Tampa definitely declines that

It's definitely an overpayment, but they have limited options for where he can be traded and limited teams willing/able to take him. They also get a Pulj who has big upside and will be cheap to sign. I think TBL may be forced to make some lopsided trades to stay under the cap

Athanasiou's going to need a raise not just a qualifying offer to get him to sign. He was incredible difficult to sign in Detroit (a big part of why he was traded) as he held out in 2017 (missing training camp plus the first 10 games of the season) and threatened to play in the KHL---he flew to Switzerland and began skating with HC Lugano right before a deal was reached. The Wings offered 2 years at 1.9 per year, but instead he agreed to 1 year at 1.387 so he would gain arbitration rights the following year which lead to his 2 years contract at 3M per in July 2018. He then became a 30 goal scorer in '18-'19 and then this year had a terrible season and was traded.

He's not going to sign a 1 year qualifying offer. He'll point to the 30 goal season, he's already been a holdout, and he has left North America to play hockey once already.

I don't see how we can jurtify asking for more after this season. Even with arbitration I bet it would be around 3M especially during a flat cap and his regression this season. He can try to hold out but he isn't going to get more than 3M in Europe right now

He's already held out once and flew to Europe with the intention of playing in the KHL. He'll point to the 30 goal season which he hit after that 2yr x 3M contract was signed (and even with the regression this past year--a young 30 goal scorer with speed to spare is worth a premium). He won't go to arbitration--he'll hold out. If the team takes him they won't be able to sign Mike Smith or Mike Green until after the hearing because he could get a significant raise. Flat cap doesn't mean flat salaries in arbitration for players coming off bridge deals.

He can hold out and get paid less in Europe then. He doesn't have much leverage to ask for more after a down year during a flat cap, and I doubt anybody is going to offersheet him for more than 3M. I don't think Green gets resigned anyway (and if he does he won't make very much) with Bouchard likely making the jump to the NHL

Yep killorn is one of those players that will be easy to move. Good at both ends and could get a 2nd and 3rd coming back

A lot of factors come into play as to why AA did that. I am not familiar with the story but he’s on a different environment now, has a chance to play 1st line minutes which he never had the chance in Detroit, and a team having 2 best centres competing for a cup in the future.

Him having a historically bad season and a good season prior balances it out. Plain and simple, and it doesn’t warrant a raise.

Yup cap would work to get a good player. Honestly I can see Holland going after a player from Tampa, at half price and Tampa would do it because they would have to sign 3 good RFAs so they would need the cap.

He found out the hard way that Holland won't fold under pressure. I don't anticipate Athanasiou being overly difficult to sign, but if he is Ken Holland won't roll over. Look at the Puljujarvi situation for further evidence - Ken would rather he go off to Europe for a season or two than trade him for less than he's worth.

Killorn would be an excellent addition to the McDavid line, no question. Of course Russell wouldn't be included in the trade as Tampa's whole reason for trading Killorn is down to cap issues, but he can me moved elsewhere to make it work.

I like it.

Yeah i seriously doubt Edmonton is on Alex Killorn's 14 team trade list, And that's a trash offer for him anyways. Sorry Puljujarvi and Russell Yeah Tampa declines.

It's actually a "no trade" list and I agree that Edmonton is unlikely to be on it.

There was an agent on Edmonton radio recently (last week?) And the host was pressing him with questions about Edmonton being an unpopular destination for UFAs, and the agent responded that there are lots of UFAs that want to go to Edmonton but they can't due to cap issues there. He indicated that Edmonton was one of the most desirable destinations in the league, which makes a lot of sense when you look at the roster construction. Two of the top centers in the league, a young a deep defense corps and a top-10 prospect list in the league means a bright future.

For a 31 year old left winger like Killorn, a glance at the Oilers depth chart would make it probably a top-3 destination.

No i'm right it's a 16 team no trade list, And 14 teams he's willing to waive for. So he has a 14 team trade list.

The entire purpose of movi g killorn is to gain 4.45M cap space, you have taking on 4.9M at least with this trade

Edmonton is highly unlikely to be on Killer's 16 team No Trade list.

I think the perfect fit for him is Colorado personally, Not sure with Landy and Makar to sign next summer if they can afford him. but he's definitely the perfect fit for them.

Killorn has a lot more value than Pulju

Tampa has no choice. Teams know about Tampa's need to trade players lowering the asking bid

BTW HE WENT -46

Actually they have a choice of 29 other teams, that arent going to send a 4M cap dump back for a good player on a good contract

oh wait, I didn't see russell on the deal. My bad

A fair deal would probably be poolparty + a 3rd for Killorn

killorn is a good player but the oilers say no due to cap problems

Im speaking in terms of value, I expect Killorn to end up on Nashville or Colorado