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Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 2, 2020
Published: Jul. 2, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
2$700,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
2$2,750,000
2$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
2$1,500,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2020 4th round pick (MIN)
2.
CHI
  1. Lafferty, Sam [RFA Rights]
  2. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
3.
PIT
  1. 2020 5th round pick (FLA)
MTL
    Riikola Rights
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$76,763,508$0$1,062,500$4,736,492

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
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    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,025,175$4,025,175
    LD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $700,000$700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
    #1
    Kyle from Chicago
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    Saad is worth more than Murray, pass.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    Saad is worth more than Murray, pass.


    10 team NTC so not sure on that, Lafferty is also worth a 3/4 round pick
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:26 p.m.
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    Montreal does not need a spare part LD, easy no.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:41 p.m.
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    Kyle from Chicago
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    Quoting: Marino4Norris
    10 team NTC so not sure on that, Lafferty is also worth a 3/4 round pick


    We can get a better Saad deal, and we likely have Crawford next season, so no need for Murray.
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    Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    We can get a better Saad deal, and we likely have Crawford next season, so no need for Murray.


    Genuinely wondering what the return is expected to be from Chicago fans... I value him and Murray at around a late 1st or early 2nd +. Do you really think it's that far off? He's a 40 point guy nowadays and the NTC is not that lenient if he doesn't get moved before it starts. Look at the Hall return a year removed from a Hart trophy as a UFA
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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    If Saad was at 50% retained there might be a start to a conversation there. Saad straight, no way, non starter.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.
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    Kyle from Chicago
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    Quoting: Marino4Norris
    Genuinely wondering what the return is expected to be from Chicago fans... I value him and Murray at around a late 1st or early 2nd +. Do you really think it's that far off? He's a 40 point guy nowadays and the NTC is not that lenient if he doesn't get moved before it starts. Look at the Hall return a year removed from a Hart trophy as a UFA


    Saad gets back a first and a prospect at the deadline, probably more with retention/an extension in place.


    Murray had a bad year, and any interested party could offer sheet him for the max compensation at a 2nd and be golden. Pens probably can't match, especially with Jarry also needing a new contract.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:51 p.m.
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    Kyle from Chicago
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    Quoting: Yojimbo
    If Saad was at 50% retained there might be a start to a conversation there. Saad straight, no way, non starter.


    Same way Chicago feels, obviously not with retention, about Murray.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    Saad gets back a first and a prospect at the deadline, probably more with retention/an extension in place.


    Murray had a bad year, and any interested party could offer sheet him for the max compensation at a 2nd and be golden. Pens probably can't match, especially with Jarry also needing a new contract.


    Murray had a tough start this year (with a very strong last month) but Saad has had 3 tough years, hasn't hit 50 points since 2017. With max retention I think he gets a first straight up at the deadline. This roster shows we could fit Murray pretty easily up to ~5.5M, they won't let him go for a 4M offer sheet. Just seems like a mutually beneficial trade given that CHI doesn't have much of a future goalie plan
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    Jul. 2, 2020 at 7:04 p.m.
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    Kyle from Chicago
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    Quoting: Marino4Norris
    Murray had a tough start this year (with a very strong last month) but Saad has had 3 tough years, hasn't hit 50 points since 2017. With max retention I think he gets a first straight up at the deadline. This roster shows we could fit Murray pretty easily up to ~5.5M, they won't let him go for a 4M offer sheet. Just seems like a mutually beneficial trade given that CHI doesn't have much of a future goalie plan

    Saad is a two way player, and he was awesome this year for us. If you only value a player by points, Saad isn't your guy and wouldn't be that guy in PIT. I would seriously doubt PIT pays both if their starters, but if that's the case, good for you guys. Well gladly keep Saad, sell him if we have to, keep Crawford and invest in a goalie during the draft.
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    Jul. 2, 2020 at 7:34 p.m.
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    Habs counter offer: Alzner and a 7th for a 6th rounder
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 7:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: BorisBagel66
    Habs counter offer: Alzner and a 7th for a 6th rounder


    lol is this a joke
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 7:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    Saad is a two way player, and he was awesome this year for us. If you only value a player by points, Saad isn't your guy and wouldn't be that guy in PIT. I would seriously doubt PIT pays both if their starters, but if that's the case, good for you guys. Well gladly keep Saad, sell him if we have to, keep Crawford and invest in a goalie during the draft.


