just bearly cap compliant. They have ~5M in cap space but need to find 4 more players to make a 21 man roster.


I think its pretty much certain at this point that they'll need to trade a couple guys who have value, for cheap, possibly buyout someone and replace all open spots with ELC's. Its tough but it can be done. The trade above is almost impossible to coordinate. Too many NMCs plus big name players involved.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 12:28 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
I think its pretty much certain at this point that they'll need to trade a couple guys who have value, for cheap, possibly buyout someone and replace all open spots with ELC's. Its tough but it can be done. The trade above is almost impossible to coordinate. Too many NMCs plus big name players involved.


They have way too many NTC.

Guys getting paid over 2M without full NTC: Point, Cirelli, Sergachev, Cernak, Vasilevsky, Killorn

Guys getting paid over 1M without full NTC: Coleman, Paquette, McElhinney
Jul. 2, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.
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They have way too many NTC.

Guys getting paid over 2M without full NTC: Point, Cirelli, Sergachev, Cernak, Vasilevsky, Killorn

Guys getting paid over 1M without full NTC: Coleman, Paquette, McElhinney


Im confused, are you answering the problem yourself here?

Yes they have to trade some of those guys, possibly buyout a guy like Gourde and make sure the RFA take bridge deals.

Thats without moving a guy like Johnson, Palat, mCDonagh, Gourde if possible, etc etc.

Plus some of those guys dont have full NMCs i dont think. Only modified NTC. Palat maybe? I. Ant remember.

It can be done and yes it will be hard. No less hard than convincing Price, Vas, McD and Gourde to all waive their NMCs for eachother.

Worst comes to worst they'll have to sacrifice some picks and prospects to entice some teams to take on players.

Once again hard but not impossible.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.
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Im confused, are you answering the problem yourself here?

Yes they have to trade some of those guys, possibly buyout a guy like Gourde and make sure the RFA take bridge deals.

Thats without moving a guy like Johnson, Palat, mCDonagh, Gourde if possible, etc etc.

Plus some of those guys dont have full NMCs i dont think. Only modified NTC. Palat maybe? I. Ant remember.

It can be done and yes it will be hard. No less hard than convincing Price, Vas, McD and Gourde to all waive their NMCs for eachother.

Worst comes to worst they'll have to sacrifice some picks and prospects to entice some teams to take on players.

Once again hard but not impossible.


No, I'm just pointing out that it's almost impossible to keep even 2 of their 3 RFAs unless someone (or two) waives their NTC or they trade Vasilevsky.
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 9:01 p.m.
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No, I'm just pointing out that it's almost impossible to keep even 2 of their 3 RFAs unless someone (or two) waives their NTC or they trade Vasilevsky.


Honestly, i think realitsically, theyll have to move on from at least one young gun. Itll suck but thats the price good teams face in the salary cap era. Given they already have Point and Stamkos that can play center, i think moving one of Cirelli or Point may be the easiest route.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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Honestly, i think realitsically, theyll have to move on from at least one young gun. Itll suck but thats the price good teams face in the salary cap era. Given they already have Point and Stamkos that can play center, i think moving one of Cirelli or Point may be the easiest route.


What kind of return do you think they could get for Point?
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:28 p.m.
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What kind of return do you think they could get for Point?


No clue. I think TB will push for a low cap return so it may be high on picks and prospects. Your guess is as good as mine. The only way they move him is if theyve exchusted all other options and need to clear another sizable amount of cap. There will be teams lining up with killer offera for sure. Even if TB is desperate, the market will easily negate that point of weakness.
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