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Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 9, 2020
Published: Jul. 9, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,150,000
2$815,000
2$3,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$1,300,000
2$1,575,000
1$700,000
2$700,000
1$3,500,000
1$800,000
1$775,000
2$3,500,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (FLA)
2.
EDM
  1. 2020 4th round pick (ANA)
3.
EDM
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (WSH)
DET
  1. Benning, Matthew [RFA Rights]
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,274,366$341,534$230,000$225,634
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$915,000$915,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,575,000$1,575,000
RD
UFA
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$815,000$815,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 2

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Jul. 9, 2020 at 7:15 p.m.
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Florida declines
Jul. 9, 2020 at 7:16 p.m.
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Don't think Edmonton gets return for Russell will probably need to pay someone to take that contract. Benning and Jujhar are league minimum type players and tons of UFA's that can fill those roles. Maybe get late round picks or can add them as pieces for larger trades but not going to get 2nd or even 4th round picks for them
Jul. 9, 2020 at 7:21 p.m.
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2nd round pick for Benning lololol. Sure I'll trade you abdelkator for a 2nd too
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Jul. 9, 2020 at 7:59 p.m.
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Detroit is looking for a LD. Plus I think a 2nd for Benning is a bit much.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:36 p.m.
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All three of these trades are quickly declined. Soderberg is a good grab, but you don’t have the cap space after those trades are declined
Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:37 p.m.
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Don't think Edmonton gets return for Russell will probably need to pay someone to take that contract. Benning and Jujhar are league minimum type players and tons of UFA's that can fill those roles. Maybe get late round picks or can add them as pieces for larger trades but not going to get 2nd or even 4th round picks for them


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2nd round pick for Benning lololol. Sure I'll trade you abdelkator for a 2nd too


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Detroit is looking for a LD. Plus I think a 2nd for Benning is a bit much.


A mid-2nd is about right for Matt Benning. He's a 25 year old RHD with an established track record at the NHL level. He's been consistently good every season, winning his 5v5 minutes on a team that generally hasn't. He has value at $2M.

5v5 GF% (relative to team)
2016-17: 56.76% (+5.03)
2017-18: 51.55% (+3.38)
2018-19: 55.84% (+12.22)
2019-20: 58.97% (+10.77)

His point production is good too, and steadily improving:

2016-17: 0.71 P/60
2017-18: 0.85
2018-19: 0.86
2019-20: 0.91

He would go in the top 40 in a re-draft, making him pretty decent value for Washington's 2nd round pick. You're probably overvaluing what that pick is worth; this quote might help:

The truth is that very few players taken in the NHL draft... will ever play in the NHL. In order to get an accurate read of how many drafted players played at least 200 games in the NHL, a study by proicehockey.about.com looked at the drafts between 1990 and 1999. Of the 2,600 hundred players drafted just 494 or 19% played in at least 200 contests. 63% of first round picks played but less than 25% of second round picks survived and only 12% of third rounder selections.

https://guelphstorm.com/odds-not-great-for-nhl-draft-picks

That late 2nd has very little chance of becoming the player Matt Benning is today.
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Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:41 p.m.
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A mid-2nd is about right for Matt Benning. He's a 25 year old RHD with an established track record at the NHL level. He's been consistently good every season, winning his 5v5 minutes on a team that generally hasn't. He has value at $2M.

5v5 GF% (relative to team)
2016-17: 56.76% (+5.03)
2017-18: 51.55% (+3.38)
2018-19: 55.84% (+12.22)
2019-20: 58.97% (+10.77)

His point production is good too, and steadily improving:

2016-17: 0.71 P/60
2017-18: 0.85
2018-19: 0.86
2019-20: 0.91

He would go in the top 40 in a re-draft, making him pretty decent value for Washington's 2nd round pick. You're probably overvaluing what that pick is worth; this quote might help:

The truth is that very few players taken in the NHL draft... will ever play in the NHL. In order to get an accurate read of how many drafted players played at least 200 games in the NHL, a study by proicehockey.about.com looked at the drafts between 1990 and 1999. Of the 2,600 hundred players drafted just 494 or 19% played in at least 200 contests. 63% of first round picks played but less than 25% of second round picks survived and only 12% of third rounder selections.

https://guelphstorm.com/odds-not-great-for-nhl-draft-picks

That late 2nd has very little chance of becoming the player Matt Benning is today.


