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Weaponizing cap space 2

Created by: Campabee
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 15, 2020
Published: Jul. 15, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$6,000,000
4$2,000,000
1$850,000
3$850,000
3$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
3$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,500,000
Trades
1.
MTL
VAN
  1. 2020 7th round pick (CHI)
2.
MTL
VAN
  1. Alzner, Karl
Additional Details:
CBO or mutual termination
3.
PHI
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
4.
MTL
  1. Lundmark, Simon [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Mete, Victor
  2. Petry, Jeff
Additional Details:
Petry resigned for 3 years x 5 Mil
5.
MTL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Domi, Max
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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Logo of the CHI
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Logo of the PHI
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2022
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Logo of the VAN
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,352,975$0$3,157,500$6,147,025
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,050,000$1,050,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$771,666$771,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$850,000$850,000
C, LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Jul. 15, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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There is no CBO so it will have to be just a regular buyout for Alzner
Jul. 15, 2020 at 12:53 p.m.
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Droppin nukes out here.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 12:53 p.m.
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There is no CBO so it will have to be just a regular buyout for Alzner


There is still speculation that a CBO could happen in the fall that's why I added it.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.
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There is still speculation that a CBO could happen in the fall that's why I added it.


They already ratified the CBA
Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.
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There is still speculation that a CBO could happen in the fall that's why I added it.


I'm pretty sure they have comprehensively said there won't be CBO's. Gotta imagine that would have been a big concern with the new CBA, and I doubt it would have gotten through this quickly if that wasn't clarrified. All of the owners are firmly against it because it will cost them real world dollars at a time when revenues are low.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:05 p.m.
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If there *were* a CBO (There's not going to be), why wouldn't someone like Vancouver just use it on Loui, which in turn would allow them to keep their depth through 2020-2021 (Which they need if they want to be competitive)?
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
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That's a lot for van to give up for just cap relief considering Sutter only has 1 year left and Roussel isn't even that bad.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.
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That's a lot for van to give up for just cap relief considering Sutter only has 1 year left and Roussel isn't even that bad.


This.

If you want Demko and Virtanen, you're taking Loui
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:24 p.m.
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I'm pretty sure they have comprehensively said there won't be CBO's. Gotta imagine that would have been a big concern with the new CBA, and I doubt it would have gotten through this quickly if that wasn't clarrified. All of the owners are firmly against it because it will cost them real world dollars at a time when revenues are low.


Here is the last thing I heard on the subject it was dated June 30th.

https://eyesonisles.com/2020/06/30/islanders-compliance-buyouts-option-doubt-2020-21/
Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Here is the last thing I heard on the subject it was dated June 30th.

https://eyesonisles.com/2020/06/30/islanders-compliance-buyouts-option-doubt-2020-21/


The CBA has been agreed to since then, without Compliance Buyouts.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.
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There is no CBO so it will have to be just a regular buyout for Alzner


I don't think a regular buyout of Alzner is a smart idea this year.
They are better off buying him out next year and keeping him in the AHL this year.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.
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The CBA has been agreed to since then, without Compliance Buyouts.


I am not sure whether or not the league needs a CBO to be included in the CBA that is why I added it. Either way it really doesn't matter as we still have the cap to bury him in the AHL
Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
I am not sure whether or not the league needs a CBO to be included in the CBA that is why I added it. Either way it really doesn't matter as we still have the cap to bury him in the AHL


Right, that would work this season. How would Habs fans look at the outlook from this in the 21/22 offseason? That's looking tight unless more people walk.
The Domi trade definitely has got to be done first too, if you take on cap dumps no way Buffalo gives 8OA as they'll know you can't afford the contract. Theres some new and interesting ideas in there for sure.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.
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Habs paas on Gostisbehere
Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.
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This.

If you want Demko and Virtanen, you're taking Loui


1. Your not in a position of strength to negotiate this type of deal. We are taking 7.375 Mil cap hit so you can resign some of your top end players and all we are asking is for a player that still has many question marks surrounding his NHL play and a back up goalie your not likely to be able to afford next season even with these moves.

2. Unless your sending an unprotected 1st this year Eriksson isn't being traded anywhere and seeing as you don't have one this year looks like he is your problem
Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
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Right, that would work this season. How would Habs fans look at the outlook from this in the 21/22 offseason? That's looking tight unless more people walk.
The Domi trade definitely has got to be done first too, if you take on cap dumps no way Buffalo gives 8OA as they'll know you can't afford the contract. Theres some new and interesting ideas in there for sure.


