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2022-23 Jones signing

Created by: TheAlien
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 24, 2020
Published: Jul. 24, 2020
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Description
I'm tired of seeing the same trades over and over again so I thought I'd look at the Canucks roster during the 2022-23 season if Columbus were to let Jones reach free agency. I think the cap remains flat but I raised in to 84.5mil because I can't get rid of Lu's cap recapture which would be off the books. I know some player's contracts would have expired but none would get significant raises so I get left it as is. I did give Boeser a new contract tho.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,000,000
8$10,000,000
8$10,000,000
4$2,500,000
6$3,500,000
3$1,500,000
3$1,000,000
3$1,000,000
3$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$5,000,000
4$5,000,000
5$2,000,000
2$1,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Jones, Seth
6$9,000,000
Boeser, Brock
7$7,000,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Cernak, Erik$4,000,000
2021 2nd round pick
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. 2022 7th round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Myers, Tyler
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2023 1st round pick (VAN)
2.
VAN
    2023 1st round pick (not their own unless they're good)
    DET
    1. Demko, Thatcher [RFA Rights]
    3.
    VAN
    1. Moverare, Jacob [RFA Rights]
    LAK
    1. Eriksson, Loui
    2. 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
    Additional Details:
    Done after the 2020 playoffs
    4.
    VAN
    1. 2022 7th round pick (WPG)
    Additional Details:
    Any team, Done after the 2020 playoffs
    WPG
    1. Beagle, Jay
    2. Stecher, Troy [RFA Rights]
    3. 2022 5th round pick (VAN)
    4. 2022 7th round pick (CBJ)
    5.
    VAN
      Seattle Expansion
      ANA
      1. Roussel, Antoine
      2. 2022 3rd round pick (VAN)
      6.
      VAN
        New Contract
        Recapture Fees
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2020
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        Logo of the ANA
        2021
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the VAN
        2022
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the WPG
        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        23$84,500,000$82,815,659$648,780$1,315,000$1,684,341
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $5,250,000$5,250,000
        C, LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $10,000,000$10,000,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 3
        Boeser, Brock
        $7,000,000$7,000,000
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $4,125,000$4,125,000
        C
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $925,000$925,000
        RW, LW
        RFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
        LW, RW
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $3,500,000$3,500,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        RW, C
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        LW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $10,000,000$10,000,000
        LD
        UFA - 6
        Jones, Seth
        $9,000,000$9,000,000
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        G
        UFA - 5
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
        LD
        UFA - 1
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        RD
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $811,667$811,667 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
        G
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $2,000,000$2,000,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        $2,000,000$2,000,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 2
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
        RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $3,500,000$3,500,000
        LW, RW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $860,833$860,833 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
        RD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        LD
        UFA - 1

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        Jul. 24, 2020 at 2:57 p.m.
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        We can give you Jones now if you want. We'll even pay you to take him. Winking with Tongue Out
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:04 p.m.
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        If Demko warrants a 2023 1st how do you plan on keeping through the ED with signing Markstrom? Pay Seattle to take someone else? Seems a bit odd.
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
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        Quoting: BStinson
        If Demko warrants a 2023 1st how do you plan on keeping through the ED with signing Markstrom? Pay Seattle to take someone else? Seems a bit odd.


        Markstrom signs without a NMC so they protect Demko over Markstrom
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
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        Seth Jones is not worth 9 mill
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.
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        Seth Jones is not worth 9 mill


        he would be if he didnt curve down the last two seasons. hes still young, its completely reasonable to think he can reach those heights again.
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.
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        what is that cbj trade? a first and motte for a 7th?
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.
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        Quoting: TheAlien
        Markstrom signs without a NMC so they protect Demko over Markstrom


        That doesnt protect both of them?? NMC doesnt protect player from expansion only no trade does and then at that point the team is forced to use thier protection on that player. No scenario to protect two goalies
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.
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        Quoting: TheAlien
        Markstrom signs without a NMC so they protect Demko over Markstrom

        Why would Markstrom do that though? It’s not like you’re paying over market value @5M or adding security with only 4 years.
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:24 p.m.
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        he would be if he didnt curve down the last two seasons. hes still young, its completely reasonable to think he can reach those heights again.


