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Gaud help for Jack

Created by: Capitalfail67
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 17, 2020
Published: Jul. 17, 2020
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im not a fan so dont kill.i also know that Jokiharju is the greatest rhd ever to play but he is more like what the flames would want for JG.

i hate Brett Hull ..... see i come in peace
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2$900,000
6$7,000,000
2$900,000
3$2,200,000
5$4,000,000
5$4,250,000
5$3,250,000
2$850,000
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1$1,250,000
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BUF
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
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flames get a solid young RHD and a top 10 draft pick...2nd and average prospect.

idk if the flames would want more. JG is really good but he only has 2 years left
CGY
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
  2. Jokiharju, Henri
  3. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
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2020
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22$81,500,000$80,812,500$1,487,500$3,700,000$687,500
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LW
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C
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RW
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RW, LW
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C, LW
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LW, RW, C
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LW, RW
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LW, RW
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RW
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RW, LW
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LW, C
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C
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G
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G
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
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not sure how Sabres fans will feel about it but from an outside perspective it looks like a good deal for both clubs
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.
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I like this Johnny trade more than any move I have seen for Lindholm to the Sabres.
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:01 p.m.
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Still no they have a first line LW the coach thought putting him with Lazar was a better idea. They are building the blue line around Dahlin and Jokiharju.
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.
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Flames 1000000000000% decline this garbage trade
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: zyyyp
not sure how Sabres fans will feel about it but from an outside perspective it looks like a good deal for both clubs


Sabre fans think Jokiharju is a top 20 dman so i bet they hate this trade but i thought it helps both teams
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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I'm a big fan of Jokiharju and at least you included the top 10 pick in this so kudos. Much better than the Mittelstadt/Risto garbage we usually see proposed.
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: flamesfan
Flames 1000000000000% decline this garbage trade


garbage trade? you guys have the worse prospect pool in the NHL and you can get a young top 4 RHD a top 10 pick for a lw coming off a down year. JG is really good but garbage trade seems extreme? sounds like you think with your heart and not your brain
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:11 p.m.
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Still no they have a first line LW the coach thought putting him with Lazar was a better idea. They are building the blue line around Dahlin and Jokiharju.


imo this is a minor step back but the sabre can make the playoffs with this team and it will make Jack happy. you are build a blueline around a player you got 6 months ago? how long was the build? who did you add?
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:13 p.m.
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Buffalo decline
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Sabre fans think Jokiharju is a top 20 dman so i bet they hate this trade but i thought it helps both teams

we don’t think he’s a top 20 dman...we just love the idea of a dahlin-jokiharju pairing for the future. with that being said, this trade definitely peaked my interest.
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: flamesfan
Flames 1000000000000% decline this garbage trade


“garbage trade”. what a clown
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:15 p.m.
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Quoting: BurnEmUp
I'm a big fan of Jokiharju and at least you included the top 10 pick in this so kudos. Much better than the Mittelstadt/Risto garbage we usually see proposed.


this top line could do a lot of damage.... i think JG would gel instantlt with Eichel and SR. they could be a bubble team and put up career numbers... think this could keep jack happy till Buffalo makes Cozen a legit 2c .... he has all the potential just needs to adjust
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:16 p.m.
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In a vacuum this trade works a far as value (maybe a slight over pay by the Sabres but you have to for a player like JG). However the Sabres already has 2 top 6 LW, so it really doesn't make sense for the Sabres to make this trade. They need RW and a 2C so no sense in trading a young (potential top) RD and 8th overall for one of the few positions they are strong at.
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Buffalo decline


my biggest issue with Buffalo fans is you guys want to improve your roster but refuse to offer anything of value. you need to giveup something good to get something good. cant keep trading CM and Risto for great returns. nobody is going to do that. so either make a fair deal with solid players or have Jack request a trade out
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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my biggest issue with Buffalo fans is you guys want to improve your roster but refuse to offer anything of value. you need to giveup something good to get something good. cant keep trading CM and Risto for great returns. nobody is going to do that. so either make a fair deal with solid players or have Jack request a trade out


This exactly.
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: BruceWayne17
In a vacuum this trade works a far as value (maybe a slight over pay by the Sabres but you have to for a player like JG). However the Sabres already has 2 top 6 LW, so it really doesn't make sense for the Sabres to make this trade. They need RW and a 2C so no sense in trading a young (potential top) RD and 8th overall for one of the few positions they are strong at.