Ok when you get a 2nd round pick for him remind me and I will agree with you but till he isn't worth a 2nd IMO.
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Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:45 p.m.
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I could see Florida being interested in Russell, but expect something lower than a 3rd.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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Florida declines


Only because LA made a better offer.
Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:48 p.m.
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Don't think Edmonton gets return for Russell will probably need to pay someone to take that contract. Benning and Jujhar are league minimum type players and tons of UFA's that can fill those roles. Maybe get late round picks or can add them as pieces for larger trades but not going to get 2nd or even 4th round picks for them


Boston offered Heinen for Khaira at the deadline. I don't think a 4th is unreasonable.
Jul. 10, 2020 at 8:08 a.m.
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Boston offered Heinen for Khaira at the deadline. I don't think a 4th is unreasonable.


Heinen was a cap dump. They were not looking for equal.value back that is why they were willing to move him for Ritchie otherwise they would have been over the cap. They were taking any 4th liner that they could plug into their lineup and had a low cap hit.
Jul. 10, 2020 at 8:18 a.m.
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A mid-2nd is about right for Matt Benning. He's a 25 year old RHD with an established track record at the NHL level. He's been consistently good every season, winning his 5v5 minutes on a team that generally hasn't. He has value at $2M.

5v5 GF% (relative to team)
2016-17: 56.76% (+5.03)
2017-18: 51.55% (+3.38)
2018-19: 55.84% (+12.22)
2019-20: 58.97% (+10.77)

His point production is good too, and steadily improving:

2016-17: 0.71 P/60
2017-18: 0.85
2018-19: 0.86
2019-20: 0.91

He would go in the top 40 in a re-draft, making him pretty decent value for Washington's 2nd round pick. You're probably overvaluing what that pick is worth; this quote might help:

The truth is that very few players taken in the NHL draft... will ever play in the NHL. In order to get an accurate read of how many drafted players played at least 200 games in the NHL, a study by proicehockey.about.com looked at the drafts between 1990 and 1999. Of the 2,600 hundred players drafted just 494 or 19% played in at least 200 contests. 63% of first round picks played but less than 25% of second round picks survived and only 12% of third rounder selections.

https://guelphstorm.com/odds-not-great-for-nhl-draft-picks

That late 2nd has very little chance of becoming the player Matt Benning is today.


All that being said why on Earth would Edmonton trade this player. It seems like he is a great value contract that they are lucky to have
Jul. 10, 2020 at 8:23 a.m.
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Heinen was a cap dump. They were not looking for equal.value back that is why they were willing to move him for Ritchie otherwise they would have been over the cap. They were taking any 4th liner that they could plug into their lineup and had a low cap hit.


So a plug-and-play 4th liner who has a low cap hit and is one of the best PKers in the league* isn't worth a 4th round pick in your opinion? That's a really bad take on your part.

* among forwards who played at least 90 minutes at 4v5 this year (104 players qualify), Khaira was

- 6th in SA/60
- 1st in GA/60
- 12th in xGA/60
- 7th in HDCA/60
Jul. 10, 2020 at 8:25 a.m.
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All that being said why on Earth would Edmonton trade this player. It seems like he is a great value contract that they are lucky to have


It is and they are. The only reason to trade him is to make room for Evan Bouchard, who is considered NHL ready.
Jul. 10, 2020 at 8:38 a.m.
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So a plug-and-play 4th liner who has a low cap hit and is one of the best PKers in the league* isn't worth a 4th round pick in your opinion? That's a really bad take on your part.

* among forwards who played at least 90 minutes at 4v5 this year (104 players qualify), Khaira was

- 6th in SA/60
- 1st in GA/60
- 12th in xGA/60
- 7th in HDCA/60


Well by your logic it appears he is worth a second because a second round draft pick likely won't even amount to that much.
Jul. 10, 2020 at 8:39 a.m.
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It is and they are. The only reason to trade him is to make room for Evan Bouchard, who is considered NHL ready.


Why then would you be signing Mike Green as UFA and playing him ahead of him??
Jul. 10, 2020 at 8:42 a.m.
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Only because LA made a better offer.


