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Who will have the better career pt 2

Created by: SevenLeg
Team: 2019-20 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 7, 2020
Published: Jul. 7, 2020
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Similar to the last one, but with older players
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23$81,500,000$121,673,856$0$6,765,000-$40,173,856
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$3,350,000$3,350,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,725,000$4,725,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$8,454,000$8,454,000
C
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 6
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,050,000$1,050,000
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UFA - 2

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Jul. 7, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
#1
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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McAvoy
Vrana
Marner
Matthews
DeBrincat
Boeser
Ekblad
Aho
Pastrnak
Hischier
Dvorak
Blackwood.
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:00 p.m.
#2
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McAvoy
Fiala
Marner
Matthews
Connor
Konecny
Provorov
Barzal
Draisaitl
PLD
Dvorak
Blackwood
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:01 p.m.
#3
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Fox
Vrana
Marner
Eichel
Connor
Konecny
Ekblad
Aho
Pastranak
Dubois
Dvorak
Blackwood
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:01 p.m.
#4
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Hop on the Slaftrain
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Quoting: SammyT_51
McAvoy
Vrana
Marner
Matthews
DeBrincat
Boeser
Ekblad
Aho
Pastrnak
Hischier
Dvorak
Blackwood.


Quoting: mnwild1790
McAvoy
Fiala
Marner
Matthews
Connor
Konecny
Provorov
Barzal
Draisaitl
PLD
Dvorak
Blackwood


Polarizing results so far
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:01 p.m.
#5
Cold spaghetti
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Mcavoy
Vrana
Marner
AM34
ADB
Boeser
Provorov
Aho
Pasta
PLD
Tuch
Blackwood
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:03 p.m.
#6
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Fox
Vrana
Marner
Matthews
Connor
Konecny
Ekblad
Aho
Draisaitl
Dubois
Dvorak
Blackwood
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:03 p.m.
#7
CbjSabresDucks
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McAvoy
Vrana
Marner
Matthews
Connor
Konecny
provorov
Aho
Drai
Hischier (im a CBJ fan. Hischier is mighty underrated)
Tuch
Blackwood
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:05 p.m.
#8
NoWah49
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McAvoy, Fiala, Marner, Matthews, DeBrincat, Boeser, Provorov, Barzal, Draisaitl, Hischier, Dvorak, Blackwood
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:05 p.m.
#9
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Polarizing results so far


You did a heck of a job finding comparable players. Some of them were tough. It would be a fun debate for each one IMO
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
#10
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McAvoy
Vrana
Rantanen
Eichel
Connor
Boeser
Ekblad
Aho
Draisaitl
Dubois
Tuch
Blackwood (no contest)
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
#11
Bcarlo25
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Putting mcavoy’s name next to fox is just a joke. Left side except for Dubios and maybe Provorov.
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:08 p.m.
#12
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McAvoy
Vrana
Rantanen
Eichel
Connor
Boeser
Ekblad
Barzal
Pastrnak
Hischer
Dvorak
Demko
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:08 p.m.
#13
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Hop on the Slaftrain
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Putting mcavoy’s name next to fox is just a joke. Left side except for Dubios and maybe Provorov.


Not that much of a joke since two guys voted for him
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:10 p.m.
#14
Go Jets Go
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Fox
Vrana
Rantanen
Matthews
Connor
Konecny
Ekblad
Aho
Draisaitl
Dubois
Dvorak
Blackwood
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:11 p.m.
#15
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McAvoy
Vrana
Mikko
Matthews
Connor
Konecny
Provorov
Aho
Drai
Hischier
Dvorak
Blackwood
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
#16
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Not that much of a joke since two guys voted for him


And statistically Fox had the better season. Very comparable players
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
#17
Sabres are elite
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I'm gonna go off who will be most successful in getting their teams to the playoffs or winning Stanley Cups, not necessarily the amount of points or awards won:

McAvoy
Fiala
Rantanen
Matthews (if Buffalo gets their crap together than Eichel)
Connor
Konecny
Ekblad
Aho
Pastrnak
PLD
Dvorak
Demko
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.
#18
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Quoting: SammyT_51
McAvoy
Vrana
Marner
Matthews
DeBrincat
Boeser
Ekblad
Aho
Pastrnak
Hischier
Dvorak
Blackwood.


Quoting: mnwild1790
McAvoy
Fiala
Marner
Matthews
Connor
Konecny
Provorov
Barzal
Draisaitl
PLD
Dvorak
Blackwood


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Fox
Vrana
Marner
Eichel
Connor
Konecny
Ekblad
Aho
Pastranak
Dubois
Dvorak
Blackwood


Quoting: SevenLeg
Polarizing results so far


Your all crazy for picking Marner over Rantanen
Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Goilersfan1215
Your all crazy for picking Marner over Rantanen


How so?
Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:36 p.m.
#20
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Quoting: mnwild1790
How so?


Better player/better goal scorer, on a better team who’s also on a better contract just as a bonus. IMO
Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.
#21
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Not that much of a joke since two guys voted for him


Those guys are idiots.
Jul. 7, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.
#22
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: mnwild1790
And statistically Fox had the better season. Very comparable players


Word. In terms of hockey one is like 8 times better than the other.
One is the number one all situation d man for the presidents trophy winner, and eastern conference champ from last year, and the other can’t be counted on for more than 19 minutes a night.

It’s like comparing a decent motor cycle to a 400,000 dollar car because the bike is faster.
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Jul. 7, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Goilersfan1215
Better player/better goal scorer, on a better team who’s also on a better contract just as a bonus. IMO


You very well could be right. That's the beauty of these discussions. But here's my rebuttal:

While I'll agree he's on a better team, better line, and on a better contract...those are all outside factors. Despite all these factors, Marner still averages more points per game so far than Rantanen. Plus, according to Dom at the Athletic, his projected GSVA was almost a whole point higher than Rantanen's (3.69 vs. 2.87). Rantanen is also a career -21 whereas Marner is a career +27.
Jul. 7, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Goilersfan1215
Better player/better goal scorer, on a better team who’s also on a better contract just as a bonus. IMO


16 more goals over almost 300 games isn't terribly convincing.

both are very good players, i simply think marner is better
Jul. 7, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Word. In terms of hockey one is like 8 times better than the other.
One is the number one all situation d man for the presidents trophy winner, and eastern conference champ from last year, and the other can’t be counted on for more than 19 minutes a night.

It’s like comparing a decent motor cycle to a 400,000 dollar car because the bike is faster.


Haha I love your analogy but I do think Fox can be a top 10 defender in this league like McAvoy. They just have 2 different styles of play. If you notice who I picked, I'm agreeing with you on who'll have the better career. I'm just arguing that they don't belong on the same level.
 
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