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Boeser stays - Demgoes

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Team: 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 13, 2020
Published: Jul. 13, 2020
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Benning verified to both Boeser and the media today that BB isn’t being shopped to other teams or even talked about as a trade chip within the club’s management (per TSN). Personally I’m happy this will be put to rest. I’d rather see them hold onto Boeser and try to clear cap space another way.

And the best chip to do that with is Demko if Markstrom re-signs. I’ve posted a version of this trade numerous times so forgive me, but I think it makes a ton of sense for both teams.
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Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.
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I am not trading PK subban, Mark Bergevin....then trades PK

What did you think he was going to say when asked that question? That is the only answer true or not he has to say especially going into the playoffs.
Until canucks make moves to solve their cap hell, this wont be put to rest and will be Brought up again and again this offseason
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.
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I am not trading PK subban, Mark Bergevin....then trades PK

What did you think he was going to say when asked that question? That is the only answer true or not he has to say especially going into the playoffs.
Until canucks make moves to solve their cap hell, this wont be put to rest and will be Brought up again and again this offseason


Not sure if that would be enough to get rid of Eriksson. Depends on how the Red Wings see Demko (when looking at the expanison draft of the SEATTLE CORONAS
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.
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Not sure if that would be enough to get rid of Eriksson. Depends on how the Red Wings see Demko (when looking at the expanison draft of the SEATTLE CORONAS


Teams are going to really grind the Canucks to give up some significant value to take on Eriksson to buy him out, no one is trading to play him.
Demko is very meh and a 2nd isnt enough for a rebuilding team.

I really see Juolevi being sacrificed in a deal to take on Eriksson, the canucks dont have any leverage bc they are desperate to move out around 6m in cap
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
I am not trading PK subban, Mark Bergevin....then trades PK

What did you think he was going to say when asked that question? That is the only answer true or not he has to say especially going into the playoffs.
Until canucks make moves to solve their cap hell, this wont be put to rest and will be Brought up again and again this offseason


I know GM’s will always say they’re sticking with their player and not looking to trade them, but in this case I believe it’s actually true. The rumour was started by a radio show host and makes very little sense for the Canucks unless they get blown away by an offer. Boeser is an important part of their young core and there are other ways to make cap room.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.
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I know GM’s will always say they’re sticking with their player and not looking to trade them, but in this case I believe it’s actually true. The rumour was started by a radio show host and makes very little sense for the Canucks unless they get blown away by an offer. Boeser is an important part of their young core and there are other ways to make cap room.


but it was also build upon with other Vancouver writers saying they hear that internally that the Canucks value Tofolli more than Boeser, there is probably some smoke to that fire.
Benning has a bad track record when it comes to pro scouting (look at all those UFA dead money signings they have now), so that would make me nervous if that is being talked about valuing Tofolli more

IF they do give him that 5x5 type deal, I would be nervous about that Boeser trade down the line
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.
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Teams are going to really grind the Canucks to give up some significant value to take on Eriksson to buy him out, no one is trading to play him.
Demko is very meh and a 2nd isnt enough for a rebuilding team.

I really see Juolevi being sacrificed in a deal to take on Eriksson, the canucks dont have any leverage bc they are desperate to move out around 6m in cap


The difficulty comes with the expansion of the SEATTLE CORONAS and their expansion. Where Juolevi would probably needs to be protected, so picks or players that don't need protection are more attractive
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:39 p.m.
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Teams are going to really grind the Canucks to give up some significant value to take on Eriksson to buy him out, no one is trading to play him.
Demko is very meh and a 2nd isnt enough for a rebuilding team.

I really see Juolevi being sacrificed in a deal to take on Eriksson, the canucks dont have any leverage bc they are desperate to move out around 6m in cap


Demko is a fair bit better than “meh”. Just looking at his SV% doesn’t do him justice considering how bad VAN has been defensively. He showed a lot of promise this year that he’s still on track to be a starter somewhere. And Juolevi could be another piece that is used to move cap, but I’m betting Demko holds more value than him for a rebuilding team in need of a goalie.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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The difficulty comes with the expansion of the SEATTLE CORONAS and their expansion. Where Juolevi would probably needs to be protected, so picks or players that don't need protection are more attractive


I wouldnt be too worried about Detroit protecting Juolevi, Outside of Hronek there isnt anyone really worth protecting so they can protect Juolevi with room to spare
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.
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Demko is a fair bit better than “meh”. Just looking at his SV% doesn’t do him justice considering how bad VAN has been defensively. He showed a lot of promise this year that he’s still on track to be a starter somewhere. And Juolevi could be another piece that is used to move cap, but I’m betting Demko holds more value than him for a rebuilding team in need of a goalie.


