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If the Sabres truly wanted to go for it

Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 2, 2020
Published: Jul. 2, 2020
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Open to genuine suggestions on Hertl trade if people don't think it's fair. Tried to take into account the term left on deal (not a lot), coupled with the second major knee injury in last few years. Still, I knew his worth so I traded a top 10 first rounder, a center prospect and a quality mid-tier stay at home D man to balence out the Sharks skilled D
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
1$850,000
2$950,000
4$4,250,000
4$4,500,000
5$6,500,000
1$950,000
3$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
3$4,500,000
5$6,000,000
3$2,000,000
5$5,000,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. 2020 4th round pick (LAK)
  2. 2021 5th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Johansson, Marcus ($1,000,000 retained)
2.
BUF
  1. McLeod, Michael
  2. 2020 1st round pick (VAN)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. 2022 6th round pick (BUF)
3.
SJS
  1. McCabe, Jake
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
4.
BUF
  1. 2020 7th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Hutton, Carter ($1,000,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,000,000$83,387,500$1,487,500$4,337,500-$1,387,500

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
C
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$889,166$889,166
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$850,000$850,000
RW, C
UFA - 2

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Jul. 2, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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NJ laughs no one's giving up a 1st for Ristolainen
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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Also holy overpay on Tanev he should get 4,75 mil max for 4 years max
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:00 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
NJ laughs no one's giving up a 1st for Ristolainen


We'll see about that... NJ has 3 first rounders and is in dire need of a player like Risto in their D core. I took the lowest of the 1sts. Don't think it''s that bad of an offer....
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:01 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Also holy overpay on Tanev he should get 4,75 mil max for 4 years max


Just went off what he was making before...
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:01 a.m.
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Mittelstadt and a first is good enough for Hertl unless he's signing an extension. I'd rather give Borgan a shot than give Tanev that contract
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.
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Huge overpay for Hertl.
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners
We'll see about that... NJ has 3 first rounders and is in dire need of a player like Risto in their D core. I took the lowest of the 1sts. Don't think it''s that bad of an offer....


Except they already have a d-man who's a liability in his own zone in Will Butcher, they literally have 0 need for Risto
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.
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hard pass from NJ
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
Huge overpay for Hertl.


Quoting: Elevatorboy
Huge overpay for Hertl.


It's tough to tell... I think something's fair then the trolls come out with lunacy accusations... Plus it was an excuse to get rid of McCabe who I'm not fan of but would do well out west.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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hard pass from NJ


We'll see about that
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Except they already have a d-man who's a liability in his own zone in Will Butcher, they literally have 0 need for Risto


Butcher, Mueller and Subban lol
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:04 a.m.
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Butcher, Mueller and Subban lol


Oh right I forgot the useless pylon that is PK

Also Mueller looked fine when paired with PK...
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:04 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
NJ laughs no one's giving up a 1st for Ristolainen

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Except they already have a d-man who's a liability in his own zone in Will Butcher, they literally have 0 need for Risto


Good, Sabres keep him. Risto is a lot better than this site gives him credit for. Im not saying he's the best, but the level of opinion on here has spiraled out of control, another case of the illusory truth effect in regards to another Sabre
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:05 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Oh right I forgot the useless pylon that is PK

Also Mueller looked fine when paired with PK...


yeah he wasn't as bad as PK or Butch but I wouldn't call him good defensively, like you said we have enough liability's back there lol
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:07 a.m.
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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners
It's tough to tell... I think something's fair then the trolls come out with lunacy accusations... Plus it was an excuse to get rid of McCabe who I'm not fan of but would do well out west.


We dont need excuse to get rid McCabe. I dont understand how you could not be a fan of him, other than you look at his points and base your decision on that. You arent a contender without Dmen like McCabe
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:10 a.m.
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We dont need excuse to get rid McCabe. I dont understand how you could not be a fan of him, other than you look at his points and base your decision on that. You arent a contender without Dmen like McCabe


It's not his points... I just think we need to cleans ourselves of a lot of the players that weren't working here... Bring in fresh faces... He also had some aggravating penalties and stupid hockey sense moments last year.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:11 a.m.
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We dont need excuse to get rid McCabe. I dont understand how you could not be a fan of him, other than you look at his points and base your decision on that. You arent a contender without Dmen like McCabe


The roster I presented is 10X better than what they iced last year
Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.
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I think an underrated part what people don't realize is that defense. you have one dman who is defensively responsible and then the next 5 are puck moving dmen who were pretty sloppy defensively. Buffalo needs more lockdown, defensive first defenseman. having 5 puck moving dmen who struggle defensively isn't going to work. look how disastrous they were this past season defensively. Maybe sign a couple guys who are defensive first and have good experience. that would definitely be a start
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners
The roster I presented is 10X better than what they iced last year


Possibly. RW is very weak. Fast is a career 3rd liner, Grandlund is not known for his production (aside from 2 outlier years of which he has completely regressed), and Thompson is a complete role of the dice. Ruotsalainen is not a 4th liner and will be lost in that role. Tanev again, may as well bring in Borgen or just keep Montour on his natural side and keep McCabe, even if you want to chance Bryson on the 2nd pair, as he is not a shut down defender, and keep McCabe in that role (McCabe and Borgen would be fantastic). The Sabres D this year was stealthily top 12 in the league, some metrics top 5. Goaltenders are vastly improved which already makes the team better, which is really all they needed this year to be in the 24 team format. Though the cap doesnt look good. Sabres are getting hit with a penalty because of bonuses, which you're putting them right back in that danger zone and havent factored in the penalty yet. Plus Reinhart probably gets more, whether or not we think he deserves it.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:18 a.m.
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This is a Hertl trade that I would actually be happy about
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Mittelstadt and a first is good enough for Hertl unless he's signing an extension. I'd rather give Borgan a shot than give Tanev that contract


Quoting: Elevatorboy
Huge overpay for Hertl.


Quoting: JumboJoe
This is a Hertl trade that I would actually be happy about


This is what it would take to pry Hertl from the sharks.
Is he worth that haul or not is irrelevant sharks want to build around him just like you guys wana build around eichel. To get something the other team doesn’t want to give up you have to overpay it’s that simple.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
NJ laughs no one's giving up a 1st for Ristolainen


Thank you kind shrew
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
This is what it would take to pry Hertl from the sharks.
Is he worth that haul or not is irrelevant sharks want to build around him just like you guys wana build around eichel. To get something the other team doesn’t want to give up you have to overpay it’s that simple.


Hertl is 27 and SJ has no assets, theyre kinda just hoping the team they have improves. You can try to build around him, he probably walks though
Jul. 2, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Mittelstadt and a first is good enough for Hertl unless he's signing an extension. I'd rather give Borgan a shot than give Tanev that contract


No, it isnt.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 12:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Hertl is 27 and SJ has no assets, theyre kinda just hoping the team they have improves. You can try to build around him, he probably walks though


Lol no he doesn’t walk he loves playing there he loves the sharks and him and his wife are just starting their family here!
 
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