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Created by: Mark_Kelley
Initial Creation Date: Jul 6, 2020
Published: Jul 6 at 11:42
Team: 2020-21 Chicago Blackhawks
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Nalimov, Ivan3$925,000
Kayumov, Artur3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Strome, Dylan5$4,000,000
Kubalik, Dominik1$3,750,000
McCoshen, Ian1$900,000
Caggiula, Drake1$1,500,000
Murray, Matt2$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Crawford, Corey2$2,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis3$925,000
Kalynuk, Wyatt2$925,000
Trades
CHI
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. 2020 4th round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Chicago gets a LHD prospect, whose put put good number in the AHL. All players haven't gotten a chance with their current club and will play with there new team
CAR
  1. Delia, Collin
  2. Sikura, Dylan
Additional Details:
Carolina gets a Foward prospect, whose put up good in the AHL and a Backup goalie whose put up good number in the AHL and is on a good contract. All players haven't gotten a chance with their current club and will play with there new team
CHI
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Määttä, Olli
CHI
  1. Tuch, Alex
Additional Details:
I saw the idea in different post Thought It was a good Idea. So I put it in mine. All credit goes to WADEJOS123
VGK
  1. Kämpf, David
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (PIT)
  3. 2021 4th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
PIT
    Sign in Free Agency as UFA
    Buyouts
    • Zack Smith: $1,083,333
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    CHI
    CHI
    CGY
    DET
    CHI
    CAR
    CHI
    CHI
    2021
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    MTL
    2022
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$76,835,128$0$5,632,500$4,664,872
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Lafreniere, Alexis
    $925,000
    CHI
    Toews, Jonathan
    $10,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Kane, Patrick
    $10,500,000
    RW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    DeBrincat, Alex
    $6,400,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Strome, Dylan
    $4,000,000
    C
    RFA
    VGK
    Tuch, Alex
    $4,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 6
    CHI
    Kubalik, Dominik
    $3,750,000
    LW
    RFA
    CHI
    Dach, Kirby
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    CHI
    Saad, Brandon
    $6,000,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Caggiula, Drake
    $1,500,000
    LW, C, RW
    RFA
    CHI
    Carpenter, Ryan
    $1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Nylander, Alexander
    $863,333
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    CHI
    Keith, Duncan
    $5,538,462
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Boqvist, Adam
    $894,167
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Murray, Matt
    $4,000,000
    G
    RFA
    CAR
    Bean, Jake
    $863,333
    LD
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Murphy, Connor
    $3,850,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Crawford, Corey
    $2,500,000
    G
    UFA
    CHI
    De Haan, Calvin
    $4,550,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Mitchell, Ian
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    CHI
    Carlsson, Lucas
    $792,500
    D
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Seabrook, Brent
    $6,875,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    CHI
    Highmore, Matthew
    $725,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    CHI
    Shaw, Andrew
    $3,900,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2

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    Jul 6 at 11:45
    #1
    Lafreniere to NYR
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    You can't straight up sign Matt Murray. He is an RFA so you'll have to acquire his rights in a trade or attempt an Offer-Sheet.
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    Jul 6 at 11:49
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    You can't straight up sign Matt Murray. He is an RFA so you'll have to acquire his rights in a trade or attempt an Offer-Sheet.


    Most likely Matt Murray will be a UFA, if the Penguins aren't going to resign him, teams will not give up much for him, so Pens should make him a UFA because all they could get is maybe a Mid-round pick
    Jul 7 at 12:05
    #3
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    Most likely Matt Murray will be a UFA, if the Penguins aren't going to resign him, teams will not give up much for him, so Pens should make him a UFA because all they could get is maybe a Mid-round pick


    Don’t say that to PIT fans.
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    Jul 7 at 12:12
    #4
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    Most likely Matt Murray will be a UFA, if the Penguins aren't going to resign him, teams will not give up much for him, so Pens should make him a UFA because all they could get is maybe a Mid-round pick


    No Matt Murray will not be a UFA because he is an RFA. If you think the pens don’t place a QO on him til they can sign him then I have beach front property in Chicago to sell you. And please pass the drugs if you think GMs are like “oh I can only get a 3rd round pick for an RFA, ok we will let him go unsigned and become a UFA and get nothing for him.”
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    Jul 7 at 12:13
    #5
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    Quoting: Pensfan89
    No Matt Murray will not be a UFA because he is an RFA. If you think the pens don’t place a QO on him til they can sign him then I have beach front property in Chicago to sell you. And please pass the drugs if you think GMs are like “oh I can only get a 3rd round pick for an RFA, ok we will let him go unsigned and become a UFA and get nothing for him.”


