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Contender for Philly

Created by: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
Published: Jul 19, 2020 at 8:22
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 186/186 (100%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the upper limit has been exceeded by one of the trade parties

Philadelphia FlyersPhiladelphia Flyers

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $2,550,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: -$23,756
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
2021 2nd round pick (Philadelphia FlyersPHI)------------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Allen, JakeSt. Louis BluesNHL-$4,350,000111---
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,573,7562248673512
Change-$4,350,0001110-10
Final-$1,776,244 (↓)23 (↑)49 (↑)68 (↑)34 (↓)12000

St. Louis BluesSt. Louis Blues

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $10,750,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $3,508,333
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Allen, JakeSt. Louis BluesNHL-$4,350,000111---
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
2021 2nd round pick (Philadelphia FlyersPHI)------------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$7,241,667254761349
Change$4,350,000-1-1-1010
Final$11,591,667 (↑)24 (↓)46 (↓)60 (↓)35 (↑)9000
Jul 19, 2020 at 10:10
#1
Fanboys make bad Gms
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Ummm, wtf. Stl is gonna pay more than a second to get rid of that money, not get rewarded for it. Phi might take a garbage contract at some point but they sure as balls aren't paying for it.
Jul 20, 2020 at 12:28
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Quoting: reelkena
Ummm, wtf. Stl is gonna pay more than a second to get rid of that money, not get rewarded for it. Phi might take a garbage contract at some point but they sure as balls aren't paying for it.


Philly needs a starter. And judging by both teams lack of significant cap space. Allen's a solid goaltender for his price tag. There are more teams in need of a starting goaltender then there is talent
Jul 20, 2020 at 1:00
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Hawks36
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Quoting: reelkena
Ummm, wtf. Stl is gonna pay more than a second to get rid of that money, not get rewarded for it. Phi might take a garbage contract at some point but they sure as balls aren't paying for it.


Swap of bad contracts possibly...
Jul 20, 2020 at 2:12
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Fanboys make bad Gms
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Quoting: Sarakas
Philly needs a starter. And judging by both teams lack of significant cap space. Allen's a solid goaltender for his price tag. There are more teams in need of a starting goaltender then there is talent


Did you come out of a coma today? Philly has a starter. Philly might end up with a top 10 starter by next seasons end. 74 starts, 915 sv%. Why is everyone trying to dump worse starters on Philly?
Jul 20, 2020 at 5:42
#5
yinzguhyz.com
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Yea Philly has some kid named Carter Hart, I've heard he's pretty good.

Also though Jake Allen could be a desirable piece for a couple of teams including BUF, CGY, DET, CAR and potentially even MIN (although I doubt they move him to a div rival).

He's also on an expiring deal so the short term money with no commitment could be enticing for even a team like PIT if they decide to cash in on Murray instead of signing him.
Jul 20, 2020 at 9:24
#6
Romanov for Calder
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If this deal is going to go through, go Allen for Elliott and add a third with STL
Jul 20, 2020 at 1:31
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Quoting: HabsFan9
If this deal is going to go through, go Allen for Elliott and add a third with STL


This is an off-season trade. Why would the blues trade for a free agent in Elliot?
Jul 20, 2020 at 1:38
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Quoting: reelkena
Did you come out of a coma today? Philly has a starter. Philly might end up with a top 10 starter by next seasons end. 74 starts, 915 sv%. Why is everyone trying to dump worse starters on Philly?


I have high hopes for Hart in Philly. But you don't want to be in your window for contention and Hart gets hurt, hasn't fully developed, or doesn't pan out. Allen is a short term contract with an opportunity to extend if they want to or trade away at a later date. They aren't going to go chasing the other free agency goaltenders like Holtby or Lehner because they don't have the cap to.
Jul 20, 2020 at 1:56
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Fanboys make bad Gms
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Quoting: Sarakas
I have high hopes for Hart in Philly. But you don't want to be in your window for contention and Hart gets hurt, hasn't fully developed, or doesn't pan out. Allen is a short term contract with an opportunity to extend if they want to or trade away at a later date. They aren't going to go chasing the other free agency goaltenders like Holtby or Lehner because they don't have the cap to.


Unfortunately Jake Allen is no longer available because if everyone is desperate for 4+ million backups then why would Stl move him? Jake only makes sense to someone looking to cash in on this season as a starter and ignore the last 3 years before this. Philly would only be flipping him later if he isn't of much use and if that's the case they are not getting their 2nd back for him. I understand if Hart gets hurt things go bad but imagine what you are saying to your young starter if you just trade for a big contract goaltender and tell him "it's just in case"
Jul 20, 2020 at 4:41
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Romanov for Calder
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Quoting: Sarakas
This is an off-season trade. Why would the blues trade for a free agent in Elliot?


I don’t know. I was just offering an alternative to this trade
 
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