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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 22, 2020
Published: Jul. 22, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,500,000
2$1,500,000
1$874,125
1$874,125
1$840,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
2.
3.
NYI
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. 2021 5th round pick (PHI)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,863,725$0$3,795,000$4,636,275
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$771,666$771,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$874,125$874,125
RD
UFA - 1
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$840,000$840,000
C, LW, RW
UFA

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Jul. 22, 2020 at 8:30 a.m.
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burn the pegulas
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sabres decline. reino is our only true 1LW and his chemistry with eichel is out of this world. buff would much rather just give up our 8OA.
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 8:37 a.m.
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If you pick up Allen's contract, you need to get a compensatory pick
Jul. 22, 2020 at 9:05 a.m.
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Buffalo declines, this deal makes no sense.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 9:09 a.m.
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Buffalo declines, this deal makes no sense.


Both teams decline! Reinhart is good but it's kind of a lateral move for the Habs as he would play in the same position in our lineup that Domi already does 2nd line wing. Domi improves the C position for the Sabres but weakens their wing like you said so it makes no sense for the Sabres either
Jul. 22, 2020 at 9:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Joe_La_Garnotte
If you pick up Allen's contract, you need to get a compensatory pick


Allen had a .927 and a 2.1 GAA we can get a second for him so if you want a good backup who would provide a stable backbone with him and Price then you will have to give up.
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 9:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Joe_La_Garnotte
If you pick up Allen's contract, you need to get a compensatory pick


Blues fans have no concept of having to pay to shed salary, even with a flat cap and a back-up goalie making $4.35M. Montreal fans need to save themselves a headache and stop targeting Allen.
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 9:30 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Allen had a .927 and a 2.1 GAA we can get a second for him so if you want a good backup who would provide a stable backbone with him and Price then you will have to give up.


Allen was less than average in 2017-18 and 2018-19, at $4.35 million per, behind one of the best D in the league
Jul. 22, 2020 at 9:30 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Allen had a .927 and a 2.1 GAA we can get a second for him so if you want a good backup who would provide a stable backbone with him and Price then you will have to give up.


I've seen you make the post about Allen = 2nd pick. I am wandering which team you believe would be willing to give up a 2nd for Allen?
Jul. 22, 2020 at 10:08 a.m.
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sabres decline. reino is our only true 1LW and his chemistry with eichel is out of this world. buff would much rather just give up our 8OA.


I think Reinhart isn't going to be in Buffalo for long now. He has one year until he's UFA, and I don't see him re-signing long-term with the Sabres....you might be better off with trading the guy.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
I think Reinhart isn't going to be in Buffalo for long now. He has one year until he's UFA, and I don't see him re-signing long-term with the Sabres....you might be better off with trading the guy.

reinhart is a rfa this summer and the sabres plan on signing him long term...i don’t see your reasoning here
Jul. 22, 2020 at 10:12 a.m.
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reinhart is a rfa this summer and the sabres plan on signing him long term...i don’t see your reasoning here


Yeah, I think he's pulling what Darnell Nurse did. Signing a very short deal to lead him to free agency. Think almost all of your star players are tired of constantly losing.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 10:17 a.m.
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Quoting: blanche
I've seen you make the post about Allen = 2nd pick. I am wandering which team you believe would be willing to give up a 2nd for Allen?


The biggest thing people don’t understand I went to the summer camps. Allen looked better than what he usually did which is good, but you can’t sleep on him even with the underwhelming stats from the previous year if you look at his road stats they were brilliant. Certain teams would probably be willing to give up a second at a chance to get someone who is on a 1 year deal basis means you aren’t locked for all that long and you can see if he works out he needs new scenery as most have seen he doesn’t do well in Enterprise only on the road. If you get a chance to solidify the backbone teams might take a shot at it. Buffalo, Calgary, San Jose ( under the right circumstances), Carolina, New Jersey (also under the right circumstances),

Quoting: Joe_La_Garnotte
Allen was less than average in 2017-18 and 2018-19, at $4.35 million per, behind one of the best D in the league


At home was very less than average go look at his away stats then come talk to me.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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If the Isles are struggling to move Leddy they would need to take a package like you offered. I would think they would then try to trade Kulak as well and re-sign Greene or use Aho as their 3rd LD.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.
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How about immediately fire Bergevin, the most incompetent GM in NHL as a starting point.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
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Blues have no use for Weal, give us one of your 500 mid-round draft picks instead.


