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Created by: csick
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 4, 2020
Published: Jul. 4, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,850,000
2$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
4$3,500,000
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
  2. Marner, Mitchell
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
Anywhere really
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$78,710,116$0$400,000$2,789,884
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$7,150,000$7,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:30 p.m.
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Haha Toronto accepts
Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Timmah007
Haha Toronto accepts


Honestly if a team offers a variation of this for Marner, they should 100% take it. A young future RHD and a Marner replacement in the top 6 who’s locked long term to a good deal
Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:31 p.m.
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No thanks.

The organization will figure things out. No-one expected a flat cap for multiple seasons but, they have the brainpower in place to adjust accordingly.

What you have here isn't good for the Leafs or the direction they have chosen and I think you are off on signing numbers anyways.
Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Trevorchef
No thanks.

The organization will figure things out. No-one expected a flat cap for multiple seasons but, they have the brainpower in place to adjust accordingly.

What you have here isn't good for the Leafs or the direction they have chosen and I think you are off on signing numbers anyways.


That’s exactly what the Leafs should be pursuing. In 2 years, this team will be ridiculous and won’t be super tight on cap. Maybe instead of Demelo sign a guy for 2 years at 4-4.5 mill and you’ll be able to afford Rielly, Andersen
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Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Timmah007
Haha Toronto accepts


No chance they accept that. None.
Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:35 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
That’s exactly what the Leafs should be pursuing. In 2 years, this team will be ridiculous and won’t be super tight on cap. Maybe instead of Demelo sign a guy for 2 years at 4-4.5 mill and you’ll be able to afford Rielly, Andersen


Nope. They have chosen their path.

This isn't it.

Tavares, Matthews, Marner and Nylander all stay. Book it.

The changes will be from the middle tier of forwards. Book that too.

They will run with what they have for this year and next with some subtractions for cap reasons from the forward group. They will re-sign their RFA's accordingly.

This "big trade" garbage is a myth that will only exist on sites like this one.

The same will be true for most of the other teams as well. No-one will be taking on massive contracts or huge SB's. Book that too.
Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Nope. They have chosen their path.

This isn't it.

Tavares, Matthews, Marner and Nylander all stay. Book it.

The changes will be from the middle tier of forwards. Book that too.

They will run with what they have for this year and next with some subtractions for cap reasons from the forward group. They will re-sign their RFA's accordingly.

This "big trade" garbage is a myth that will only exist on sites like this one.

The same will be true for most of the other teams as well. No-one will be taking on massive contracts or huge SB's. Book that too.


You’re never going to win with 4 forwards taking more than half the cap
Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:54 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
You’re never going to win with 4 forwards taking more than half the cap


Like I said... This is the path that they have chosen and... who says they can't? You? Pfft. What the **** do you know?

When all of those contracts expire, get back to me. Until then... This is they way it is.

No disrespect here, just telling it the way that it is.
Jul. 4, 2020 at 7:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Like I said... This is the path that they have chosen and... who says they can't? You? Pfft. What the **** do you know?

When all of those contracts expire, get back to me. Until then... This is they way it is.

No disrespect here, just telling it the way that it is.



And that’s precisely the issue with the Leafs, they’re so stubborn with their big four it isn’t normal that 4 forwards take 38 ish millions of cap space, unless their names are Crosby, McDavid, MacKinnon and Matthews
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Jul. 4, 2020 at 7:09 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
And that’s precisely the issue with the Leafs, they’re so stubborn with their big four it isn’t normal that 4 forwards take 38 ish millions of cap space, unless their names are Crosby, McDavid, MacKinnon and Matthews


Dude... It is what it is.

I have never said that I support this approach. It just happens to be the reality.

I have accepted that.

I could be stubbornness. Or... it could be a laser focused belief in something that no-one else sees.

I just don't know.
Jul. 4, 2020 at 9:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Dude... It is what it is.

I have never said that I support this approach. It just happens to be the reality.

I have accepted that.

I could be stubbornness. Or... it could be a laser focused belief in something that no-one else sees.

I just don't know.


You're right to say that the Leafs will stick to the plan until the end, and never trade the top 4.

But I think the OP's argument makes a lot of sense.
Jul. 4, 2020 at 9:41 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
That’s exactly what the Leafs should be pursuing. In 2 years, this team will be ridiculous and won’t be super tight on cap. Maybe instead of Demelo sign a guy for 2 years at 4-4.5 mill and you’ll be able to afford Rielly, Andersen


The reasoning is sound, but I wouldn't go with the exact players you suggested, just because I don't know Soderstrom enough to say. If it were Seider instead, i.e. someone we are confident will be in the NHL fast and will be able to fill the hole on the right side of the defense, then the offer would be tempting.
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Jul. 4, 2020 at 10:38 p.m.
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Honestly if a team offers a variation of this for Marner, they should 100% take it. A young future RHD and a Marner replacement in the top 6 who’s locked long term to a good deal


Don't know why you think Keller is a good deal at 7.125m. Makes Marner deal look fantastic.
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