Keep dreaming!
Jul. 10, 2020 at 8:44 a.m.
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Keep dreaming!


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Jul. 10, 2020 at 8:51 a.m.
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Why then would you be signing Mike Green as UFA and playing him ahead of him??


This isn't my AGM, but I'll give you my thoughts on the subject.

The only reason I would do it would be price. Benning's QO is $2M, there's some thought that Green could sign for less. Not sure if this is true, but he knows Holland and Edmonton gives him an opportunity to win again before retirement, so it is at least a plausible idea.

If Edmonton can save $500k to $1M on 3RD (and have Green platoon with Bouchard), that gives them some money to bolster another position AND it gets them another pick in the draft without losing much - if any - quality on the ice.
Jul. 10, 2020 at 9:00 a.m.
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Well by your logic it appears he is worth a second because a second round draft pick likely won't even amount to that much.


Pick values fluctuate during the year. They are highest leading up to the draft and lowest at the deadline. A smart GM takes advantage.

I don't think Khaira gets a 2nd leading up to the draft. At the deadline maybe (depending on how he's performing and how badly a team needs his skills), but we're not there right now.
Jul. 10, 2020 at 9:01 a.m.
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This isn't my AGM, but I'll give you my thoughts on the subject.

The only reason I would do it would be price. Benning's QO is $2M, there's some thought that Green could sign for less. Not sure if this is true, but he knows Holland and Edmonton gives him an opportunity to win again before retirement, so it is at least a plausible idea.

If Edmonton can save $500k to $1M on 3RD (and have Green platoon with Bouchard), that gives them some money to bolster another position AND it gets them another pick in the draft without losing much - if any - quality on the ice.


A few better defenseman and their returns last year Dylan Demelo 3rd round pick, Derek Forbort 4th round pick, Erik Gustafson 3rd round pick,
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This isn't my AGM, but I'll give you my thoughts on the subject.

The only reason I would do it would be price. Benning's QO is $2M, there's some thought that Green could sign for less. Not sure if this is true, but he knows Holland and Edmonton gives him an opportunity to win again before retirement, so it is at least a plausible idea.

If Edmonton can save $500k to $1M on 3RD (and have Green platoon with Bouchard), that gives them some money to bolster another position AND it gets them another pick in the draft without losing much - if any - quality on the ice.


A few better defenseman and their trade returns last year Demelo 3rd, Gustafson 3rd, Forbort 4th, Marino conditional 6th (yikes), Mike Reilly very comparable player ahl player and 5th
Jul. 10, 2020 at 9:02 a.m.
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Pick values fluctuate during the year. They are highest leading up to the draft and lowest at the deadline. A smart GM takes advantage.

I don't think Khaira gets a 2nd leading up to the draft. At the deadline maybe (depending on how he's performing and how badly a team needs his skills), but we're not there right now.


You just contradicted yourself in that post
Jul. 10, 2020 at 9:18 a.m.
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A few better defenseman and their returns last year Dylan Demelo 3rd round pick, Derek Forbort 4th round pick, Erik Gustafson 3rd round pick,

A few better defenseman and their trade returns last year Demelo 3rd, Gustafson 3rd, Forbort 4th, Marino conditional 6th (yikes), Mike Reilly very comparable player ahl player and 5th


- DeMelo, Forbort and Gustafsson were all pending UFA's (rentals), Benning is an RFA thus under team control.
- Marino was a college player and pending UFA who refused to sign with the Oilers.
- Reilly isn't a similar player if you look at results.

Apples, meet Oranges.
Jul. 10, 2020 at 9:18 a.m.
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You just contradicted yourself in that post


How so? I've never argued that Khaira is worth a 2nd - you're the one that suggested that
Jul. 10, 2020 at 9:23 a.m.
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Pick values fluctuate during the year. They are highest leading up to the draft and lowest at the deadline. A smart GM takes advantage.

I don't think Khaira gets a 2nd leading up to the draft. At the deadline maybe (depending on how he's performing and how badly a team needs his skills), but we're not there right now.


Similar players to Khara traded at the deadline Nick Cousins 4th better player lower cap #, Nate Thompson 5th, Cody Eakin 4th better player but higher cap #, Chandler Stephenson 5th,
 
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