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Marner To Vancouver

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Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 1, 2020
Published: Jul. 1, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
1$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$10,000,000
4$8,500,000
3$2,750,000
1$900,000
4$2,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$3,850,000
1$2,750,000
3$6,750,000
1$5,750,000
1$4,250,000
2$1,500,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$1,500,000
1$800,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Marner, Mitchell ($1,643,000 retained)
TOR
  1. Boeser, Brock
  2. Woo, Jett
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (VAN)
2.
VAN
    Seattle Expansion Draft
    3.
    VAN
      Future Considerations
      WSH
      1. Beagle, Jay ($1,000,000 retained)
      4.
      VAN
        Future Considerations
        5.
        VAN
        1. 2022 2nd round pick (CAR)
        6.
        VAN
        1. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
        PIT
        1. Virtanen, Jake [RFA Rights]
        Retained Salary Transactions
        Recapture Fees
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2020
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        2021
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        2022
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        22$83,000,000$80,722,326$648,780$232,500$2,277,674

        Roster

        Left WingCentreRight Wing
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        $5,250,000$5,250,000
        C, LW, RW
        UFA - 2
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        $10,000,000$10,000,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $9,260,000$9,260,000
        RW
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $4,250,000$4,250,000
        LW
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $4,125,000$4,125,000
        C
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $5,750,000$5,750,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
        LW, RW
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $2,750,000$2,750,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $925,000$925,000
        RW, LW
        RFA - 3
        $900,000$900,000
        LW
        UFA - 1
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 1
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        $3,850,000$3,850,000
        RD
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $6,750,000$6,750,000
        G
        UFA - 5
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $8,500,000$8,500,000
        LD
        UFA - 6
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $2,750,000$2,750,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $811,667$811,667 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
        G
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $2,750,000$2,750,000
        LD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $900,000$900,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $925,000$925,000
        LD
        RFA
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        $900,000$900,000
        RW
        UFA
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $3,500,000$3,500,000
        LW, RW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        $800,000$800,000
        RD
        UFA - 2

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        Jul. 2, 2020 at 12:32 a.m.
        #26
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        Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
        You have to understand that in a flat cap world, teams are not gonna offer much to take on that contract. The Leafs do not have any options this offseason if they want to move Mitch, so they’re going to have to settle for a return like this.


        Terrible take cause guess what, they don't have to move him. They don't have to settle for any return for a 90+ point winger whos overpaid by 1-2 million. Whos to say a team with cap space to afford the cap hit wouldn't offer fair value? Whatever the case, Marners staying a Leaf and you stay making awful ACGMs
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 12:36 a.m.
        #27
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        Quoting: sedin33
        Boesser at $6M. I think Marner’s a better player, it’s tough to build a cup winning roster with Marner at $9M without a lot of ELCs


        When Kane signed his 10.5M deal, did you still want him on your team? Ofcourse you did, people want to just act like him being overpaid by 1-2M is the biggest deal when hes 22 with essentially 2 90+ point seasons, sounds like an awful player I guess
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 1:41 a.m.
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        Quoting: brocklesnar
        VAN is not moving Virtanen either.


        meh you're the only person I see saying this. They'd definitely take offers and consider a move if it's right. Would take an overpay as he is finally starting to turn into somewhat of the player he was supposed to be.
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        Jul. 2, 2020 at 1:42 a.m.
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        Overall it's just to unrealistic to be worth considering... team looks good on paper but it would never happen
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 8:42 a.m.
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        Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
        When Kane signed his 10.5M deal, did you still want him on your team? Ofcourse you did, people want to just act like him being overpaid by 1-2M is the biggest deal when hes 22 with essentially 2 90+ point seasons, sounds like an awful player I guess


        More of a reflection of the Canucks cap situation than Just Marner. It’s possible they could sign Taffoli with Boesser still on the team. No chance if they have Marner.
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
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        Quoting: TheAlien
        For that price, I would think Vancouver would do it the only thing that could hinder the trade is cap space. I also don't think you'd be able to move Myers and Roussel without adding picks. I'd also probably keep Virtanen over Pearson and have Macewen in the lineup instead of Maroon or Clifford


        Quoting: TheAlien
        For that price, I would think Vancouver would do it the only thing that could hinder the trade is cap space. I also don't think you'd be able to move Myers and Roussel without adding picks. I'd also probably keep Virtanen over Pearson and have Macewen in the lineup instead of Maroon or Clifford


        Thanks for letting me know your thoughts.
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.
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        Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
        Terrible take cause guess what, they don't have to move him. They don't have to settle for any return for a 90+ point winger whos overpaid by 1-2 million. Whos to say a team with cap space to afford the cap hit wouldn't offer fair value? Whatever the case, Marners staying a Leaf and you stay making awful ACGMs


        Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
        Terrible take cause guess what, they don't have to move him. They don't have to settle for any return for a 90+ point winger whos overpaid by 1-2 million. Whos to say a team with cap space to afford the cap hit wouldn't offer fair value? Whatever the case, Marners staying a Leaf and you stay making awful ACGMs


        I’m not saying that the Leafs should trade him, I just think it’s the most likely scenario with their cap situation & with all the underlying circumstances such as his contract & no cap increase, they’re not going to get a return as good as they like.
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 4:41 p.m.
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        Quoting: sedin33
        Boesser at $6M. I think Marner’s a better player, it’s tough to build a cup winning roster with Marner at $9M without a lot of ELCs


        Quoting: Saskleaf
        Sure, but Marners value way more than Boesers.


        Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
        Interesting take here. I’m not so sure, I’m gonna need some help on this one.

        Who’d you guys rather have between Marner at 9 million & Boeser at 6?

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        If you think Marner has more value at 10.9 than Boeser has at 5.8, you're mistaken. With a flat cap for years to come, money is important. Its not an argument that Marner is not a better player, but in the context of money and cap, the value of a good player on a good contract is better than a great player on a somewhat loaded contract
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 4:53 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jambo
        If you think Marner has more value at 10.9 than Boeser has at 5.8, you're mistaken. With a flat cap for years to come, money is important. Its not an argument that Marner is not a better player, but in the context of money and cap, the value of a good player on a good contract is better than a great player on a somewhat loaded contract


        It also depends on the teams current cap position. A team like Toronto that’s very close to the ceiling May value bosser over marner because of the contract, but a team with lots of cap room like Ottawa for example would rather have the better player and could afford it
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
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        Quoting: mhockey91
        It also depends on the teams current cap position. A team like Toronto that’s very close to the ceiling May value bosser over marner because of the contract, but a team with lots of cap room like Ottawa for example would rather have the better player and could afford it


        also true. but I think if were talking Canucks they prefer the value contract too. Obviously if you could plop one of them onto Ottawa you'd pick Marner, he's just too dynamic and skilled. But in terms of need and being pretty crunched for cap, VAN would probably not do this
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        Jul. 2, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jambo
        also true. but I think if were talking Canucks they prefer the value contract too. Obviously if you could plop one of them onto Ottawa you'd pick Marner, he's just too dynamic and skilled. But in terms of need and being pretty crunched for cap, VAN would probably not do this


        Probably unless Vancouver could somehow get rid of their albatross contracts
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        Jul. 2, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.
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        Quoting: mhockey91
        Probably unless Vancouver could somehow get rid of their albatross contracts


        exactly...u mentioned Ottawatears of joy
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jambo
        exactly...u mentioned Ottawatears of joy


        Yeah I just used them as a random example, I agree in Vancouver’s position they’d probably rather have Boeser because they have a lot of bad contracts and couldn’t really afford marner
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jambo
        If you think Marner has more value at 10.9 than Boeser has at 5.8, you're mistaken. With a flat cap for years to come, money is important. Its not an argument that Marner is not a better player, but in the context of money and cap, the value of a good player on a good contract is better than a great player on a somewhat loaded contract


        He retained so it was 9 mil Marner, in which case, Marner's better enough that he's worth more despite being more expensive. Even 11 mil Marner is worth a little more than 6 mil Boeser, but they are somewhat close (with no retention on Marner).
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.
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        Quoting: mhockey91
        Yeah I just used them as a random example, I agree in Vancouver’s position they’d probably rather have Boeser because they have a lot of bad contracts and couldn’t really afford marner


        I agree with that. Both teams want the players they have.
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        Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:10 p.m.
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        Quoting: Saskleaf
        He retained so it was 9 mil Marner, in which case, Marner's better enough that he's worth more despite being more expensive. Even 11 mil Marner is worth a little more than 6 mil Boeser, but they are somewhat close (with no retention on Marner).


        thats definitely a fair point. at the end of the day IMO, if I'm Benning, I decline this deal and If I'm Dubas, I take it
        Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:59 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jambo
        thats definitely a fair point. at the end of the day IMO, if I'm Benning, I decline this deal and If I'm Dubas, I take it


        Na, If I’m Dubas I pass. There’s no point in trading Marner for a forward.
        Jul. 3, 2020 at 12:37 p.m.
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        Quoting: Saskleaf
        Na, If I’m Dubas I pass. There’s no point in trading Marner for a forward.


        Well, agree to disagree, I think theres plenty of scenarios where that could be plausible
         
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