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Gibson for Eichel

Created by: oneX
Team: 2020-21 Anaheim Ducks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 8, 2020
Published: Jul. 8, 2020
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Only looking to discuss this trade here.

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Jul. 8, 2020 at 6:51 p.m.
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For the sake of fun. I travel into the future 2023-2024 to be exact I package Gibby/Dostal a 1st(Top 3 Protected), B prospect from previous drafts and a assortment of picks 2nd-4th with conditions like if Ducks were to get to the SCF or WCF the 2026 2nd becomes a first and so on. Thoughts?
Jul. 8, 2020 at 6:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Arlotti47
Gibson is the only reason why the Ducks weren’t last. Eichel were the only reason why the Sabres weren’t last. Both teams need those players to stay on their team.


Ducks can easily sign Lehner or Markstrom after the trade and be contenders.

Buffalo could offer sheet Cirelli and get a major piece for Ullmark .


No path is simple, certainly not the path forward
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Jul. 8, 2020 at 6:59 p.m.
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The margin between elite goaltending and average goaltending is so much smaller than the margin between an elite center and an average center. To put it another way, Gibson was below average this year and eichel will never be below average for the length of his contract. Sabres should decline. And I think Gibson is the best goalie in the league. Goalie is just such a volatile position.
Jul. 8, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Trickster
Why would Ducks say no?
Even Gibson and Henrique for Eichel, I'd do it eyes closed no problem


What a great idea!!
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Jul. 8, 2020 at 7:12 p.m.
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The margin between elite goaltending and average goaltending is so much smaller than the margin between an elite center and an average center. To put it another way, Gibson was below average this year and eichel will never be below average for the length of his contract. Sabres should decline. And I think Gibson is the best goalie in the league. Goalie is just such a volatile position.


I did ask what should be added to the deal, likely from Anaheim. Even adding a roster player and a pick would make sense for the Ducks.

As others pointed out, the team can then go and sign a UFA goalie ( Lehner or Markstrom) and still be competitive and keep the young players they have.
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Jul. 8, 2020 at 8:21 p.m.
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Gibson couldn’t get the Ducks to the playoffs. What’s he going to be in BUF minus Eichel. Easy no for BUF.
Jul. 8, 2020 at 10:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15
Gibson couldn’t get the Ducks to the playoffs. What’s he going to be in BUF minus Eichel. Easy no for BUF.


That assumes Buffalo has a choice.
Jul. 8, 2020 at 11:38 p.m.
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Quoting: hanson493
heres the problem with this deal... gibson who is a stud and could help carry a contender is being swapped to another rebuilding team. It would make more sense to trade gibson to a carolina who needs a goalie. but at the same time. Why would anaheim give a way a 26 year old goalie. its hard to find goalies of his caliber.


You’re asking why Anaheim would trade a 26yo goalie for an elite 23yo franchise center with 6 years remaining on his contract?
Jul. 8, 2020 at 11:42 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
That assumes Buffalo has a choice.

A choice in whether they trade Eichel? A player with 6 years remaining in his contract and who has no power, even if he requested a trade? Which he hasn’t. Buffalo has no obligation to trade him and even if they did choose to, they certainly would have a choice as to where and for what. A goalie? C’mon
Jul. 8, 2020 at 11:42 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
That assumes Buffalo has a choice.

A choice in whether they trade Eichel? A player with 6 years remaining in his contract and who has no power, even if he requested a trade? Which he hasn’t. Buffalo has no obligation to trade him and even if they did choose to, they certainly would have a choice as to where and for what. A goalie? C’mon
Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:46 a.m.
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You’re asking why Anaheim would trade a 26yo goalie for an elite 23yo franchise center with 6 years remaining on his contract?


yes. Goalie is the most important position on the ice and gibson is one of the best in the league. gibsons contract has 7 more years at 6.4m thats INCREDIBLE value for a position that is hard to find. I dont think anaheim trades that for 1 player as good as eichel is.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:48 a.m.
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Quoting: hanson493
yes. Goalie is the most important position on the ice and gibson is one of the best in the league. gibsons contract has 7 more years at 6.4m thats INCREDIBLE value for a position that is hard to find. I dont think anaheim trades that for 1 player as good as eichel is.

Ummmm, no. Elite center is the most important position in hockey and extremely hard to come by. Gibson is replaceable. He’s great, but you’re not getting Eichel for that.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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That assumes Buffalo has a choice.