Skinner might be a Okoposo 2.0 id say after lasst season you have 1 good lw and 1 potentially good lw.... JG with Eichel will get 90-100 points. you dont have an ELite LW
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: chloewoj
we don’t think he’s a top 20 dman...we just love the idea of a dahlin-jokiharju pairing for the future. with that being said, this trade definitely peaked my interest.


i should have said some Buffalo fans.... hes got potential to be great
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.
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imo this is a minor step back but the sabre can make the playoffs with this team and it will make Jack happy. you are build a blueline around a player you got 6 months ago? how long was the build? who did you add?

6 months ago? It was over a year ago. You can just put Skinner with Eichel again and you will see the same results. Skinner still had the most quality chances playing with the worst players on the team.
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
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This is too much for Gaudreau.

6M in cap space. Solid 2nd pairing RHD on ELC. 8th overall pick and a prospect for 2 years of Gaudreau?

It would be decent if it was a mid-low 1st but not 8OA.

Replace Jokihariju with Montour and it's much more fair. Just the cap space has the value of a 1st round pick.

I think a better trade would be Olofsson and Jokihariju for Gaudreau.
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:26 p.m.
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I love how it's always "two years of Gaudreau" like that's not valuable, especially when he's only at a $6.75m AAV. Guys that do what he does get paid more than $10 million AAV now.

Also, GMs give up huge packages for 2 months of rentals every single year, 2 years of Johnny is an eternity and then they'd be able to offer him the best contract extension as well.
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:32 p.m.
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The Sabres dont need Gaudreau in any capacity, that is the problem
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:39 p.m.
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I love how it's always "two years of Gaudreau" like that's not valuable, especially when he's only at a $6.75m AAV. Guys that do what he does get paid more than $10 million AAV now.

Also, GMs give up huge packages for 2 months of rentals every single year, 2 years of Johnny is an eternity and then they'd be able to offer him the best contract extension as well.


its always "The Sabres dont need Gaudreau " or "6M in cap space. Solid 2nd pairing RHD on ELC. 8th overall pick and a prospect for 2 years of Gaudreau?" yeah Buffalo missed a playoff that allowed 24 teams... 2 year of JG could do a lot for this team or not having him 2 years could mean Eichel wants out
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.
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its always "The Sabres dont need Gaudreau " or "6M in cap space. Solid 2nd pairing RHD on ELC. 8th overall pick and a prospect for 2 years of Gaudreau?" yeah Buffalo missed a playoff that allowed 24 teams... 2 year of JG could do a lot for this team or not having him 2 years could mean Eichel wants out


But as said before if Skinner plays with Jack they are in. Even if Ullmark stays healthy they would have still been in the real playoff race and would have easily made the 24 team playoff.
Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.
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But as said before if Skinner plays with Jack they are in. Even if Ullmark stays healthy they would have still been in the real playoff race and would have easily made the 24 team playoff.


if my aunt had a dik she would be my uncle .... hard to say what would have happened but what actually happened was you missed the playoffs. this team obviously needs to improve and from what ive gathered the fans dont want to move anything good to get anything good so its just a lose lose
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Jul. 17, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.
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Quoting: BurnEmUp
I love how it's always "two years of Gaudreau" like that's not valuable, especially when he's only at a $6.75m AAV. Guys that do what he does get paid more than $10 million AAV now.

Also, GMs give up huge packages for 2 months of rentals every single year, 2 years of Johnny is an eternity and then they'd be able to offer him the best contract extension as well.


The Sabres have to pay Sam this year and then Dahlin next year. They are going to have very limited cap to work with in 2 years to resign a player that will command what Gaudreu commands so in all likelihood he is at best a 2 yr rental. If he were the one piece that could put them over the top next year and make them a contender I would do this but he is not. They still need to find a 2C, with this trade a top 4 RD, a top 6 RW and they have traded their best asset that could have been used to acquire those pieces
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