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1 year deal to Serg and Cernak

Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 11, 2020
Published: Jul. 11, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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1$1,750,000
3$4,750,000
1$3,250,000
1$900,000
1$750,000
1$950,000
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1$900,000
1$900,000
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1.
TBL
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
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TB frees up cap and gets a late 3rd rounder
SJS
  1. Johnson, Tyler
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Johnson gets closer to home, waives his NTC to Seattle in the 2021 offseason
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TBL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (NSH)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (NSH)
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3rd becomes 2nd if Killorn scores 25 in 20-21 and IF NSH makes it to the 2nd round of the SCP
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2020
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22$81,500,000$81,484,257$0$500,000$15,743
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UFA - 4
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UFA - 2
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RW
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UFA - 7
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RW, LW
UFA - 1
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C, LW
UFA - 3
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NTC
UFA - 2
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NTC
UFA - 5
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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RD
UFA - 3
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UFA - 8
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NTC
UFA - 6
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LD/RD
UFA - 3
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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Jul. 11, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
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I think Killorn can fetch two 2nds. He's a similar player to JT Miller.

Tyler Johnson doesn't get that return though. Unless you're taking Jack Johnson back. His cap hit is too high and he has too much term.

It's gonna cost Tampa to move him out if they don't retain.
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Jul. 11, 2020 at 7:59 p.m.
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I think Killorn can fetch two 2nds. He's a similar player to JT Miller.

Tyler Johnson doesn't get that return though. Unless you're taking Jack Johnson back. His cap hit is too high and he has too much term.

It's gonna cost Tampa to move him out if they don't retain.


Johnson is certainly overpaid quite a bit, but he doesn't have negative value. He scored 29 in 18-19 after all. I still think he can be a 20 ish goal scorer. Maybe add something like a 5th rounder going to TB if he doesn't get 15 goals but yeah
Jul. 11, 2020 at 8:05 p.m.
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Johnson is certainly overpaid quite a bit, but he doesn't have negative value. He scored 29 in 18-19 after all. I still think he can be a 20 ish goal scorer. Maybe add something like a 5th rounder going to TB if he doesn't get 15 goals but yeah


No, he's gonna cost to move. He has a NTC and can basically pick where he is willing to be moved (I'm guessing it will be a very limited list if anything at all).

The team(s) that they try to trade him to will know this. Tampa doesn't really have much of an option unless they're willing to let an RFA walk.

Also the team that starts trying to trade a player almost always gets the worse end of the deal.

Add to that the Penguins are in a cap crunch along with every other contending team (aside from Colorado).

Would the NYR take 4 years of Johnson at 5M for free?
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Jul. 11, 2020 at 8:15 p.m.
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I'd throw a $3.75 to 4.226M 1yr offer sheet at Sergachev. His comparable are Zach Werenski (3 years, $5 million) and Charlie McAvoy (3 years, $4.9 million) when they came off their ELC's.

You'd be forced to match or lose him for only a 2nd round pick. Now your cap space is blown.
Jul. 11, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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Johnson is certainly overpaid quite a bit, but he doesn't have negative value. He scored 29 in 18-19 after all. I still think he can be a 20 ish goal scorer. Maybe add something like a 5th rounder going to TB if he doesn't get 15 goals but yeah


You are price in pre-COVID flat cap world pricing. How many teams have the cap space to take on 5M over the next 4 years? Hint: it's 4 as Colorado needs their cap space in 2 years.
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Jul. 11, 2020 at 8:24 p.m.
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No, he's gonna cost to move. He has a NTC and can basically pick where he is willing to be moved (I'm guessing it will be a very limited list if anything at all).

The team(s) that they try to trade him to will know this. Tampa doesn't really have much of an option unless they're willing to let an RFA walk.

Also the team that starts trying to trade a player almost always gets the worse end of the deal.

Add to that the Penguins are in a cap crunch along with every other contending team (aside from Colorado).

Would the NYR take 4 years of Johnson at 5M for free?


Agree with everything except NYR need the cap space for Anthony Deangelo, Georgiev plus their other RFA and that's letting their UFA Fast go.
Jul. 11, 2020 at 8:35 p.m.
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No, he's gonna cost to move. He has a NTC and can basically pick where he is willing to be moved (I'm guessing it will be a very limited list if anything at all).

The team(s) that they try to trade him to will know this. Tampa doesn't really have much of an option unless they're willing to let an RFA walk.

Also the team that starts trying to trade a player almost always gets the worse end of the deal.

Add to that the Penguins are in a cap crunch along with every other contending team (aside from Colorado).

Would the NYR take 4 years of Johnson at 5M for free?