Eichel is under contract for 6 yrs. Unless he wants to play in the KHL BUF doesn’t have to do a thing they don’t want to.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 9:50 a.m.
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Ummmm, no. Elite center is the most important position in hockey and extremely hard to come by. Gibson is replaceable. He’s great, but you’re not getting Eichel for that.


first it takes a team to win, second you can win the stanley cup without an elite center. 3rd. almost every team has an elite center so i wouldnt say they are extremely hard to come by. Gibson is not replaceable. theres 90-95% of the league who would kill to have john gibson as their starting goalie for the next 7 years.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.
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first it takes a team to win, second you can win the stanley cup without an elite center. 3rd. almost every team has an elite center so i wouldnt say they are extremely hard to come by. Gibson is not replaceable. theres 90-95% of the league who would kill to have john gibson as their starting goalie for the next 7 years.


OMG are you out of your mind? Elite centers are almost always acquired through the top picks in the draft. They don’t get traded. Especially in their prime. Also, almost every Stanley cup winning team in recent history has an elite center
Jul. 9, 2020 at 10:11 a.m.
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OMG are you out of your mind? Elite centers are almost always acquired through the top picks in the draft. They don’t get traded. Especially in their prime. Also, almost every Stanley cup winning team in recent history has an elite center


or a stud goalie that got hot through the playoffs... quick, crawford, murray, rask, holtby... cant be anything to do with overall team composition either. has to be solely one elite center. lmao. lets try this a different way. name a team without an elite center. vs name a team without elite goaltending. cuz gibson is elite. one side is going to be alot higher than the other no? hows buffalo doing without a decent goaltender? hows carolina or toronto doing without that elite goaltender. if either team had gibson they would be stanley cup favorites.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 10:13 a.m.
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or a stud goalie that got hot through the playoffs... quick, crawford, murray, rask, holtby... cant be anything to do with overall team composition either. has to be solely one elite center. lmao. lets try this a different way. name a team without an elite center. vs name a team without elite goaltending. cuz gibson is elite. one side is going to be alot higher than the other no? hows buffalo doing without a decent goaltender? hows carolina or toronto doing without that elite goaltender. if either team had gibson they would be stanley cup favorites.


How’s Anaheim doing WITH Gibson? And why are you trying to trade him for Eichel if he’s so important. No thanks.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.
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How’s Anaheim doing WITH Gibson? And why are you trying to trade him for Eichel if he’s so important. No thanks.


im not trading him for eichel... as stated by my 3 previous comments youve replied on. and again. takes a team. not just 1 or 2 players. you NEED the goalie if you have any shot at winning a cup though.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 11:13 a.m.
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im not trading him for eichel... as stated by my 3 previous comments youve replied on. and again. takes a team. not just 1 or 2 players. you NEED the goalie if you have any shot at winning a cup though.


They don’t need Gibson for eichel
Jul. 9, 2020 at 12:45 p.m.
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A choice in whether they trade Eichel? A player with 6 years remaining in his contract and who has no power, even if he requested a trade? Which he hasn’t. Buffalo has no obligation to trade him and even if they did choose to, they certainly would have a choice as to where and for what. A goalie? C’mon


Quoting: Xqb15
Eichel is under contract for 6 yrs. Unless he wants to play in the KHL BUF doesn’t have to do a thing they don’t want to.


I think that you're going to be unpleasantly surprised to learn how the real world works. Unhappy employees tend to be a sufficient irritant that they have to be removed. See Patrick Roy.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
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I think that you're going to be unpleasantly surprised to learn how the real world works. Unhappy employees tend to be a sufficient irritant that they have to be removed. See Patrick Roy.

I guess they’ll deal with it if it gets to that point. But. It’s not, so why trade him?
Jul. 9, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
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I guess they’ll deal with it if it gets to that point. But. It’s not, so why trade him?


Then why all the rumors the past two weeks after Eichel's public statements?

I'm not saying that they haven't been taken out of context or at least blown out of proportion, but there is some definite dis-satisfaction there.
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Jul. 9, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.
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Then why all the rumors the past two weeks after Eichel's public statements?

I'm not saying that they haven't been taken out of context or at least blown out of proportion, but there is some definite dis-satisfaction there.

They’re are no rumors, not in Buffalo anyway. What you’re probably reading are people posting articles so they can get clicks.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 1:32 p.m.
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I think that you're going to be unpleasantly surprised to learn how the real world works. Unhappy employees tend to be a sufficient irritant that they have to be removed. See Patrick Roy.


Well seeing as how I’ve managed people for over 20 yrs, I wouldn’t be surprised. However a guy making $10M a yr for 6 yrs decides to be an irritant, what’s he going to do have a tantrum get on social media and say if you don’t trade me I’m going to pout? He literally has ZERO leverage. Are they going to be any worse because he wants to be an irritant how does that suit his needs? Duchene requested a trade and Colorado kept him for 18 months because they didn’t like what the offers were. You don’t think the GM’s and owners of the world took notice of that? BUF literally would be foolish to do anything other than set the price at a kings ransom and not accept a penny less.
 
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