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Created by: Campabee
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 21, 2020
Published: Jul. 21, 2020
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Description
MB decides to go all in and improve the team in FA to become a contender and Krug decides to play outside the States.

Alzner terminates his contract to join Habs front office (wishful thinking I know but it could happen)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$975,000
2$975,000
4$2,100,000
6$6,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,500,000
1$1,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$2,500,000
Trades
MTL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (BUF)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$72,297,976$0$3,137,500$9,202,024
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$975,000$975,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LD
UFA - 7
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$975,000$975,000
RD
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1

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Jul. 21, 2020 at 2:23 a.m.
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Can someone explain to me how Domi is worth a top 8 pick?
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 2:29 a.m.
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Why do all Habs fans want Domi gone so bad?
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:02 a.m.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 7:42 a.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
Why do all Habs fans want Domi gone so bad?


Has to be money related. There was rumblings that the next contract was going to be a sticking point BEFORE COVID hit and ppl found out there was going to be a flat cap for 2 years. MTL has 2 young Centers on ELCs that can step into 2C role behind Danault, so I get it.

That being said, but bc of this contract situation and his down year, Domi is not worth 8OA. A top10 protected 2021 1st, Lawrence Pilut, Casey Mittelstadt and a late pick seems fair.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 8:50 a.m.
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Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
Has to be money related. There was rumblings that the next contract was going to be a sticking point BEFORE COVID hit and ppl found out there was going to be a flat cap for 2 years. MTL has 2 young Centers on ELCs that can step into 2C role behind Danault, so I get it.

That being said, but bc of this contract situation and his down year, Domi is not worth 8OA. A top10 protected 2021 1st, Lawrence Pilut, Casey Mittelstadt and a late pick seems fair.


8th pick is no sure thing. Buffalo needs to compete now, they can't keep adding top 10 picks and suck. Their fans are restless. Domi is a great player and worth that pick.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:15 a.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
Why do all Habs fans want Domi gone so bad?


he's good but not that good.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:20 a.m.
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Can someone explain to me how Domi is worth a top 8 pick?


A centerman entering his prime with a 50 point floor and one year removed from hitting 72 points without elite offensive linemates. Compared to the 8th OA, the last 15 of whom have been: Coburn, Picard, Setoguchi, Mueller, Hamill, Boedker, Glennie, Burmistrov, Couturier, Derrick Pouliot, Rasmus Ristolainen, William Nylander, Werenski, Alex Nylander and Mittelstadt.

3 of those (out of 15) can be considered more valuable than Domi. I know what I'd pick between the 2 options.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:25 a.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
Why do all Habs fans want Domi gone so bad?


They have no patience, it's exhausting being one of the only Habs fans who sees his value. He put up 72 points his first season and was on pace for 50 this season, which has been the floor for him his whole career. I want to see at least another season before commiting to anything in regards to Domi.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:51 a.m.
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Just think back years ago… Jordan Staal was traded from Pittsburgh to Carolina for the 8th overall pick. And if you look at Jordan Staal's stats, he only had a 50 point season once in his career. Domi is a much better player and for the Habs a trade should look more like this : Domi to BUF for 8th overall pick + Brandon Montour.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:55 a.m.
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They have no patience, it's exhausting being one of the only Habs fans who sees his value. He put up 72 points his first season and was on pace for 50 this season, which has been the floor for him his whole career. I want to see at least another season before commiting to anything in regards to Domi.


It's not a lack of patients with Domi, it is about filling holes in the lineup by moving a quality 2nd line C because we have too many centers now. We could move one of Suzuki or Kotkaniemi but the return will not be as good as what moving Domi would get because like it or not they have not proved their worth as a consistent NHL center yet. It is not so much about getting futures as it is about freeing up the extra 6-7 Mil to bring in a top pairing LHD or a top line scoring winger. Domi can definitely play wing but he is not happy there. So why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone so to speak, Make Domi happy by sending him somewhere that he can play to his potential as a 2C and free cap space to fill our needs while getting fair value back.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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It's not a lack of patients with Domi, it is about filling holes in the lineup by moving a quality 2nd line C because we have too many centers now. We could move one of Suzuki or Kotkaniemi but the return will not be as good as what moving Domi would get because like it or not they have not proved their worth as a consistent NHL center yet. It is not so much about getting futures as it is about freeing up the extra 6-7 Mil to bring in a top pairing LHD or a top line scoring winger. Domi can definitely play wing but he is not happy there. So why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone so to speak, Make Domi happy by sending him somewhere that he can play to his potential as a 2C and free cap space to fill our needs while getting fair value back.


I think people really overstate how unhappy Domi is playing wing. I mean sure he's better as a C but he played wing his whole career until he came to MTL, I don't think he'd pout over being put there again.

As for opening up cap space why not trade away Drouin instead. Sure his ceiling may be a little higher but the floor is also much lower. I just don't think that trading away a proven C with a 50 point floor is a great idea when nobody in the organization has proven they can take his job. Overall my biggest problem with trading Domi now is that it would definitely be selling low. I also don't see any top UFA coming to MTL in the near future.