He has a 3.06 GA as well, Hes a very meh level back up int he league. I dont see how going to Detroit who is worse defensively is gong to sell them on him. Hes not going to look better in Detroit then.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.
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but it was also build upon with other Vancouver writers saying they hear that internally that the Canucks value Tofolli more than Boeser, there is probably some smoke to that fire.
Benning has a bad track record when it comes to pro scouting (look at all those UFA dead money signings they have now), so that would make me nervous if that is being talked about valuing Tofolli more

IF they do give him that 5x5 type deal, I would be nervous about that Boeser trade down the line


I don’t believe for a second that the team values Toffoli more than Boeser. As I said before, they’d love to have both, but unless another team blows VAN’s doors off with an offer for Boeser, Toffoli won’t be back.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:43 p.m.
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I don’t believe for a second that the team values Toffoli more than Boeser. As I said before, they’d love to have both, but unless another team blows VAN’s doors off with an offer for Boeser, Toffoli won’t be back.


Drance is a pretty damn good writer, he is the one who mentioned it.

Its a weird statement but Hes not the rumour mongering type so there has to be something to that story then if he is willing to mention it
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:47 p.m.
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Not sure if that would be enough to get rid of Eriksson. Depends on how the Red Wings see Demko (when looking at the expanison draft of the SEATTLE CORONAS


I think fan value traditionally has always over-valued goalies in trades. As a fan I would probably be fine with Demko and a 2nd.
Lehner, a minimum 1B only got a 2nd. Grubauer as a minimum 1B with very good numbers cost only a 2nd. Defence and Forwards seem to just get a better return.
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Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.
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Drance is a pretty damn good writer, he is the one who mentioned it.

Its a weird statement but Hes not the rumour mongering type so there has to be something to that story then if he is willing to mention it


I think he took the original rumour and then added the fact that the team likes Toffoli + cap crunch = possibility of trade. Very likely just speculation based on those ideas, because star players will get a team a good return and sports writers know that fans will clamor over that type of story.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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I think he took the original rumour and then added the fact that the team likes Toffoli + cap crunch = possibility of trade. Very likely just speculation based on those ideas, because star players will get a team a good return and sports writers know that fans will clamor over that type of story.


thats what I mean about rumour mongering, he isnt the kind to get into the speculation game for fun. My hunch is that he has heard something and was tossing out the logic from what he understands
Doesnt mean thats whats going to happen....but even with the speculation it has rooted from something that he has heard

The real crunch is the following offseason with Petterson and Hughes coming up. if they dont solve it now they might get themselves into a very bad offersheet scenario. This is a huge offseason for Benning he has to get it right
Jul. 13, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.
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thats what I mean about rumour mongering, he isnt the kind to get into the speculation game for fun. My hunch is that he has heard something and was tossing out the logic from what he understands
Doesnt mean thats whats going to happen....but even with the speculation it has rooted from something that he has heard

The real crunch is the following offseason with Petterson and Hughes coming up. if they dont solve it now they might get themselves into a very bad offersheet scenario. This is a huge offseason for Benning he has to get it right


Agreed. Moving at least one of Eriksson, Beagle or Roussel is essential this offseason, then moving one more or both the next offseason if they want to stay competitive and have room to sign the two kids. Eriksson is the biggest ticket of the three so he gets all the attention, but it can be done multiple ways.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 6:00 p.m.
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Agreed. Moving at least one of Eriksson, Beagle or Roussel is essential this offseason, then moving one more or both the next offseason if they want to stay competitive and have room to sign the two kids. Eriksson is the biggest ticket of the three so he gets all the attention, but it can be done multiple ways.


it can be done but it wont be cheap, especially with it being a flat cap for the next 2 seasons from that they have reported earlier.
Its going to be a very futures heavy price for teams to take on those cap hits. I dont think its as easy as you think it is. Teams arent in the business of doing favours and fair deals with other teams who are against the wall.

Seeing what the cost for Tampa will be on their good players to solve their cap issue is going to tell a lot
Jul. 13, 2020 at 6:16 p.m.
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it can be done but it wont be cheap, especially with it being a flat cap for the next 2 seasons from that they have reported earlier.
Its going to be a very futures heavy price for teams to take on those cap hits. I dont think its as easy as you think it is. Teams arent in the business of doing favours and fair deals with other teams who are against the wall.

Seeing what the cost for Tampa will be on their good players to solve their cap issue is going to tell a lot


I didn’t say it would be easy or cheap, I said there are multiple ways to go about it.
Jul. 13, 2020 at 6:30 p.m.
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I didn’t say it would be easy or cheap, I said there are multiple ways to go about it.


I know you didn’t but more a general statement, multi ways but it’s going to be some pain associated with them
 
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