If DET is down to move Mantha they'd want something for the future. Domi is the same age so don't think they'll move Mantha to downgrade.

Sure as hell isn't Domi as the main piece, If Detroit were to move Mantha to Montreal, Marc Bergevin won't like what the ask would most likely be. Detroit is trying to get big and harder to play against like Boston. Noway we've any interest in Domi.

As a wings fan, we want futures only, Domi does nothing for us. Starts with KK and this year's first rounder, then you can throw in another prospect/player for us to complete the deal

Agreed with above. My guess is that we'd want Caufield + picks.

I don't think Detroit's trying to get big anymore, that was more of a Kenny Holland thing.

Yzerman has come out and said Larkin, Mantha, Bertuzzi, and Hronek are part of the core. I’d also imagine our prospects (Zadina, Seider, Rasmussen, etc.) are only available barring overpayment (young star players). One asset Detroit has available this offseason should be cap space or we should use it to acquire FAs that want short term high dollar caps to be flipped at TDL. If your inquiring about Mantha this has been discussed on HFBoards (or current thread) that it would cost a top 10 pick in the draft + for Wings fans to feel comfortable with the trade.

Yzerman has done both here in Tampa, He generally drafts big Dmen and then the forwards average.

yeah and I just dont see Detroit trading Mantha. There comes a time when a team has too many prospects and not all of them develop. Mantha is a good, young, NHL player who has already proven he can be a good NHLer. Detroit needs some good players to ice on their lineup. If they traded Mantha, the only "quality" forwards Detroit would have going into the 2020 season would be Bertuzzi and Larkin.

Detroit fans think Anthony Mantha is Brendan Shanahan.

Even though he is almost 26 and has never scored more than 25 goals or 48 points.

Mantha to Montreal isn't happening, Yzerman would want Cole Caufield as the main piece coming back. And Bergevin would hang up. So no deal is to be had here. Move along.

Agreed with the logic. The problem is MTL is not all-in to win now. The way I see it -- is if Domi is flipped from the DET side in a three-way-deal for future potentials. So, making a trade similar to the Duchene out from COL situation. Where, DET would be getting a package of picks and prospects.

KK is a lock for MTL, Caufield is a bit of a wildcard, and the 2020 1st seems unlikely since it'll most likely be pick #9 or #1 (unless they beat PIT)
Could see a 2021 conditional 1st round pick from MTL?

If Detroit could swing Domi to COL for Girard or Byram, I'd be all for this deal. But I don't know Domi's value, and I'm guessing he's not equal in value to either of those guys.

KK does absolutely nothing for me.

1. Mantha has been said to be in their core group (Bert, Larkin, Mantha), so moving a core piece would take a major overpay (and probably ridiculous overpay to move hometown boy Larkin).
2. Moving Mantha within the division would be almost unheard of (same goes for Eichel, if they send him, he'll go west).
3. Outside of the heritage, why would MTL want Mantha? It seems to me that MTL has a bunch of 2Cs, some with W futures in them, but no real 1C (Suzuki is the closest to a 1C, JK next, they are closer to 1B Centers then they are to Eichel or even Larkin), Imagine Drouin or Domi (playing W) with a top notch 1C? Take the assets and find a 1C (or draft a 1C with those picks, there will be some in 2020 and 2021).

One word: Romanov

Yzerman likes big defensemen.

Mmm.. I could see Domi +a conditional 2021 1st round pick (lottery protected).
Or, Domi + Struble (who's a pretty solid young prospect) + 2nd round pick
Or, Domi + Norlinder (Who's MTL's highest prospect outside of Caufield and Romanov)

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Domi could definitely fetch a 1st round pick (if top 10 protected) + a smaller piece
(Getting rid of Domi, just makes sense for MTL because of all the LW on the team)

So I guess, it just depends if DET wants as many picks and potential for the future (similar to what it looks like Ottawa has been doing these past couple years)
And, hope it turns as well as it did for COL, where one of those prospects turns into a Girard-type, or one of the picks falls pretty high...

Did Mantha pee in your cereal or something? Every time Mantha pops up here you trash on him.

MTL is set on Centre for the future, with Suzuki, KK, and Danault. After LD, they lack RW with offensive output outside of Gallagher

Imo Larkin, Bertuzzi, Mantha, Hronek, and our top prospects (Zadina, Veleno, Seider, etc.) are all untouchable/ only available through a massive overpay. I don’t think Mantha will be traded unless we acquire multiple top prospects or picks which it seems like Montreal would be unwilling to do. We aren’t interested in Domi as he doesn’t really fit our rebuild.

I'm simply pointing out what he has done in his career.

There was a Detroit fan who wanted KK, a top 10 pick, another good prospect and another pick for him in this very thread. Its wild

All fans are bias towards their teams players, but the asking price I see on here from Detroit fans for Mantha is laughable. He has never had a 50 point season and is a minus player more often then not. Other than being big what is he? Montreal does need some size up front but this is not a player that I would give up KK or Caufield or even Domi for let alone our first this year.

That’s literally one poster (who posts incredibly lopsided posts). Every fan base has them so I wouldn’t stereotype a fan base by one fan. I’m sure there are some bad Sabres fans on here so you can relate. It’s also a bit disingenuous calling him a sub 50 point winger. If you go back to early Jan 2018 to present in his previous 82 games he’s had (32G 40A) on a putrid offense.

Overpayment by Habs, Mantha is not worth all that ...
maybe Domi and the 2nd

True.
But, I woud agree Mantha has way more to give than just points (Personnally I'd rather him over Larkin)
I would say MTL fans overvalue Domi greatly - I don't think he has a spot at centre on this team and I wouldn't blame DET fans for not being interested in him... remember he had his worst performances in that 4-0 sweep DET gave to MTL this past season...

It is interesting that DET fans seem to value KK the least? I'm guessing it's because we skipped on Zadina. But, KK had an excellent rookie season (better than Hughes and Kakko...) , playing as the youngest player in the league, then everything that could go wrong in 2019-2020 did; from his 16 pounds gained on his lanky build and his awkward camp, his early season concussion, to the spleen injury later on. He's played two seasons and he's still a teenager. He's already exceeded expectations when he was first drafted - I'm not the least bit worried.

Then, everyone seems to overvalue Caufield. He's got tremendous upside. But, he's a big wildcard, his one skill is shooting, if he can't translate that to the NHL, he'll be considered a bust.

Agreed, for this year's draft, they won't trade the 9th overall, goes without saying they won't trade the 1st.