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TB doesnt want to be OS by any team

Created by: TheDuminator
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 10, 2020
Published: Jul. 10, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
They decide to trade some assets to MTL who confirmed that they will OS them or trade for them...

As everyone know... TB need to clean 16M of the book before next December
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,400,000
6$6,000,000
2$900,000
6$6,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Fleury, Cale
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
  3. Poehling, Ryan
  4. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Cirelli, Anthony
  2. Sergachev, Mikhail
Additional Details:
As they get sign them for good... trading them is the only way
2.
TBL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
EDM
  1. Killorn, Alex
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$81,138,332$0$1,370,000$361,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
G
UFA - 8
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
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$771,666$771,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 10:43 a.m.
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holy sh*t habs fan. That barley gets you Sergachev let alone Cirelli
Jul. 10, 2020 at 10:43 a.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Why would Montréal loose all those assets when then can just make offert sheets?

Also, what is the point of trading for Poolparty if tou cant play him?
Jul. 10, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Why would Montréal loose all those assets when then can just make offert sheets?

Also, what is the point of trading for Poolparty if tou cant play him?


Poolp is only the get Killhorn of the book.. and show that 16M is needed to fit under the cap
Jul. 10, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: keep_ups12
holy sh*t habs fan. That barley gets you Sergachev let alone Cirelli


READ: If they get offer sheet on both players that they can't match... they would get in total: 2x1st, 2xnd, 1 3rd.
I think this return is more valuable than all those picks for today and future fix
Jul. 10, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.
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I like the Oilers trade. However, if the Oilers did this, they'd have to shed some of their own cap to make it work. Not saying that TB would take any back, more they'd have to send Russell, Neal, etc. somewhere else. They don't have the space to take on Killorn without it. If the Oilers were to do that, I think that's a very fair trade
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Jul. 10, 2020 at 10:54 a.m.
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No way Sergachev is traded to Montreal after being dealt by them, Sergachev wasn't a happy camper. Can't see either Cirelli or Sergachev being dealt within the division. Both probably go west somewhere if they were to be dealt. Montreal isn't happening.
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Jul. 10, 2020 at 11:11 a.m.
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I’m so confused, that trade is awful. I’m sure TB would rather just let teams O/S them. They’d get more value out of the two O/S than that. If both players got O/S for their value, they’d get 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds. I get they’d probably want some roster players back but there are way better deals out there than this.
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Jul. 10, 2020 at 11:11 a.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
READ: If they get offer sheet on both players that they can't match... they would get in total: 2x1st, 2xnd, 1 3rd.
I think this return is more valuable than all those picks for today and future fix


why would Tampa sign the players then trade them? they lose all leverage bc once the player is signed teams know they have to flip them. They would be smarter to see if a team offersheets them and if they dont the can sign both players for less than expected....this return isn't good for either player and 7m in Mon is roughly 5.5m in Tampa (tax%)
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Jul. 10, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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Quoting: tsyls
I’m so confused, that trade is awful. I’m sure TB would rather just let teams O/S them. They’d get more value out of the two O/S than that.


I don't agree:
Serg OS compensation would be: 1st, 2nd, 3rd = Fleury (Value= to a 22OA pick NHL ready), Lehky worth 2nd +3rd(2nd round pick valuable Suspect unproven)
Cirelli OS Com 1st OK, 2nd OK at 6M+
Jul. 10, 2020 at 11:17 a.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
why would Tampa sign the players then trade them? they lose all leverage bc once the player is signed teams know they have to flip them. They would be smarter to see if a team offersheets them and if they dont the can sign both players for less than expected....this return isn't good for either player and 7m in Mon is roughly 5.5m in Tampa (tax%)


Seriously... open your mind bros!
I have insert their salary value to better image the total dollar that TB are in hell with... Trade RFA player... than MTL sign them at that value +/-
Jul. 10, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
No way Sergachev is traded to Montreal after being dealt by them, Sergachev wasn't a happy camper. Can't see either Cirelli or Sergachev being dealt within the division. Both probably go west somewhere if they were to be dealt. Montreal isn't happening.


I do Agree, but he as No trading power right now... and with Webby addition and telling him to lay top minutes next to him might convince him to stay... and he can speak Russian with Romanov tears of joy
Jul. 10, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: DomCholette
Seriously... open your mind bros!
I have insert their salary value to better image the total dollar that TB are in hell with... Trade RFA player... than MTL sign them at that value +/-


Bros open your mind

Tampa is a tax free state so they can take less and make the same. Tampa is year in and year out a cup contender and its also tampa bay not Canada. if you honestly think either player would leave tampa to make an extra 200k youre wrong... idk how else to explain to you that a) the values you are offering are trash b) bc you offer an offersheet doesn't mean aplayers has to sign it.... im sure that's no too hard to understand
Jul. 10, 2020 at 11:37 a.m.
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300k in cap space, 1.3 mil in bonouses, and a 21 man roster does not work. 1 injury and your playing down a guy? And tampa can't afford any overages into next years cap from bonouses
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Jul. 10, 2020 at 12:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Bros open your mind

Tampa is a tax free state so they can take less and make the same. Tampa is year in and year out a cup contender and its also tampa bay not Canada. if you honestly think either player would leave tampa to make an extra 200k youre wrong... idk how else to explain to you that a) the values you are offering are trash b) bc you offer an offersheet doesn't mean aplayers has to sign it.... im sure that's no too hard to understand


It's about your sign and trade... that I was refering that your comment as no sense
Jul. 10, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.
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MTL takes it and runs
Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:27 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
It's about your sign and trade... that I was refering that your comment as no sense


why would they sign then trade? again they lose leverage? a team would either make an offersheet for a ridiculous price which would translate into multiple 1st round picks or tampa signs them... its just silly to think Tampa would agree to sign them for a great value them trade them away for pennies on the dollar...
Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
It's about your sign and trade... that I was refering that your comment as no sense


ill explain better.... Tampa will have no issue trading Killorn Palat Johnson or Gourde. all players that are making close to the 6m you "signed" Cirelli and Sergachev for. now lets use logic. would you rather have Sergachev and cirelli for 6m each or any one of Killorn Palat Johnson or Gourde for slightly less? Tampa is trying to win now so late 1st round picks and prospects only go so far..... so again ill ask you why does Tampa even consider doing this... even if they get cracked over the head and trade killorn Palat Johnson or Gourde for 2nd-4th round picks (worst case) why trade 2c and a top defender when you don't have to
Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
ill explain better.... Tampa will have no issue trading Killorn Palat Johnson or Gourde. all players that are making close to the 6m you "signed" Cirelli and Sergachev for. now lets use logic. would you rather have Sergachev and cirelli for 6m each or any one of Killorn Palat Johnson or Gourde for slightly less? Tampa is trying to win now so late 1st round picks and prospects only go so far..... so again ill ask you why does Tampa even consider doing this... even if they get cracked over the head and trade killorn Palat Johnson or Gourde for 2nd-4th round picks (worst case) why trade 2c and a top defender when you don't have to


What part of NTC you don't unserstand
Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
What part of NTC you don't unserstand


haha so nobody with a NTC has ever been traded? interesting take. maybe look up what type of NTC each player has or what exactly it means and you'll have your answer
Jul. 11, 2020 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
haha so nobody with a NTC has ever been traded? interesting take. maybe look up what type of NTC each player has or what exactly it means and you'll have your answer


Done it several time... only one would have a small opening and the other are at 100% until 22-23
 
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