Quoting: Joe_La_Garnotte
If you pick up Allen's contract, you need to get a compensatory pick



Funny stuff.
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 11:01 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
The biggest thing people don’t understand I went to the summer camps. Allen looked better than what he usually did which is good, but you can’t sleep on him even with the underwhelming stats from the previous year if you look at his road stats they were brilliant. Certain teams would probably be willing to give up a second at a chance to get someone who is on a 1 year deal basis means you aren’t locked for all that long and you can see if he works out he needs new scenery as most have seen he doesn’t do well in Enterprise only on the road. If you get a chance to solidify the backbone teams might take a shot at it. Buffalo, Calgary, San Jose ( under the right circumstances), Carolina, New Jersey (also under the right circumstances),



At home was very less than average go look at his away stats then come talk to me.


Yeah no body gives a **** about summer camp 😆😎
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.
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isles take that if you give them a depth forward. They would probably want Leddy for a 2nd but with the value of losing big contracts, even if leddy is still a top 4 D man, is through the roof.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 11:18 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Allen had a .927 and a 2.1 GAA we can get a second for him so if you want a good backup who would provide a stable backbone with him and Price then you will have to give up.


Habs' best option for next season is Primeau. Push Price and then he eventually takes over as #1 starter in a few years.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 12:09 p.m.
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the Weal deal is interesting and certainly a reasonable value and an interesting idea but i'm not sure the Blues quite have the cap space or need for him. It would probably take salary retained for a low pick (like Allen and a 6th for weal half retained), which I'm not sure Montreal has cap space for either, or just the Blues getting a pick like a 3rd or a 4th back

Edit: Holy God I just realized how many mid round picks the Canadiens have, yeah we'll just take one of those
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Jul. 22, 2020 at 12:15 p.m.
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Quoting: BorisBagel
Habs' best option for next season is Primeau. Push Price and then he eventually takes over as #1 starter in a few years.


The irony of having Price as your 2G with few years left at $10M+
Jul. 22, 2020 at 12:15 p.m.
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How about immediately fire Bergevin, the most incompetent GM in NHL as a starting point.


How do you figure that
Jul. 22, 2020 at 12:16 p.m.
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Quoting: blanche
I've seen you make the post about Allen = 2nd pick. I am wandering which team you believe would be willing to give up a 2nd for Allen?


yeah no way in hell does Allen get a second, a 3rd is probably stretching it, he probably brings back a 4th. That said he does bring back a pick or equivalent value. As I said in my comment, save BMU's love for Allen and weird assumption in their own summer camp assessment being a high value consensus feeling among GMs, the Weal deal is good value wise I'm just not sure it's a fit, the Blues have 7 centers in their lineup and 1 healthy scratch center with RFA rights who likely costs under 1M next year, why would they want to add what would be their 7th or 8th most valuable center & push their cap when Montreal has a dumptruck full of middle round picks to give away to tempt the Blues negotiations?

I like Weal, I find the deal interesting, it doesn't fit, 7 Allen does bring back a pick, but the rest of us Blues fan realize a 2nd isn't gonna happen
Jul. 22, 2020 at 2:32 p.m.
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Allen is worth a 3rd, maybe blues add a late pick. Giving up a 3rd for Allen's 1yr @4+ is > then giving an =< backup 3mx2yrs or more in free agency

Most Blues fans don't think Allen is worth a 2nd

And the Blues have no use for weal.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Blues fans have no concept of having to pay to shed salary, even with a flat cap and a back-up goalie making $4.35M. Montreal fans need to save themselves a headache and stop targeting Allen.


unknown to most people considering Jake Allen's GSVA over the past 3 years is a 27.25 which goes down to 9.08 WAR. Jake Allen had a .905 this past season, and a .927 this season. Price over the past 3 years has been in the same ballpark as Allen. Allen had a .906 .905 and a .927 Price had a .900 .909 and a .918 and he is make more than twice the amount that Allen makes, and you say it costs us to shed that. You my friend do not have any clue of what you are talking about.
Jul. 22, 2020 at 3:53 p.m.
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yeah no way in hell does Allen get a second, a 3rd is probably stretching it, he probably brings back a 4th. That said he does bring back a pick or equivalent value. As I said in my comment, save BMU's love for Allen and weird assumption in their own summer camp assessment being a high value consensus feeling among GMs, the Weal deal is good value wise I'm just not sure it's a fit, the Blues have 7 centers in their lineup and 1 healthy scratch center with RFA rights who likely costs under 1M next year, why would they want to add what would be their 7th or 8th most valuable center & push their cap when Montreal has a dumptruck full of middle round picks to give away to tempt the Blues negotiations?

I like Weal, I find the deal interesting, it doesn't fit, 7 Allen does bring back a pick, but the rest of us Blues fan realize a 2nd isn't gonna happen


not neccessarily does he bring in a second, but considering I have been doing a lot of advanced stats, and have looked at his WAR, and GSVA. Allen over the past 3 years has been in the Top 20. regardless of how bad his stat line looks. The quality of shots gotten on him compared to others just hasn't been matched. Easily a third, a second might be pushing it for some people, but looking at his advanced stats his contract isn't actually out of his ballpark market value.
 
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