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Buf Pit redo see comment

Created by: reelkena
Published: Jul 20, 2020 at 1:31
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 41/186 (22%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Buffalo SabresBuffalo Sabres

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $6,675,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: -$3,875,357
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Montour, BrandonBuffalo SabresNHL-$3,387,500111---5451318
Johansson, MarcusBuffalo SabresNHL-$4,500,000111---6092130
Mittelstadt, CaseyWaivers ExemptBuffalo SabresMinor-$0011---31459
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Murray, MattPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$3,750,000111---
Bjugstad, NickPittsburgh PenguinsIR-$4,100,000011---13112
Warsofsky, DavidPittsburgh PenguinsMinor-$0011---0000
2020 3rd round pick (Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT)------------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$10,550,3572245613410
Change$37,500-100010
Final$10,587,857 (↑)21 (↓)456135 (↑)10-17-380

Pittsburgh PenguinsPittsburgh Penguins

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $6,000,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $3,316,250
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Murray, MattPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$3,750,000111---
Bjugstad, NickPittsburgh PenguinsIR-$4,100,000011---13112
Warsofsky, DavidPittsburgh PenguinsMinor-$0011---0000
2020 3rd round pick (Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT)------------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Montour, BrandonBuffalo SabresNHL-$3,387,500111---5451318
Johansson, MarcusBuffalo SabresNHL-$4,500,000111---6092130
Mittelstadt, CaseyWaivers ExemptBuffalo SabresMinor-$0011---31459
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,683,7502547673510
Change-$37,5001000-10
Final$2,646,250 (↓)26 (↑)476734 (↓)10173855
Jul 20, 2020 at 1:34
#1
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Pit gets a better piece back (maybe) in Mittlestadt. They still get rid of Bjugstad's contract and Montour still comes.
Buf gets rid of Mojo who does not look good in Buf. They get Murray who they would love to have. Warsofsky put up a bunch of points in the AHL but has holes.

The risks are also minimal. Pit was moving Murray anyway. The prospect is mild. Buf was moving Montour anyway, Mittlestadt is mild.

PS: I wanted to send Conor Sheary back in this trade just so he could go Pit-Buf-Pit-Buf but that guy needed a break.
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Jul 20, 2020 at 2:20
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I don’t believe Buffalo would move Johansson, he has excellent chemistry with Kahun. They also don’t give up Mittelstadt unless not including him is the dealbreaker. Buffalo has plenty of defensive prospects and does not need any more.
Jul 20, 2020 at 2:42
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Quoting: Tjm220
I don’t believe Buffalo would move Johansson, he has excellent chemistry with Kahun. They also don’t give up Mittelstadt unless not including him is the dealbreaker. Buffalo has plenty of defensive prospects and does not need any more.


we can swap the prospect for a forward I'm sure. If you wanna keep a 9 goal scorer making 4.5 because of chemistry then I can't really help there.
Jul 20, 2020 at 2:48
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Personally, I’d pass if I were the Sabres. I can’t see giving up three pieces for a goalie (as the main piece returning) who’s numbers struggled last year. I’d rather have Ullmark starting.
Jul 20, 2020 at 3:35
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Quoting: MJCrv
Personally, I’d pass if I were the Sabres. I can’t see giving up three pieces for a goalie (as the main piece returning) who’s numbers struggled last year. I’d rather have Ullmark starting.


You're not giving up 3 pieces. Mojo is a cap dump. He's part of the enticement of the other two. He's very bad. Like really really not good. If you want Ullmark though, that's fine that's a separate argument.
Jul 20, 2020 at 4:50
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I think the Sabres might be giving up too much, considering Murray’s and RFA and Bjugstad is injured 3/4ths of the time
Jul 20, 2020 at 4:51
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Quoting: HabsFan9
I think the Sabres might be giving up too much, considering Murray’s and RFA and Bjugstad is injured 3/4ths of the time


Montour is also an RFA so it's really just Casey.
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Jul 20, 2020 at 8:39
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Quoting: reelkena
You're not giving up 3 pieces. Mojo is a cap dump. He's part of the enticement of the other two. He's very bad. Like really really not good. If you want Ullmark though, that's fine that's a separate argument.

I def want a goalie, just not this one.
Jul 20, 2020 at 10:49
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Quoting: MJCrv
I def want a goalie, just not this one.


Thats fine. I can understand that. It's a very different conversation than the Mojo has good chemistry so he's worth something thing. This one I can't argue. If you want a different available goalie then we can do that. I'll post a new trade.
Jul 21, 2020 at 1:39
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@MJCrv TBH as a Pens fan, I'm with you on not wanting Murray, and it sucks to say that; he's just been way too inconsistent since Fleury left. That doesn't mean you couldn't get legit value for him, it just means that I personally am not the biggest fan. Getting him in a trade is a long term commitment as well and he is due for a fat raise. Overall, I hope they trade him over Jarry, and that's saying something. But league wide I'd imagine he would carry more value due to his playoff success and great numbers a couple of seasons ago, although as a GM I would be extremely hesitant to give him a deal over 3 years, and even that would be tough for me. You know he is going to want 5+.

@reelkena Like I said, I'm biased, but I do like this trade for the Pens. Montour is a question mark, and if he sucks, then this deal falls apart quick. For me I would be willing to sign him to another short term deal, but in todays NHL, what follows from a bridge deal is usually a more legitimate long term one. Much like with Murray, I'd be hesitant to give Montour a deal like that, but if somebody has watched a lot of him and has an opinion (maybe @MJCrv) I'd be all ears.

Either way, you're right, and Mittlestadt is rather inconsequential. Maybe he has a resurgence under Sullivan but it looks more like the kid just wasn't as good as his draft position. It happens. Johansson though, is interesting to me. He just had a solid AF playoffs for Boston last season. He is on an expiring deal. And if he got traded to us we would most likely not honor his trade protection. So if he sucked, we could flip him at the deadline to a team on the bubble, but if he was good, we might get another banner. Low key would be happy to have him here, he'd be the most legit 3C we had since Bonino left.
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