    @Stan_Bowman you called it
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    Jul 7 at 12:16
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    @Stan_Bowman you called it


    Well yeah, when you are making egregiously bad AGMs with ridiculous assumptions you’re going to get called out for it on this site. It’s not that complex.
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    Jul 7 at 12:18
    #7
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    Quoting: Pensfan89
    Well yeah, when you are making egregiously bad AGMs with ridiculous assumptions you’re going to get called out for it on this site. It’s not that complex.


    I'll bet you when FA comes around Matt Murray will be an UFA
    Jul 7 at 12:21
    #8
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    Most likely Matt Murray will be a UFA, if the Penguins aren't going to resign him, teams will not give up much for him, so Pens should make him a UFA because all they could get is maybe a Mid-round pick


    So you think because he won't get a haul on the trade front it's best to let him walk for nothing? Splendid thinking!
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    Jul 7 at 12:23
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    I'll bet you when FA comes around Matt Murray will be an UFA


    so the pens are just gonna give up a mid round pick (at least) to let a guy walk as a UFA...? That's what makes no sense to me
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    Jul 7 at 12:25
    #10
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    I'll bet you when FA comes around Matt Murray will be an UFA


    No he won’t. You are either stupid or a troll. Based on previous AGMs where you mention this idea, I will guess it’s the former.
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    Jul 7 at 12:26
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    So you think because he won't get a haul on the trade front it's best to let him walk for nothing? Splendid thinking!

    Quoting: Pensfan89
    No he won’t. You are either stupid or a troll. Based on previous AGMs where you mention this idea, I will guess it’s the former.

    Matt Murray wants to get paid and the Pens will not pay him and doesn't have the cap room. No teams will trade for him, when they could get a better goalie in FA
    Jul 7 at 12:28
    #12
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    Matt Murray wants to get paid and the Pens will not pay him and doesn't have the cap room. No teams will trade for him, when they could get a better goalie in FA


    COL is one team that has interest already. What makes you think there Is not a single team that would want a young-ish goalie who has won a Stanley cup at the cost of a puny 2nd or 3rd round pick as you claim his value is established?
    Jul 7 at 12:33
    #13
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    COL is one team that has interest already. What makes you think there Is not a single team that would want a young-ish goalie who has won a Stanley cup at the cost of a puny 2nd or 3rd round pick as you claim his value is established?


    Unless Pittsburgh Signs him and then flips him after, I still think he'll become a UFA, or If the goalies that are better resigns
    Jul 7 at 12:35
    #14
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    Matt Murray wants to get paid and the Pens will not pay him and doesn't have the cap room. No teams will trade for him, when they could get a better goalie in FA


    The pens have just over 13 million in cap room next year. Wtf are you talking about that they have no cap room?
    Jul 7 at 12:38
    #15
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    Matt Murray wants to get paid and the Pens will not pay him and doesn't have the cap room. No teams will trade for him, when they could get a better goalie in FA


    Most of the free agent goalies are really old, many GM's might see Murray as still being a starter, the likes of Greiss, Khudobin, Talbot, etc not so much.
    Jul 7 at 12:39
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    Edited Jul 7 at 12:49
    Quoting: Pensfan89
    The pens have just over 13 million in cap room next year. Wtf are you talking about that they have no cap room?


