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2020 non leafs fan ideas

Created by: gregb569
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 22, 2020
Published: Jul. 22, 2020
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LMK on trade values.. think I need to add in STL trade.. not sure they'd be interested in giving up Bortuzzo though.. If AP resigns I think they do it.

Obviously the only problem with this roster is the cap space IMO..
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,850,000
2$875,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$1,750,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
  2. 2021 4th round pick (SJS)
2.
TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
NSH blueline is getting up there in age. This gives them a 2nd youngster (Fabbro) to build around for the future.
3.
STL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
- Conditional pick

- 2nd rounder / if TML *DO NOT* make ECF, pick downgrades to a 3rd
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the COL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the STL
Logo of the WPG
2021
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
2022
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
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Logo of the TOR
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,171,450$0$0$328,550
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,850,000$1,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$875,000$875,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$1,375,000$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1

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Jul. 22, 2020 at 6:17 a.m.
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Gotta love how you seem to believe Bortuzzo is worth a 2nd rounder and you think Dermott’s value is a 3rd
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 6:19 a.m.
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Remember a few years ago when everybody said « look at the Preds blueline it’s so young » and now people are realizing that their big three at D is now roughly 30
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 6:20 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Gotta love how you seem to believe Bortuzzo is worth a 2nd rounder and you think Dermott’s value is a 3rd


I like to undervalue & overpay so people don't freak out, lol.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 6:24 a.m.
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Wow.. Bortuzzo for 2nd but Dermott and Johnsson for 3rds.. I get what you are trying to do from comment above me, but thats just not correct value..
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 7:33 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Remember a few years ago when everybody said « look at the Preds blueline it’s so young » and now people are realizing that their big three at D is now roughly 30


Still very good. And Josi should win the Norris
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 7:37 a.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Wow.. Bortuzzo for 2nd but Dermott and Johnsson for 3rds.. I get what you are trying to do from comment above me, but thats just not correct value..


Again, I've noticed on some posts people going bezerk over Johnsson for a 2nd (which I think is decent value) and I see a lot of hate posts regarding Dermotts value.. either way, I think these moves would benefit the leafs, but obviously the values can be fixed.

What do you think? I mean I didn't do too much (which I don't think the leafs need to do), but I think bringing back/in some vets like Patty, Spezz, Bortuzzo & Hainsey would help tremendously
Jul. 22, 2020 at 7:40 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Remember a few years ago when everybody said « look at the Preds blueline it’s so young » and now people are realizing that their big three at D is now roughly 30


That is how aging works...

Quoting: SammyT_51
Wow.. Bortuzzo for 2nd but Dermott and Johnsson for 3rds.. I get what you are trying to do from comment above me, but thats just not correct value..


After Bortuzzo cheap shots the rest of the league, he'll be the only player left standing, and therefore the most valuable player in the NHL. He's the goon Highlander.
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 7:45 a.m.
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Quoting: gregb569
Again, I've noticed on some posts people going bezerk over Johnsson for a 2nd (which I think is decent value) and I see a lot of hate posts regarding Dermotts value.. either way, I think these moves would benefit the leafs, but obviously the values can be fixed.

What do you think? I mean I didn't do too much (which I don't think the leafs need to do), but I think bringing back/in some vets like Patty, Spezz, Bortuzzo & Hainsey would help tremendously


Johnsson for a 2nd is a normal value. 2nd line wingers always go for 2nd rounders or even more. He had injury filled season so just 2nd.. he is that good. Dermott is an interesting one. He has tremendous on-ice results when it comes to overall impact on defense. Anybody playing with him is suddenly better player and that pairing regardless of who he plays with is always more effective with him on it. But he wasnt having good season because of shoulder surgery last summer. He played his best hockey towards the end of the year and his trade value is at least a 2nd rounder although I expect Leafs to keep him and play him with Rielly if no D is signed.

I dont see Leafs doing much so this is pretty realistic from that standpoint. Veterans are always great if they can contribute like Spezza did. Hainsey is washed up and Bortuzzo is 6th/7th D which just adds some vet depth which Leafs dont necessarily need there.. Marleau might sign somewhere else. I dont see him signing with Leafs. Also Leafs very likely re-sign Clifford
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 8:56 a.m.
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Strange how so many think the Leafs Dmen and overall defence is so bad. Nashville and their highly paid and respected defence/Dmen allowed just 8 fewer goals than the Leafs this season.
Don't know why folks think Dermot is the odd man out for the Leafs, Cost efficient, a plus player in the past two seasons, 17 minutes a game.
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 9:26 a.m.
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Strange how so many think the Leafs Dmen and overall defence is so bad. Nashville and their highly paid and respected defence/Dmen allowed just 8 fewer goals than the Leafs this season.
Don't know why folks think Dermot is the odd man out for the Leafs, Cost efficient, a plus player in the past two seasons, 17 minutes a game.


Don’t forget that he can play the right side as well.

I think Dermott needs the same thing Holl got. A chance to build confidence.
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 9:30 a.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Johnsson for a 2nd is a normal value. 2nd line wingers always go for 2nd rounders or even more. He had injury filled season so just 2nd.. he is that good. Dermott is an interesting one. He has tremendous on-ice results when it comes to overall impact on defense. Anybody playing with him is suddenly better player and that pairing regardless of who he plays with is always more effective with him on it. But he wasnt having good season because of shoulder surgery last summer. He played his best hockey towards the end of the year and his trade value is at least a 2nd rounder although I expect Leafs to keep him and play him with Rielly if no D is signed.

I dont see Leafs doing much so this is pretty realistic from that standpoint. Veterans are always great if they can contribute like Spezza did. Hainsey is washed up and Bortuzzo is 6th/7th D which just adds some vet depth which Leafs dont necessarily need there.. Marleau might sign somewhere else. I dont see him signing with Leafs. Also Leafs very likely re-sign Clifford


Unless Dermott is part of a package for a clear upgrade on rhd (like pulock or Ellis) I don’t see any benefit in moving him.

I would really like to see him with Rielly or Muzzin next season.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 10:41 a.m.
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Unless Dermott is part of a package for a clear upgrade on rhd (like pulock or Ellis) I don’t see any benefit in moving him.

I would really like to see him with Rielly or Muzzin next season.


Honestly, to get a "clear upgrade" like Pulock/Ellis (which you guys wouldn't be able to afford) I think any package would start at Dermott+one of the 3M guys ++. Highly doubt a deal is made there with Pulock/Ellis
Jul. 22, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.
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Honestly, to get a "clear upgrade" like Pulock/Ellis (which you guys wouldn't be able to afford) I think any package would start at Dermott+one of the 3M guys ++. Highly doubt a deal is made there with Pulock/Ellis


I don’t really see it happening either. Teams would want a high price and the reward for the leafs would not be worth it.

I’m just saying, if the deal is there and it seems fair then I could see Dermott being moved. Otherwise I would give him a bigger workload next season. Move him into the top four on the right side if Sandin is truly ready.
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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holy **** yes please
 
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