Hahahaha...oh man, Talk about you're all time backfires. This is classic. Trying to trade Murray and you're struggling to prove he's better than Carter Hutton who's 34 and had one single good year his entire career....as a backup goalie. I think you'll need to "Sell" Murray a different way.

So this is what PIT fans think Murray is worth?

So is hutton better than dubnyk since he had a better save % last year?

I just used Hutton as an example because Murray would most likely be the backup to Ullmark.

Hahahahah.... oh man, Talk about you're all time backfires. This is classic. Now show me where im trying to trade Murray

Yup, Murray would definitely be a backup to Ullmark even though hes had a better career GAA and save %

Hutton on his career is .003% worse by your own stats. And Hutton has an eye disease.

I like the Buffalo and Chicago trade the most. Pittsburgh needs Draft Picks. Roster players not so much unless it's a dandy.

Simple google search shows that Ullmark’s Save % is better and Murray’s GAA is better.. literally nonexistent differences between the two but you said it and it’s not true:
Ullmark: .915 and 2.69
Murray: .914 and 2.67

One of them has played on a dumpster fire and the other has played on a team that’s won two cups. Murray was excellent those cup runs though, I’ll give him that. But it’s not a good look when you just make up stuff.

Of course PIT likes those. It's highway robbery. I'd very much like to send a 7th round pick to PIT for a 50% retained Crosby......

Of course you’d like the Buffalo trade. It’s absolutely brutal for the Sabres.

Check the numbers again. Not a good look when you try and prove someone wrong, but you end up being the one who is wrong and making yourself look stupid

You wouldn't trade a 3rd liner for a starting goalie? Yookay.

You’re correct m, the lines look funny on my phone on Hockey-References. Says Career, then has season stats next to it. Still doesn’t change the last point though, and they’re prolly a lot closer in value then you’d like to admit.

Yeah you lost any sort of credibility when you claimed I made up stats, and then you posted completely wrong stats. If you ever go at someone, make sure you know what youre talking about

Wow it’s almost like you can’t make a mistake, own up to it, and move on. I didn’t “come at you” but you clearly got a chip somewhere buddy. It’s a hockey forum, most opinions are gonna be subjective. What’s not is Ullmark clearly outplayed Murray due to a variety of factors this year. Stats are better, he plays on a worse team, he didn’t essentially get replaced. Murray is a fine goalie, but he’s not worth 8OA and any realistic hockey fan knows this.

Every. Single. Trade. Is. An. Overpay.

And Murray has outplayed Ullmark their entire careers. Once again people like you love to only look at 1 year. Run along now and go post wrong stats somewhere else

This reply thread is just more proof that few people on this site actually watch games. People are insisting that Murray should have better stats because the Penguins win. What? Here is a little fact bomb for y'all... The Penguins D doesnt actually care about D. Dumoulin does, and second would be Jack Johnson. Go ahead and let that sink in since you all like to flail your arms in the air yapping about how much Johnson sucks and how many 1sts the Pens would need to pay to move him. Johnson is the #2 defensive guy on the Penguins D.

Go ahead, let that sink in.

Did it sink in yet? We'll wait.

Yeah, so how good are Murray's stats supposed to be when Johnson is one of his best defensive D? Ho ahead, stumble for an answer, maybe phone a friend.

Watch some games that don't include you favorite team.
Hech, watch a single game that doesn't include your favorite team. Don't just use stat sheets to "form" your "opinions".

Dont care if you did own it. Its funny how people try and prove you wrong, and they make themselves look stupid

Sure it’s a blast. Been fun, Murray isn’t worth 8OA and you’ve not changed anyone’s mind on that.

Where did I say he is worth the 8OA?

The 8th overall pick for a goalie, and average goalie. Pretty good one lol

The blackhawks trade is atrocious

The Calgary trade: the pens would be deadly with Gaudreau on crosbys line. However it doesn’t really benefit the pens in that they are giving up a young middle 6 forward, a starting nhl goalie with upside, a 3rd line center prospect, and a 1st. Pretty much destroying the pens depth for next year. I also don’t think Calgary would be interested in trading Gaudreau unless they get a top 6 center in return.
Buffalo would fire another GM if they made that trade.
Neither the pens or hawks want any part of that trade. I know some pens fans would trade 20 1st rounders, crosby, Malkin, Letang, and murray for Saad because Saad is a hometown guy but if the real gm thought that way, Saad would be in pgh already. I don’t see a retooling Chicago giving up a 1st round pick plus Saad unless they get a solid ransom. They could just wait til the deadline and a team will massively overpay for him while they retain 50% of his cap hit if they are smart.
Toronto has a starting goalie in Andersen. Don’t see them paying to get another one.
I don’t see SJ, paying for Murray before hitting FA. I can see them using Labanc to get out of Jones’ contract tbh.