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Hawks

Created by: DavidAyers
Initial Creation Date: Jul 5, 2020
Published: Jul 5 at 2:52
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Domi, Max2$5,000,000
Mete, Victor2$3,000,000
Trades
MTL
    CHI
    1. Alzner, Karl
    Additional Details:
    Cbo
    MTL
    1. Dach, Kirby
    2. Toews, Jonathan
    CHI
    1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
    2. Caufield, Cole [Reserve List]
    3. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
    4. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
    5. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
    6. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
    MTL
    1. 2020 2nd round pick (COL)
    SJS
    1. Lehkonen, Artturi
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    STL
    COL
    MTL
    WSH
    MTL
    ANA
    WPG
    MTL
    FLA
    MTL
    CHI
    OTT
    2021
    MTL
    MTL
    CHI
    MTL
    STL
    VGK
    MTL
    OTT
    PHI
    MTL
    2022
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$78,112,142$0$4,140,000$3,387,858
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MTL
    Drouin, Jonathan
    $5,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Toews, Jonathan
    $10,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    $3,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Tatar, Tomas
    $4,800,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Dach, Kirby
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Suzuki, Nick
    $863,333
    C, RW
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Domi, Max
    $5,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    $3,083,333
    C
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Armia, Joel
    $2,600,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Byron, Paul
    $3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Poehling, Ryan
    $925,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Weal, Jordan
    $1,400,000
    C, RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MTL
    Chiarot, Ben
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Weber, Shea
    $7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Price, Carey
    $10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Romanov, Alexander
    $894,167
    LD
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    $5,500,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Demchenko, Vasili
    $792,500
    G
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Mete, Victor
    $3,000,000
    LD
    RFA
    MTL
    Fleury, Cale
    $771,666
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    MTL
    Kulak, Brett
    $1,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Belzile, Alex
    $700,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1

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    Jul 5 at 2:55
    #1
    Good Stick Lehky
    Joined: Jun 2017
    Posts: 5,277
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    Get out.
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    Jul 5 at 2:56
    #2
    Joined: Apr 2019
    Posts: 929
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    Don't think any team would trade their 2 best centers in the same offseason let alone the same deal. Not saying the value isn't there, it's just team suicide to trade you best 2 centers not to mention captain.
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    Jul 5 at 2:56
    #3
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 1,914
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    Hawks accept i guess. I don't want to trade dach or toews but its hard not to with that package. Trade really doesn't make sense for the canadiens though lol
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    Jul 5 at 2:59
    #4
    Romanov Our Savior
    Joined: Feb 2019
    Posts: 3,279
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    Keep trolling
    Jul 5 at 3:04
    #5
    Subbanator
    Joined: Jul 2017
    Posts: 3,410
    Likes: 1,161
    Kk>dach
    Caufield future > Toews's future
    Jul 5 at 3:06
    #6
    Nylander Apologist
    Joined: Feb 2018
    Posts: 4,432
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    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    Kk>dach
    Caufield future > Toews's future


    No,

    Probably, but also not a center so?
    ChiHawk liked this.
    Jul 5 at 3:21
    #7
    Go Hawks
    Joined: Jun 2017
    Posts: 1,430
    Likes: 599
    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    Kk>dach
    Caufield future > Toews's future


    Lmaooooooo Dach >>> KK
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    Jul 5 at 3:22
    #8
    Subbanator
    Joined: Jul 2017
    Posts: 3,410
    Likes: 1,161
    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    No,

    Probably, but also not a center so?


    Who had the better 18 year old season? Dach will be good,so will KK just a matter of preference

    We dont need centers, we do need RW
    Jul 5 at 3:22
    #9
    Subbanator
    Joined: Jul 2017
    Posts: 3,410
    Likes: 1,161
    Quoting: Petrock83
    Lmaooooooo Dach >>> KK


    Who had the better 18 year old season?
    Jul 5 at 3:23
    #10
    Joined: Apr 2017
    Posts: 9,524
    Likes: 2,654
    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    Kk>dach
    Caufield future > Toews's future


    LMAO KK better then Dach? That is hysterical
    Jul 5 at 3:23
    #11
    Joined: Apr 2017
    Posts: 9,524
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    Edited Jul 5 at 3:31
    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    Who had the better 18 year old season?


    How are you judging this....soley on points?

    Let me help clear the picture..based on the 79 games KK played his first season and prorating Dach's 64 games to 79 games to match KK's games played

    KK = 34 points, Dach = 29 points (prorated)
    KK = 62% offensive zone starts, Dach = 53% offensive zone starts
    KK = 32 takeaways/50 giveaways, Dach = 47 takeaways/20 giveaways (prorated)

    I'll take Dach and it's not even a close debate.
    Jul 5 at 3:28
    #12
    Joined: Jun 2020
    Posts: 815
    Likes: 269
    Sharks accept.
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    Jul 5 at 3:31
    #13
    Subbanator
    Joined: Jul 2017
    Posts: 3,410
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    How are you judging this....soley on points?


    You can judge it anyway you want. Both are ridiculously young players who had good rookie seasons, thinking one is 'hysterically ' better then another at this point is where you went wrong
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    Jul 5 at 3:32
    #14
    Joined: Apr 2017
    Posts: 9,524
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    Edited Jul 5 at 3:46
    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    You can judge it anyway you want. Both are ridiculously young players who had good rookie seasons, thinking one is 'hysterically ' better then another at this point is where you went wrong



    Let me help clear the picture..based on the 79 games KK played his first season and prorating Dach's 64 games to 79 games to match KK's games played

    KK = 34 points, Dach = 29 points (prorated)
    KK = 62% offensive zone starts, Dach = 53% offensive zone starts
    KK = 32 takeaways/50 giveaways, Dach = 47 takeaways/20 giveaways (prorated)

    I'll take Dach and it's not even a close debate. He's way better defensively and much stronger on the puck. If KK was drafted last year, he wouldn't have gone before Dach or Turcotte and maybe in the mix of Zegras and Cozens but likely after those two also. KK was drafted in a very weak year for centers. I'm not saying he won't be good...he will be, but Dach, Turcotte, Zegras and Cozens are likely going go be better IMO.
    Jul 5 at 3:37
    #15
    Boris Bagel
    Joined: Feb 2017
    Posts: 219
    Likes: 33
    Habs decline
    Jul 5 at 4:29
    #16
    Joined: Aug 2019
    Posts: 4,554
    Likes: 1,369
    Sharks decline
    Jul 6 at 5:20
    #17
    Fun must be always
    Joined: Jan 2020
    Posts: 1,005
    Likes: 288
    SJ accepts
    Jul 6 at 1:16
    #18
    Subbanator
    Joined: Jul 2017
    Posts: 3,410
    Likes: 1,161
    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Let me help clear the picture..based on the 79 games KK played his first season and prorating Dach's 64 games to 79 games to match KK's games played

    KK = 34 points, Dach = 29 points (prorated)
    KK = 62% offensive zone starts, Dach = 53% offensive zone starts
    KK = 32 takeaways/50 giveaways, Dach = 47 takeaways/20 giveaways (prorated)

    I'll take Dach and it's not even a close debate. He's way better defensively and much stronger on the puck. If KK was drafted last year, he wouldn't have gone before Dach or Turcotte and maybe in the mix of Zegras and Cozens but likely after those two also. KK was drafted in a very weak year for centers. I'm not saying he won't be good...he will be, but Dach, Turcotte, Zegras and Cozens are likely going go be better IMO.


    Fair enough. I started this convo at work and dont have the proper time to actually look deeper into it but you've made me want to review some Hawks games and see for myself
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