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Created by: Sicarius
Team: 2020-21 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 7, 2020
Published: Jul. 7, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,250,000
Trades
1.
STL
ANA
  1. Steen, Alexander
Additional Details:
STEEN RETIRES
2.
STL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (NYI)
3.
STL
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (EDM)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$68,058,848$306,349$1,712,500$13,441,152
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$8,250,000$8,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$758,333$758,333
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,475,000$1,475,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000 (Performance Bonus$87,500$88K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,200,000$1M)
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jul. 8, 2020 at 12:17 a.m.
#26
Terry_AkiSauce
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Quoting: Sicarius
Ok. I can think of teams who would want to OS Sergachev. It doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.


Itll happen if the team doesn't offer fair compensation and the players can find much better contracts elsewhere
Jul. 8, 2020 at 12:29 a.m.
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Sicarius
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let me be clear on this for you.
The AHL allows the greatest level of player development any player can get outside the NHL. Mainly because it's the NHL's people doing those things.
Not the CHL, not a euro league, not the NCAA. The NHL.

It should not take a player 3 years to develop there, even at 18.
They have good facilities to gain strength, strength coaches, dietary help......the works.
Which is why so many teams send their young players there before entering in the NHL. But the reality is, most of those players may go there for 6 months, to a year before entering into the NHL. Not 3 years.
And spare me an age thing because it's not an age issue. 3 years of pro level coaching. And you haven't done anything with him. You let him sit.
It's not even a mark on the player at this point. It's the team itself killing their value.


Maybe I can shed some light on Kostin for you. I’m fully aware of what the AHL is compared to vs junior leagues or college or Euro Leabo. The fact is it’s rare that an 18 year old has to play in the A. Kostin spoke no English at 18. Once his first year started the Blues lost control over their AHL team to Vegas. Vegas doesn’t care about Kostin’s development and rightfully so therefore his entire season was a very bad growth year.

He has improved each of the last two years and the only reasons he didn’t stick on the NHL roster this year is because the Blues have insane depth at forward and they could get by with keeping him in the A.

Playing in the A isn’t only about amassing stats. If you haven’t seen Kostin play at both levels and are only looking at a stat sheet I can understand how you form an opinion.

I think Kostin will be a top 6 power forward and personally I wouldn’t take less than a mid range 1st for him. This is a make believe trade. I welcome other opinions but it helps credibility more if you’re not just pulling stats alone.
Jul. 8, 2020 at 12:48 a.m.
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Quoting: Sicarius
Maybe I can shed some light on Kostin for you. I’m fully aware of what the AHL is compared to vs junior leagues or college or Euro Leabo. The fact is it’s rare that an 18 year old has to play in the A. Kostin spoke no English at 18. Once his first year started the Blues lost control over their AHL team to Vegas. Vegas doesn’t care about Kostin’s development and rightfully so therefore his entire season was a very bad growth year.

He has improved each of the last two years and the only reasons he didn’t stick on the NHL roster this year is because the Blues have insane depth at forward and they could get by with keeping him in the A.

Playing in the A isn’t only about amassing stats. If you haven’t seen Kostin play at both levels and are only looking at a stat sheet I can understand how you form an opinion.

I think Kostin will be a top 6 power forward and personally I wouldn’t take less than a mid range 1st for him. This is a make believe trade. I welcome other opinions but it helps credibility more if you’re not just pulling stats alone.


depth was not the issue or the problem.
Nor was a language barrier.
Nor is being 18 in the AHL rare. Lots of players come into the AHL young. Kapanen in TOR did it, by 21 he was full time on TOR mid way through the season.
Lot of players skip the AHL all the time and come into the NHL at 19 and 20.
Suzuki this year in MTL for example.

So it's not an age issue. It's not a blocked path issue. It's not a whatever issue you want to try to make it. He's had 3 years in the AHL. It's not about stats. It's about STL not having done anything with him and then wanting to claim he's still worth a 1st. It doesn't work that way. Players do lose value if you don't DO anything with them.
Much like Kyrou who STL fans built up to be the next Jesus walking on water. But now he looks like a run of the mill 3rd liner worth about a mid round pick.
Jul. 8, 2020 at 2:22 a.m.
#29
Simpleton
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Quoting: Sicarius
The Blues won’t need another LD and they definitely won’t want salary coming back.


Edmonton has its own cap concerns, so they can't bring in contracts without moving out contracts as well. They also don't have a lot of strength that correlates well to any needs St. Louis may have. If not Russell, the only other players they can offer are probably Chiasson, Benning, and Khaira. I don't think there's a deal to be made involving Allen and any of those current Oilers.
Jul. 8, 2020 at 6:39 a.m.
#30
mokumboi
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No. Still.
Jul. 8, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
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I would do that trade if I was Ottawa only to buy out bozak but also wouldn’t give you a first. Maybe a top second then a third combined
 
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