No but not because for a 3rd it's not good, it's because he doesn't fit us
Jul. 11, 2020 at 8:35 p.m.
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I'd throw a $3.75 to 4.226M 1yr offer sheet at Sergachev. His comparable are Zach Werenski (3 years, $5 million) and Charlie McAvoy (3 years, $4.9 million) when they came off their ELC's.

You'd be forced to match or lose him for only a 2nd round pick. Now your cap space is blown.


Brisebois really screwed TB with that Gourde contract and NTC
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Jul. 11, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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This is the definiton of a fan being hopeful. Good luck TB lol
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Jul. 11, 2020 at 9:12 p.m.
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No but not because for a 3rd it's not good, it's because he doesn't fit us


And he fits Pittsburgh who's in a similar cap situation as NYR? They aren't gonna pay him 5M to play on the 3rd and 4th line. They don't have the cap space.
Jul. 11, 2020 at 9:13 p.m.
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Agree with everything except NYR need the cap space for Anthony Deangelo, Georgiev plus their other RFA and that's letting their UFA Fast go.


The Penguins need to sign their goalies and then they won't have any cap space either. Both teams are in similar situations.
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And he fits Pittsburgh who's in a similar cap situation as NYR? They aren't gonna pay him 5M to play on the 3rd and 4th line. They don't have the cap space.


1st, that's in SJ, and they badly lack secondary scoring so...
Jul. 11, 2020 at 9:29 p.m.
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1st, that's in SJ, and they badly lack secondary scoring so...


You don't pay 5M for 20 goals of secondary scoring. They may as well pick up Andreas Johnsson for 1.6M cheaper which I also don't think they do.

You gotta look at what a team needs before you post.
Jul. 11, 2020 at 9:42 p.m.
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1st, that's in SJ, and they badly lack secondary scoring so...


Doesn't matter who it is: NYR or SJ both don't have the cap space to take on 4 year term at $5M. And I doubt he waives his NTC because of Florida tax advantages alone not to mention the fact his long-time girlfriend, Marissa Mazzolini, is not letting him go to California to live ever since a girl claimed on live TV (Kimmel removed the video from YouTube otherwise I'd send you there) to be hooking up with him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3262483/Woman-look-alike-NHL-star-Tyler-Johnson-s-girlfriend-claims-affair-hockey-player-TV-appearance-denies-accusation.html
Jul. 11, 2020 at 10:13 p.m.
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both teams decline.

SJS are rebuilding, they aren't trading picks for aging players who are over paid and under productive.

And NSH will use that cap space to resign Smith before wasting it on Killorn.
Jul. 11, 2020 at 10:31 p.m.
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I found the best article to articulate Tampa's likely outcome:

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The reality of the situation, is that if one or more of the RFAs push for a longer term deal or a full value bridge deal, and the players with No Trade Clauses choose to exercise their rights to refuse a trade, the Lightning may be forced to trade Sergachev or Cirelli. The return for either player could be good, but the Lightning would also have less leverage with the salary cap hanging over their heads.

When dealing with a hard salary cap system, losing players you don’t want to part with (*cough* J.T. Miller *cough*) is a part of the bargain. And so it is a situation that the Lightning will have to be prepared to deal with if it comes to pass. The offer sheet compensation gives us some idea of what the compensation could look like in a trade. Below are some sample contracts that were signed by comparable players and the draft pick compensation that would be owed to the Lightning if they refused to match such an offer sheet.

3 Years, $5 million (Zach Werenski) - 1st round pick, 3rd round pick
6 years, $5.5 million (Travis Konecny) - 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick
6 years, $6.75 million (Ivan Provorov) - 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick

This is certainly the scenario I least want to see happen. But it is a scenario that is within the realm of possibilities and we as fans should be prepared for that possibility. It would suck to lose either Sergachev or Cirelli. Both are valuable young players that could be big parts of the Lightning’s core moving forward. But being valuable makes it harder for the team to hang on to them through this salary cap crunch.
Jul. 12, 2020 at 8:28 a.m.
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You are price in pre-COVID flat cap world pricing. How many teams have the cap space to take on 5M over the next 4 years? Hint: it's 4 as Colorado needs their cap space in 2 years.


Colorado can afford to take that, but why would they want to? There are other options via trade of FA that are likely preferable.

In terms of Tampa, Cirelli is likely the guy they'd be interested in. If Sakic wanted to throw an offer sheet at him, cap constraints wouldn't be the thing that stopped him. I'd be surprised if it happened due to stigma and all that, but wouldn't be surprised if the Avs at least called and checked on his availability via trade.
 
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