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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
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  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
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11$81,500,000$54,379,167$1,487,500$3,487,500$27,120,833
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Skinner, Jeff
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Eichel, Jack
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Okposo, Kyle
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Johansson, Marcus
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Boeser, Brock
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McCabe, Jake
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Hutton, Carter
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Dahlin, Rasmus
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Miller, Colin
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Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:15 p.m.
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Wadejos123
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Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
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They probably don't say no. They probably ended the call at Sam.
Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Vancouver


Quoting: Scoob1978
They probably don't say no. They probably ended the call at Sam.


Except a very good argument that I make here is that SR is as good as Boeser... their numbers are VERY similar
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Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:23 p.m.
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Vancouver says no. Reinhart is boosted by Eichel.
Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:24 p.m.
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I do, Sam > Boeser. Better impact and no injury concerns.
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Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Vancouver says no. Reinhart is boosted by Eichel.


Reinhart had similar production away from Eichel, so no.


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Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:26 p.m.
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I think what you really mean is "who is the better player?" Because the point of moving Boeser is so vancouver can get cap room to sign other players, so they aren't going to trade for Reinhart who will cost more. They say no and I also believe Buffalo says no because of their situation.
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Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:27 p.m.
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Quoting: LindyRuffRider
Reinhart had similar production away from Eichel, so no.


No he didnt. Lol
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Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:31 p.m.
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No he didnt. Lol


Yes, he did. lol

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Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:36 p.m.
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Quoting: LindyRuffRider
Yes, he did. lol

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Are we talking about goals or points? Cause this graph says he gets the same number of goals but more points with Eichel.

I thought we were talking about production overall not just goals.
Jul. 14, 2020 at 8:46 p.m.
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Are we talking about goals or points? Cause this graph says he gets the same number of goals but more points with Eichel.

I thought we were talking about production overall not just goals.


Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Are we talking about goals or points? Cause this graph says he gets the same number of goals but more points with Eichel.

I thought we were talking about production overall not just goals.


That's what the graphs literally show. His production w/o Eichel is similar to his production with Eichel.
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Jul. 14, 2020 at 9:10 p.m.
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Quoting: LindyRuffRider
That's what the graphs literally show. His production w/o Eichel is similar to his production with Eichel.


Some people I don't think understand numbers. Sure his points per 60 are higher when he plays with Eichel as they should be but the charts clearly show he produces away from him also. I don't know the answer to this but I would bet that Boeser has more points per 60 playing with Petterson than he does with Jay Beagle as he should. I do know that Draisaitl has more points per 60 playing with McDavid then he does without. Does that mean that Draisatl cannot produce without McDavid of course not.
Jul. 14, 2020 at 9:37 p.m.
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Van says no. I can see buffalo willing to do a mostly side ways trade just to shake it up but van has no reason to do that. I’d consider the players too equal for van to bother with.
Jul. 14, 2020 at 9:43 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Except a very good argument that I make here is that SR is as good as Boeser... their numbers are VERY similar


only one plays with eichel
Jul. 14, 2020 at 11:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
only one plays with eichel


Sure he does but he still puts up good numbers away from him. Not to mention Reinhart is good defensively and has very high IQ. Boeser is a pretty one dimensional player imo, all offense and nothing else
Jul. 15, 2020 at 5:16 a.m.
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Both, as a Buffalo fan, I see no reason to trade Reinhart for Boeser, Sam is at least not injured. Vancouver also has no sense to do this.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 5:18 a.m.
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Leafs_and_Sens_Fan so far the most stupid user of this site tears of joy
Jul. 15, 2020 at 7:17 a.m.
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The only reason Vancouver would entertain moving Boeser is for cap purposes. This trade doesn't help their cap situation at all, so for sure Vancouver says no.

Try trading #8 for Boeser instead.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 7:33 a.m.
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Quoting: dzmets
Some people I don't think understand numbers. Sure his points per 60 are higher when he plays with Eichel as they should be but the charts clearly show he produces away from him also. I don't know the answer to this but I would bet that Boeser has more points per 60 playing with Petterson than he does with Jay Beagle as he should. I do know that Draisaitl has more points per 60 playing with McDavid then he does without. Does that mean that Draisatl cannot produce without McDavid of course not.


This is completely normal, of course. But while Draisaitl scored less without McDavid, so did McDavid without Draisaitl.

McDavid without Draisaitl: 2.74 P/60
Draisaitl without McDavid: 2.75 P/60

The team is far better off with them centering their own lines.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Leon_HART_Draisaitl
This is completely normal, of course. But while Draisaitl scored less without McDavid, so did McDavid without Draisaitl.

McDavid without Draisaitl: 2.74 P/60
Draisaitl without McDavid: 2.75 P/60

The team is far better off with them centering their own lines.


Of course it is only logical that players perform their best when surrounded with the best talent possible
 
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