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NYR Big Trade

Created by: Dave31
Team: 2020-21 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 13, 2020
Published: Jul. 13, 2020
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A massive trade with NYR could solve almost all of the Sharks issues, as well as free up some serious cap for the Rangers who need to sign Kakko, Fox, Georgiev, and DeAngelo within the next couple years at a flat cap. Strome for a 1st could be a one for one deal to free up a ton of cap space for NYR. Georgiev for Merkley and a 3rd would be a solid deal considering NYR doesn't need to go into next year with three goalies and Merkley could add to their already stacked young blue line. Sorensen for Lemieux would be a roster player trade for both teams at a low cap hit (Sorensen with more scoring potential). As well, give NYR Korenar just so they have another young 3rd string goalie to play in the AHL and develop. Sharks could then sign Simmonds and Maroon to fill out the lineup and bring in some much needed physicality.

*I originally had Shesterkin in the trade but switched it to Georgiev to make it more fair*
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
2$3,000,000
4$4,800,000
3$3,500,000
2$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
1$800,000
2$1,000,000
2$3,000,000
Trades
SJS
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [RFA Rights]
  2. Lemieux, Brendan [RFA Rights]
  3. Strome, Ryan [RFA Rights]
NYR
  1. Korenar, Josef
  2. Merkley, Ryan
  3. Sörensen, Marcus
  4. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
  5. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$74,280,000$0$212,500$7,220,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$4,800,000$4,800,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
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UFA - 6
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:02 p.m.
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Sorry, but this isn't happening. The value you're offering is actually pretty solid but Igor Shesterkin is our goalie of the future and he's untouchable.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:04 p.m.
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NY won’t trade Igor we have a better and much cheaper oppertunity with Georgiev
I like Strome and TBL 1st is fair value but people will bash that trade
I really would keep Sorenson for his feisty grit and upside over lemieux but I like the bold moves
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:06 p.m.
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Sorry, but this isn't happening. The value you're offering is actually pretty solid but Igor Shesterkin is our goalie of the future and he's untouchable.


Same trade but Georgiev instead then? Hell, with our current goaltending Im not picky Ill take either lol
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:06 p.m.
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Not even close dude. Shesty is probably the one piece who is untouchable on our entire roster. We're not giving up our starting goaltender for at least the next decade. Especially for that. For it to be considered it'd have to be a ridiculous overpay that you guys would never do. Plus we're not giving up on Lemieux because he's our only forward that provides some extra grit.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
NY won’t trade Igor we have a better and much cheaper oppertunity with Georgiev
I like Strome and TBL 1st is fair value but people will bash that trade
I really would keep Sorenson for his feisty grit and upside over lemieux but I like the bold moves


I would do the same trade with Georgiev instead of Igor then if NYR would accept, we just need a capable 1a/1b goalie
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
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I would do the same trade with Georgiev instead of Igor then if NYR would accept, we just need a capable 1a/1b goalie


I would offer sj 20 2nd and a 3rd and see where those talks go but I’d keep Merkley he is our only offensive d talent and I see Boyle skills in him
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
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This is not even close to being accepted by either team.
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Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:11 p.m.
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Not even close dude. Shesty is probably the one piece who is untouchable on our entire roster. We're not giving up our starting goaltender for at least the next decade. Especially for that. For it to be considered it'd have to be a ridiculous overpay that you guys would never do. Plus we're not giving up on Lemieux because he's our only forward that provides some extra grit.


Same trade with Georgiev instead of Igor then? Theres no reason for NYR to go into next year with three goalies they gotta move one and get something while they can
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.
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What is this?

Sörensen, Marcus
Merkley, Ryan
Korenar, Josef
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.
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What is this?

Sörensen, Marcus
Merkley, Ryan
Korenar, Josef


Its a cheap roster player with scoring potential to fill a spot next year, an elite defensive prospect that was a 1st round pick recently, and 3rd string goalie to develop in the AHL. More importantly, its no one with a cap hit so the Rangers can focus on signing the 4 guys that are gonna need massive contracts real soon.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.
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gross, sharks decline easy
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Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
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Its a cheap roster player with scoring potential to fill a spot next year, an elite defensive prospect that was a 1st round pick recently, and 3rd string goalie to develop in the AHL. More importantly, its no one with a cap hit so the Rangers can focus on signing the 4 guys that are gonna need massive contracts real soon.