Agreed the Domi trade definitely has to happen 1st and Next season Tatar and Weal likely walk and any combination of Chiarot, Armia, Lehkonen, Byron and Virtanen traded but also coming off the books would be 4.375 Mil from Sutter and the 3.472 Mil we already carry over would be more than enough to resign Gallagher at 6 Mil, Danault at 4.5 Mil (I wouldn't want to pay Danault much over 4.5 as he would be a 3rd or 4th line center even though he is probably worth more) and our RFA's to bridge deals.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
1. Your not in a position of strength to negotiate this type of deal. We are taking 7.375 Mil cap hit so you can resign some of your top end players and all we are asking is for a player that still has many question marks surrounding his NHL play and a back up goalie your not likely to be able to afford next season even with these moves.

2. Unless your sending an unprotected 1st this year Eriksson isn't being traded anywhere and seeing as you don't have one this year looks like he is your problem


Never said they were in a position of strength, but a potential starting goaltender for the next 8-10 years, a23yo 20-goal power forward, and a 3rd rd pick is way too much. MTL takes on 7mil for a single season. Sutter will be off the books when Petey, Hughes, and Demko need to be resigned so I doubt he gets traded at all, and of all the bad contracts on the Canucks, Roussel is the most serviceable one.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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Agreed the Domi trade definitely has to happen 1st and Next season Tatar and Weal likely walk and any combination of Chiarot, Armia, Lehkonen, Byron and Virtanen traded but also coming off the books would be 4.375 Mil from Sutter and the 3.472 Mil we already carry over would be more than enough to resign Gallagher at 6 Mil, Danault at 4.5 Mil (I wouldn't want to pay Danault much over 4.5 as he would be a 3rd or 4th line center even though he is probably worth more) and our RFA's to bridge deals.


what if you can't move Domi?

If he can't get medically cleared...this isn't going away by next season.
Who would trade for him and give anything up?
Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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Never said they were in a position of strength, but a potential starting goaltender for the next 8-10 years, a23yo 20-goal power forward, and a 3rd rd pick is way too much. MTL takes on 7mil for a single season. Sutter will be off the books when Petey, Hughes, and Demko need to be resigned so I doubt he gets traded at all, and of all the bad contracts on the Canucks, Roussel is the most serviceable one.


Fine make it Beagle instead of Roussel then! your still never going to get rid of Eriksson without including an unprotected 1st in 2020 and you don't have that so you will have to move others! Also if you want to keep Demko we can take Dipietro instead but I think you would rather keep the younger better goalie under team control for yourselves.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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what if you can't move Domi?

If he can't get medically cleared...this isn't going away by next season.
Who would trade for him and give anything up?


I doubt there would be any issue moving Domi even with his medical condition and the virus continuing into next season. Even if there were reservations the trade could include a condition of adding a future consideration if Domi cannot play next season as well
Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:38 p.m.
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I doubt there would be any issue moving Domi even with his medical condition and the virus continuing into next season. Even if there were reservations the trade could include a condition of adding a future consideration if Domi cannot play next season as well


I wouldn't say never. And if he can't play in the playoffs, that's gonna be a huge issue.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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I wouldn't say never. And if he can't play in the playoffs, that's gonna be a huge issue.


How so? Buffalo wouldn't be getting him until the off season anyway and even then next seasons playoffs are not likely to be affected by the virus even if the start of the season is.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:46 p.m.
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How so? Buffalo wouldn't be getting him until the off season anyway and even then next seasons playoffs are not likely to be affected by the virus even if the start of the season is.


I don't see this as going away, it's the new normal. And people aren't ready to accept that yet.
So if he can't play in the playoffs, than he won't be playing next year considering it's not a long break between them
Jul. 15, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.
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I don't see this as going away, it's the new normal. And people aren't ready to accept that yet.
So if he can't play in the playoffs, than he won't be playing next year considering it's not a long break between them


that is why the future consideration clause could be added
Jul. 15, 2020 at 3:47 p.m.
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Fine make it Beagle instead of Roussel then! your still never going to get rid of Eriksson without including an unprotected 1st in 2020 and you don't have that so you will have to move others! Also if you want to keep Demko we can take Dipietro instead but I think you would rather keep the younger better goalie under team control for yourselves.


Depending on where the 2020 1st rd pick ends up I could see the team moving it if it's late enough and the Canucks don't like a player in that area. In such a deep draft class that'd go a long way to covering Eriksson. I'd be happy to package the 2020 1st, DiPietro, and Eriksson for a pick in return
 
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