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Marner To Carolina

Created by: AnalyticsGeek
Team: 2021-22 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 10, 2020
Published: Jul. 10, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
I've seen a lot of Leaf fans suggest that they should trade Marner for Pesce, and while I understand the purpose of it, I'm not sure it'll work. Carolina needs cap space to resign Svechnikov (likely 9-10 million), Necas (7-8 million) and Suzuki. Marner's cap hit is quite a large one as well, so I am going to try and make a team that fits all those guys while being cap compliant.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$9,500,000
1$1,850,000
1$900,000
7$4,000,000
2$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$10,500,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$1,500,000
3$3,850,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
2.
CAR
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Marner, Mitchell ($1,893,000 retained)
  3. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
3.
CAR
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
4.
CAR
    Seattle Expansion Draft
    VGK
    1. Staal, Jordan
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (CAR)
    5.
    CAR
    1. Roy, Matt [RFA Rights]
    LAK
    1. Foegele, Warren [RFA Rights]
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (CAR)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the NYR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the TOR
    2021
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the STL
    2022
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    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$83,000,000$77,723,582$0$1,150,000$5,276,418

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,400,000$5,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $8,460,250$8,460,250
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $9,010,000$9,010,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    $1,850,000$1,850,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $863,333$863,333
    C
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    $800,000$800,000
    LW, C
    UFA
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    $800,000$800,000
    C
    UFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 7
    $3,850,000$3,850,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,050,000$4,050,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $900,000$900,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $925,000$925,000
    C
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $925,000$925,000
    RD
    RFA

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    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:45 p.m.
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    @canesfan3030 @Hockyluv21 @ecupirate07 @TWOminutes4surging @jslongo @Caniac2000 @nbass @Dan10900 @yeetmaster

    Obviously a highly unlikely scenario, but what'd you guys think of this team? Are they cup worthy?
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
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    Stop. Not enough.
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    @canesfan3030 @Hockyluv21 @ecupirate07 @TWOminutes4surging @jslongo @Caniac2000 @nbass @Dan10900 @yeetmaster

    Obviously a highly unlikely scenario, but what'd you guys think of this team? Are they cup worthy?


    That's highway robbery for Carolina LMAO. I'd do it walking away. Marner's fantastic: switch the 1st and maybe add Geekie to the return and it'll be more even.
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    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:47 p.m.
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    I feel like I should just block this account at this point. Every post is just so troll
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    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:47 p.m.
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    guy must have the cyber bullying hotline on speed dial by now
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    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:48 p.m.
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    i think so
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    That's highway robbery for Carolina LMAO. I'd do it walking away. Marner's fantastic: switch the 1st and maybe add Geekie to the return and it'll be more even.


    Thanks for letting me know your thoughts. I think Marner for Pesce 1 for 1 is fair, but I decided to add a bit more value from Toronto just to be safe.
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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    i dont know if i am more offended by the trade, or the idea that Necas is getting 7-8 million
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I feel like I should just block this account at this point. Every post is just so troll


    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.


    Would you rather be a troll or a guy who doesnt have the slightest clue whats hes talking about?
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    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:56 p.m.
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    I'm done with this drivel.

    Far too long coming but, that is why we have the ignore button I suppose.

    3, 2, 1..... and...... BLOCKED!!
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    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:57 p.m.
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    Carolina people certainly do like to over value Pesce... but this is absolutely laughable... a 90+ point forward, a high end D prospect, and a 1st rd pick for Carolinas current 3rd pairing RD. Seriously?!?
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:59 p.m.
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    Oooofffff

    For that package, I’d expect Hamilton Necas and a 2nd. AT LEAST
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:00 p.m.
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    that is interesting, maybe a lot more than what pesce is worth
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.


    Nylander = Pesce

    So we’re gift wrapping our best prospect, AND a first? As well as Marner? No way man.
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sean4417
    Carolina people certainly do like to over value Pesce... but this is absolutely laughable... a 90+ point forward, a high end D prospect, and a 1st rd pick for Carolinas current 3rd pairing RD. Seriously?!?


    3rd pairing? good lord he would be first pairing if not for slavin and hamilton
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:02 p.m.
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    Maybe Hamilton+ gets that
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:05 p.m.
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    3rd pairing? good lord he would be first pairing if not for slavin and hamilton


    Pesce has shown the ability to be a 2nd pairing RD... still not worth that haul from Toronto. FYI - a 3rd pairing dman getting less minutes and matchups vs 3rd and 4th lines that looks good in that role quite often gets hyped as 'should be a top pairing but isnt' because of the skewed appearance.
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:07 p.m.
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    this scenario is as likely as Pesce and Wallmark for Kapanen and Brown 'rumor.'

    we all know this is a joke, right? We would have to score 8 goals a night with the goalie tandem.
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.


    But like come on, Pesce is good but not to that level of value. I'm a lot more of a Canes fan then I am of a Leafs fan. This is so incredibly lopsided
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    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sean4417
    Pesce has shown the ability to be a 2nd pairing RD... still not worth that haul from Toronto. FYI - a 3rd pairing dman getting less minutes and matchups vs 3rd and 4th lines that looks good in that role quite often gets hyped as 'should be a top pairing but isnt' because of the skewed appearance.


    he has shown that he could be top pairing, but with hamilton and slavin being them you cant justify him going above slavin. he fits well where he was playing
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.


    maybe just trade Marner for who he is... a 94 point player at 22 and just getting better... not a subpar top 6 player

    wat i want to know is why do u rate him so low? your username suggests your a huge fan of him and fans usually overvalue their players (me as well)
    but u always seem to trade him for half his actual value
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    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: nbass
    he has shown that he could be top pairing, but with hamilton and slavin being them you cant justify him going above slavin. he fits well where he was playing


    you can prop up Pesce all you want... still isnt worth a 90 pt winger, a high end prospect and a 1st rd pick. Pesce aint Lidstrom aftter all.
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    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:25 p.m.
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    Stop. Not enough.


    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I feel like I should just block this account at this point. Every post is just so troll


    Quoting: vr1995
    Would you rather be a troll or a guy who doesnt have the slightest clue whats hes talking about?


    Quoting: Mitch1_6
    Oooofffff

    For that package, I’d expect Hamilton Necas and a 2nd. AT LEAST


    People really cant grasp the concept that they allow 13 year old kids on this site.
    Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
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    Habs pass, they don't really need LD next year: Romanov, Mete and Chariot,
    Maybe Kulak and a 7th for Skjei... and then Mete plays 3rd pair RD
     
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