As far as I'm concerned Georgie isn't getting a massive contract, he's getting bridged. Fox and Kakko have two more years on their deals, plus the Shattenkirk buyout drops, plus we lose Staal, Hanks and Smiths contract after next year so it's not an issue. Plus Merkely wouldn't even fit in our right side long term with Trouba, Fox and Nils Lundkvist. This deal doesn't really help us. If Sorensen was so good why wouldn't you keep him when you guys are struggling to score far more than we are.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:35 p.m.
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Same trade with Georgiev instead of Igor then? Theres no reason for NYR to go into next year with three goalies they gotta move one and get something while they can


Buyouts are a thing that exist, that we can do and have done. It's better than selling low or paying to get rid of contracts.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:45 p.m.
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Buyouts are a thing that exist, that we can do and have done. It's better than selling low or paying to get rid of contracts.


You’re right that Georgiev will get a bridge one way or another, but what do you think Fox Deangelo and Kakko are gonna be looking at here? With Krieders contract kicking in it’s not gonna be easy, I don’t see a world where you can fit in Strome as well so I think he’s gonna have to be moved this off season somewhere and I doubt the market for him is gonna be any better than this offer, especially with a flat cap for the next couple years. Also I never said Sorenson was “so good” I said he was a cheap roster player so you would have someone to fill a spot for next year with some potential, then he would be off your books the next year so you can focus on the RFAs. It makes no sense to think that a buyout would be a better solution than getting quality assets like a 1st and Merkley, at the absolute least you could flip them.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:45 p.m.
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What this boils down to is:

Georgiev = Sorensen, Korenar, 2020 1st (TBL) 2021 3rd (PIT)

NO
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
What this boils down to is:

Georgiev = Sorensen, Korenar, 2020 1st (TBL) 2021 3rd (PIT)

NO


Why would you not be acknowledging Strome in this trade? Dude just put up 59 points in 70 games
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:51 p.m.
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Why would you not be acknowledging Strome in this trade? Dude just put up 59 points in 70 games


That's why I said that's what the trade boils down to. Strome + Lemieux = Merkley (and maybe 2021 3rd (PIT))

Is Georgiev worth what is left? Not even close imo. He's worth our 2020 2nd at the absolute most.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 3:53 p.m.
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You’re right that Georgiev will get a bridge one way or another, but what do you think Fox Deangelo and Kakko are gonna be looking at here? With Krieders contract kicking in it’s not gonna be easy, I don’t see a world where you can fit in Strome as well so I think he’s gonna have to be moved this off season somewhere and I doubt the market for him is gonna be any better than this offer, especially with a flat cap for the next couple years. Also I never said Sorenson was “so good” I said he was a cheap roster player so you would have someone to fill a spot for next year with some potential, then he would be off your books the next year so you can focus on the RFAs. It makes no sense to think that a buyout would be a better solution than getting quality assets like a 1st and Merkley, at the absolute least you could flip them.


1. Rangers aren't moving Nils, Lindgren, Fox and Miller are gonna end up being our top 4 in a few years.

2. Have to think those extensions look something like this:
$9.5 mil x 7 Mika
$6.5 mil x 6 Shesty
$7.5 mil x 6 Kakko (hoping he develops)
$5.25 mil x 5 Buch
$4 mil x 4 Lindgren
$8 mil x 8 Fox
$4.625 mil x3 Chytil
(just guesses some may be too high/low, but that's $45.375 mil)

That summer we'll have $52.8 mil in cap space. With the rest of our prospects I think we'll be fine. We've only got $28.7 mil on the books for that year.

I have a feeling Deangelo and Strome will get moved at some point though. I'd do the edited version of the trade now versus before because it doesn't include Shesty.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.
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I mean

I think If you swap out Korenar/Sorensen for Gregor it might work.
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Jul. 13, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.
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That's why I said that's what the trade boils down to. Strome + Lemieux = Merkley (and maybe 2021 3rd (PIT))

Is Georgiev worth what is left? Not even close imo. He's worth our 2020 2nd at the absolute most.


Like I mentioned in the description, I see it as Strome for our 1st (and maybe Korenar). I think both teams would agree on that being fair. I do believe that a goalie would be worth giving up Merkley right now, considering we have enough offensive D men and desperately need help in net. Sorensen and a 3rd for Lemieux would be fair as well for both teams, but thats just a kicker. I see your point about it being a lot to give up on the Sharks side, but getting a top 6 forward and a legitimate goalie is way more important for the Sharks right now than picks and prospects
Jul. 13, 2020 at 4:17 p.m.
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1. Rangers aren't moving Nils, Lindgren, Fox and Miller are gonna end up being our top 4 in a few years.