    They still got to sign Jarry, Sheary, Schutz,Mccan Rodrigues. the Rest goes to there other RFA or FA they want to sign
    Jul 7 at 12:40
    #17
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Most of the free agent goalies are really old, many GM's might see Murray as still being a starter, the likes of Greiss, Khudobin, Talbot, etc not so much.


    you still got Holtby, Markstrom, Lehner, and I think Murray is a starter as well
    Jul 7 at 12:44
    #18
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    you still got Holtby, Markstrom, Lehner, and I think Murray is a starter as well


    Yeah I forgot about those three, damn there's a lot of UFA goalies this offseason.. Lol
    I think some of them might be out of a job.
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    Jul 7 at 12:50
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    Quoting: Pensfan89
    No Matt Murray will not be a UFA because he is an RFA. If you think the pens don’t place a QO on him til they can sign him then I have beach front property in Chicago to sell you. And please pass the drugs if you think GMs are like “oh I can only get a 3rd round pick for an RFA, ok we will let him go unsigned and become a UFA and get nothing for him.”


    LMAO there is beachfront property in Chicago....perhaps take a look at a map
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    Jul 7 at 12:53
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    They still got to sign Jarry, Sheary, Schutz,Mccan Rodrigues. the Rest goes to there other RFA or FA they want to sign


    Jim Rutherford: Do I re-sign vanilla midgets like Sheary and Rodrigues? Do I re-sign Schultz who hasn’t been the same since 2017? Or do I sign the 2 time cup winning goalie who steps up in big games (3-0 in game 7’s, not including shutouts in game 5 & 6 of the 2017 cup)?
    Ahhh yes I’ll sign the vanilla midgets like Sheary and Rodrigues while letting Murray go to UFA. Then let another team sign him to a minuscule 250k raise, getting nothing in return lol.

    Does it hurt being this dumb?
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    Jul 7 at 12:56
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    Edited Jul 7 at 1:13
    Crow won't sign for that, he'd retire first and likely another team would offer him $4M to $5M on a 1 or 2 year deal. Chicago will pay him $4M and frankly he was certainly better then Murray this season.

    I get that the acquisition of Bean is cheap, but #1 - De Haan will play in front of him and #2 the Hawks have Carlsson who is ready, Beaudin, Gilbert, Seeler, Vlasic in the wings waiting. There is really no need for another bottom 4 defensive player. There is definitely a need for a top player on the left though. Koekko also should get signed...he's the perfect 7th man. Seabs also isn't on LITR...not happening which negates the Alex Tuch trade.
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    Jul 7 at 12:57
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    Quoting: Pensfan89
    Does it hurt being this dumb?


    You mean like not knowing there is beachfront property in Chicago? You call someone "dumb" and yet you make a moronic statement that someone with a GED would know. SMH
    Jul 7 at 12:59
    #23
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    Edited Jul 7 at 1:04
    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Crow won't sign for that, he'd retire first and likely another team would offer him $4M to $5M on a 1 or 2 year deal. Chicago will pay him $4M and frankly he was certainly better then Murray this season.

    I get that the acquisition of Bean is cheap, but #1 - De Haan will play in front of him and #2 the Hawks have Carlsson who is ready, Beaudin, Gilbert, Seeler, Vlasic in the wings waiting. There is really no need for another bottom 4 defensive player. There is definitely a need for a top 2 player on the left though. Koekko also should get signed...he's the perfect 7th man. Seabs also isn't on LITR...not happening which negates the Alex Tuch trade.


    i was rethinking the Bean trade being, i was looking at Wyatt Kalynuk and with him signed there no-point of the Bean Trade and I feal Like Seeler or Gilbert should be our 7th D there cheaper options and better Defensively and tougher. No hate to Keokkoek I hope he can find a better place were he can get more playing time
    Jul 7 at 1:02
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    Quoting: Mark_Kelley
    Most likely Matt Murray will be a UFA, if the Penguins aren't going to resign him, teams will not give up much for him, so Pens should make him a UFA because all they could get is maybe a Mid-round pick


    sure and Saad is with 3 1st round picks.
    FFS
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    Jul 7 at 1:03
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    You mean like not knowing there is beachfront property in Chicago?


    Where in Chicago is there true beachfront property? Lol. The only thing close are some condos that are across like 2-3 highways 😂
     
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