By the way people had the same idea with Danault last summer. They said that KK and Poehling would definitely be NHL ready and he was expendable. 1 year later this has very much proven false.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 11:33 a.m.
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I think people really overstate how unhappy Domi is playing wing. I mean sure he's better as a C but he played wing his whole career until he came to MTL, I don't think he'd pout over being put there again.

As for opening up cap space why not trade away Drouin instead. Sure his ceiling may be a little higher but the floor is also much lower. I just don't think that trading away a proven C with a 50 point floor is a great idea when nobody in the organization has proven they can take his job. Overall my biggest problem with trading Domi now is that it would definitely be selling low. I also don't see any top UFA coming to MTL in the near future.

By the way people had the same idea with Danault last summer. They said that KK and Poehling would definitely be NHL ready and he was expendable. 1 year later this has very much proven false.


Domi himsefl said he wants to play center, I don't think he is the type of player to ever complain about playing the wing or much else and don't think anyone else thinks that either. See link for story on Domi wanting to play center.

https://montrealgazette.com/sports/in-the-middle-with-canadiens-max-domi

I don't mind moving Drouin I just do not think there will be a whole lot of takers and MB may not be willing to give up on him yet.

Ideally in a perfect world we keep everyone this year and add one of Hall, Krug or Hoffman then sort out the center situation and cap next season.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:24 p.m.
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Quoting: LumberJacques
A centerman entering his prime with a 50 point floor and one year removed from hitting 72 points without elite offensive linemates. Compared to the 8th OA, the last 15 of whom have been: Coburn, Picard, Setoguchi, Mueller, Hamill, Boedker, Glennie, Burmistrov, Couturier, Derrick Pouliot, Rasmus Ristolainen, William Nylander, Werenski, Alex Nylander and Mittelstadt.

3 of those (out of 15) can be considered more valuable than Domi. I know what I'd pick between the 2 options.


So all 50 point players are worth top 8 picks? Some of you MTL fans need to take off the blinders.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.
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So all 50 point players are worth top 8 picks? Some of you MTL fans need to take off the blinders.


Pretty sure I never said that.

I pointed out how Domi has a 50 point floor which is better than many top 10 picks end up with. He also already got 72 points which is more than most top 10 picks in the upcoming draft will ever get in a season.

He played poorly for much of this season and was still on pace for 50 points. I believe he is more of a 55-65 point C who is entering his prime and trading guys like that usually works out better for the team acquiring than the one trading away.

So yes I do believe Domi is worth every bit of the 8th OA.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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Just think back years ago… Jordan Staal was traded from Pittsburgh to Carolina for the 8th overall pick. And if you look at Jordan Staal's stats, he only had a 50 point season once in his career. Domi is a much better player and for the Habs a trade should look more like this : Domi to BUF for 8th overall pick + Brandon Montour.


Jordan Staal was a year and a half younger at the time and had scored over 20 goals 4 of his 6 seasons. He was and is still considered an excellent defensive center man. His 50 point season was in 62 games. He was scoring at an over 20 goal per 82 games pace each of his last 4 seasons in Pittsburgh as a third line center. He last 2 seasons were injury shortened but was on pace for over 60 points both years. His last 2 years in Pittsburgh Staal ranked 79th and 47th in points per game in the league and higher in points per 60. Domi over the last 2 years has ranked 54th and 136th in points per game in the nhl playing a top 6 role predominantly the entire time. It is fair to say that Staal would have been regarded as the better player at that point in his career then Domi is now.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.
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Quoting: LumberJacques
Pretty sure I never said that.

I pointed out how Domi has a 50 point floor which is better than many top 10 picks end up with. He also already got 72 points which is more than most top 10 picks in the upcoming draft will ever get in a season.

He played poorly for much of this season and was still on pace for 50 points. I believe he is more of a 55-65 point C who is entering his prime and trading guys like that usually works out better for the team acquiring than the one trading away.

So yes I do believe Domi is worth every bit of the 8th OA.


Would you trade Domi for Dadonov if both had similar contracts?
Jul. 21, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.
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Would you trade Domi for Dadonov if both had similar contracts?


Well it's an interesting exercise. On the one hand Dadonov is 6 years older and doesn't play center. He has more points but also plays with Barkov or Huberdeau while Domi plays with an ever changing mix of Byron, Lehkonen, Armia, Suzuki, Weal and Drouin. I'd question whether Dadonov could keep up that pace with lesser linemates.

All in all they are pretty similar players and if they were the same age I would have to consider it.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 2:22 p.m.
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Well it's an interesting exercise. On the one hand Dadonov is 6 years older and doesn't play center. He has more points but also plays with Barkov or Huberdeau while Domi plays with an ever changing mix of Byron, Lehkonen, Armia, Suzuki, Weal and Drouin. I'd question whether Dadonov could keep up that pace with lesser linemates.

All in all they are pretty similar players and if they were the same age I would have to consider it.


But if Domi is worth #8 he should be able to play with anyone and produce.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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But if Domi is worth #8 he should be able to play with anyone and produce.


And he does, he will put up at least 50 points regardless who he plays with. He even put up 72 with Drouin and Shaw which is more than Dadonov put up with Barkov that same year (or ever). He was on pace for 50 again this season when nothing was going his way and played mostly with defensive minded bottom 6ers. I would like to see him with a genuine offensive weapon at some point in his career, maybe then people would realize just how good he is.
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