2. Have to think those extensions look something like this:
$9.5 mil x 7 Mika
$6.5 mil x 6 Shesty
$7.5 mil x 6 Kakko (hoping he develops)
$5.25 mil x 5 Buch
$4 mil x 4 Lindgren
$8 mil x 8 Fox
$4.625 mil x3 Chytil
(just guesses some may be too high/low, but that's $45.375 mil)

That summer we'll have $52.8 mil in cap space. With the rest of our prospects I think we'll be fine. We've only got $28.7 mil on the books for that year.

I have a feeling Deangelo and Strome will get moved at some point though. I'd do the edited version of the trade now versus before because it doesn't include Shesty.


Ya that all looks almost exactly how I would imagine it as well, but I had Deangelo getting about $6.5 too because you'd have to think he earned it this year right? I guess my point is if you know that Strome is gonna get moved, I would think this offer would be pretty appealing. And you know you don't need three goalies going into next year, so why not get a good return while you can right? Merkley and a 1st have a ton of value if you wanted to flip them, seems like a win win
Jul. 13, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.
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Like I mentioned in the description, I see it as Strome for our 1st (and maybe Korenar). I think both teams would agree on that being fair. I do believe that a goalie would be worth giving up Merkley right now, considering we have enough offensive D men and desperately need help in net. Sorensen and a 3rd for Lemieux would be fair as well for both teams, but thats just a kicker. I see your point about it being a lot to give up on the Sharks side, but getting a top 6 forward and a legitimate goalie is way more important for the Sharks right now than picks and prospects


I mean I'd disagree about Strome's value being a 1st and Korenar, but I digress. The problem is that we really don't need, or really even want Lemieux. We'd rather have Howden who can pay a 3C role than Lemieux who doesn't really fix any of our issues and is highly valued by NYR. But even if Strome's value is worth a first, Georgiev is nowhere near as valuable as Merkley is to San Jose. I'm totally willing to give up Sorensen and Korenar, but Merkley is basically off limits unless he's assumed to be worth Strome's value. He's literally our best prospect.

Strome and Georgiev are great trade targets and I'd love to have them, but that's way too much for San Jose to get rid of.
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Jul. 13, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.
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I mean

I think If you swap out Korenar/Sorensen for Gregor it might work.


Hell I would throw in Gregor along with them if it got it done
Jul. 13, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.
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Ya that all looks almost exactly how I would imagine it as well, but I had Deangelo getting about $6.5 too because you'd have to think he earned it this year right? I guess my point is if you know that Strome is gonna get moved, I would think this offer would be pretty appealing. And you know you don't need three goalies going into next year, so why not get a good return while you can right? Merkley and a 1st have a ton of value if you wanted to flip them, seems like a win win


Yeah I realized you changed the trade afterwards. I think it helps both teams out in the respect. Gives you guys a solid goalie option, plus Strome who in your top 6 should still be a 50 point player at the min. The 1st is essentially the second 2nd we would want for Georgie and Strome. Leaves us cap room and some extra maneuvering to go out and make another move or something.
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Jul. 13, 2020 at 4:23 p.m.
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I mean I'd disagree about Strome's value being a 1st and Korenar, but I digress. The problem is that we really don't need, or really even want Lemieux. We'd rather have Howden who can pay a 3C role than Lemieux who doesn't really fix any of our issues and is highly valued by NYR. But even if Strome's value is worth a first, Georgiev is nowhere near as valuable as Merkley is to San Jose. I'm totally willing to give up Sorensen and Korenar, but Merkley is basically off limits unless he's assumed to be worth Strome's value. He's literally our best prospect.

Strome and Georgiev are great trade targets and I'd love to have them, but that's way too much for San Jose to get rid of.


I completely see your point, we have so few prospects that its hard to move our best one. I guess to me it comes down to priorities, and if we are still in "win now" mode or not. Merkley can be incredible, but at the end of the day he's a prospect and is part of a future plan. If we want to win now then we cant focus on the future, and have to do whats best for us in the present and Georgiev and Strome can solve a lot of our current issues. Lemieux is just someone that could give our 4th line some identity and bring some youth to the team, but that part of the trade isn't as crucial. What return would you expect to give up for Strome and Georgiev?
 
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