    Saad is a 40-50 point player now. he's not netting you a starting goalie.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 7:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    Saad is a two way player, and he was awesome this year for us. If you only value a player by points, Saad isn't your guy and wouldn't be that guy in PIT. I would seriously doubt PIT pays both if their starters, but if that's the case, good for you guys. Well gladly keep Saad, sell him if we have to, keep Crawford and invest in a goalie during the draft.


    Crawford is 35, who plays goalie until the one you draft is ready?
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 8:10 p.m.
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    Kyle from Chicago
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    Quoting: Marino4Norris
    Crawford is 35, who plays goalie until the one you draft is ready?


    Crawford, then Delia, then a free agent if needed.

    Quoting: mhockey91
    Saad is a 40-50 point player now. he's not netting you a starting goalie.


    Your number 1B (who needs to get paid and had a bad year) isn't netting you Saad, a 40-50 point top 6 two way winger.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 8:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    Crawford, then Delia, then a free agent if needed.



    Your number 1B (who needs to get paid and had a bad year) isn't netting you Saad, a 40-50 point top 6 two way winger.


    Murray is our #1A. And yes he had a bad year, but he’s still worth way more than saad.

    Players like saad come a dime a dozen, but Murray’s upside is too high. Pens would regret that trade for a decade.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 8:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    Murray is our #1A. And yes he had a bad year, but he’s still worth way more than saad.

    Players like saad come a dime a dozen, but Murray’s upside is too high. Pens would regret that trade for a decade.


    "Matt murray is worth way more than saad" hahaha that's hilarious. Can't see any team giving more than a 2nd rounder for Murray. Saad would net atleast a 1st rounder
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    Murray is our #1A. And yes he had a bad year, but he’s still worth way more than saad.

    Players like saad come a dime a dozen, but Murray’s upside is too high. Pens would regret that trade for a decade.


    Go ahead and keep him, our 35 year old Crawford is better than Murray anyhow.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    Go ahead and keep him, our 35 year old Crawford is better than Murray anyhow.


    He had a better season than him, sure, but he’s not a better goalie, especially from here on out
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 9:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    He had a better season than him, sure, but he’s not a better goalie, especially from here on out


    He's better until he isn't, and right now Murray isn't. Try again next season.
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 9:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    Murray is our #1A. And yes he had a bad year, but he’s still worth way more than saad.

    Players like saad come a dime a dozen, but Murray’s upside is too high. Pens would regret that trade for a decade.


    Trade us Jarry instead then. I would prefer him over Murray 100%. Its been said 1000 times on this site, the hawks don't want murray
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.
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    Hawks don't want murray, and the pens don't have the pieces we want to get a saad deal done. Pens fans can stop posting these ACGM's. Hawks will wait till the TDL and asses if we are in contention for the playoffs or not. If not we move him for a 1st and a prospect easily. If we are we keep him for the playoffs and look to extend him this summer
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 9:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    He's better until he isn't, and right now Murray isn't. Try again next season.


    he was better last season when Murray posted a .919 and Crawford had a .908
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 9:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    he was better last season when Murray posted a .919 and Crawford had a .908


    Ah yes, because the Blackhawks and the Penguins were both really good team's, and both goaltenders faced similar enough circumstances to make that judgment based on stats from a season ago. cheers
    Jul. 2, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    Ah yes, because the Blackhawks and the Penguins were both really good team's, and both goaltenders faced similar enough circumstances to make that judgment based on stats from a season ago. cheers


    You think what you want, but a healthy Murray playing his game is way better than Crawford now. Pens won’t sell low on him unless he absolutely blows the series against MTL
     
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