        Maybe, he’s a good defenseman but I see him worth no more than 6.5-7 mill. I have no doubt he’ll get 9 just because of his reputation
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.
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        That doesnt protect both of them?? NMC doesnt protect player from expansion only no trade does and then at that point the team is forced to use thier protection on that player. No scenario to protect two goalies


        If Markstrom get taken so be it but I can't see Seattle taking a 31-year-old goalie when Murray or Jarry could be available
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.
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        what is that cbj trade? a first and motte for a 7th?


        What?
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.
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        If Markstrom get taken so be it but I can't see Seattle taking a 31-year-old goalie when Murray or Jarry could be available


        They can take more than one goalie and are also required to take a min of 3 goalies
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
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        Quoting: sens2020
        They can take more than one goalie and are also required to take a min of 3 goalies


        I get that but If they have a starting goalie taking a 31-year-old backup making 5mil doesn't really make sense. But again if they do take him it doesn't really matter in this situation
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
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        Quoting: BStinson
        Why would Markstrom do that though? It’s not like you’re paying over market value @5M or adding security with only 4 years.


        I messed up it was supposed to be 5 years but I would still give him a NTC so he wouldn't be in any danger of moving but I also think any other team he signs with has a worse chance to win the cup which may play into him resigning with Vancouver
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.
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        Quoting: TheAlien
        I get that but If they have a starting goalie taking a 31-year-old backup making 5mil doesn't really make sense. But again if they do take him it doesn't really matter in this situation


        Fleury was 32 when he was taken by Vegas. I dont think Markstromm will go from a good starting goalie this year to a "31 year old backup" in less than a year. As well you do not truly think this or you wouldnt sign him to the deal above or be trying to hold onto him so badtears of joy

        I think you are just being an overly optomistic fan with unrealistic expectations as seen by your trades that all heavily favour VAN
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.
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        Quoting: sens2020
        Fleury was 32 when he was taken by Vegas. I dont think Markstromm will go from a good starting goalie this year to a "31 year old backup" in less than a year. As well you do not truly think this or you wouldnt sign him to the deal above or be trying to hold onto him so badtears of joy

        I think you are just being an overly optomistic fan with unrealistic expectations as seen by your trades that all heavily favour VAN


        It's not that he's going to be a backup but If Murray or Jarry is available they are going to be the starting goalie so if Markstrom is also available why would they take him he would have little to no value due to his age and the fact he probably has a NTC. It's not that he would be a back up it's that he would be a backup behind a better goalie. You're also the only person I've seen with any problem with the trades. The Demko trade has literally zero effect on the team. If he gets chosen so be it the team would literally be the exact same I have no idea why you're so hung up on it
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 3:58 p.m.
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        Columbus isn’t bailing you out so you can sign Jones....
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        Jul. 24, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.
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        It's not that he's going to be a backup but If Murray or Jarry is available they are going to be the starting goalie so if Markstrom is also available why would they take him he would have little to no value due to his age and the fact he probably has a NTC. It's not that he would be a back up it's that he would be a backup behind a better goalie. You're also the only person I've seen with any problem with the trades. The Demko trade has literally zero effect on the team. If he gets chosen so be it the team would literally be the exact same I have no idea why you're so hung up on it


        I just dont think you fully understand the expansion draft. Once again you are saying they can take Markstrom but he has a NTC which is not possible
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.
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        Columbus isn’t bailing you out so you can sign Jones....


        I mean it doesn't have to be to Columbus could be to literally any bottom feeder team
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.
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        I mean it doesn't have to be to Columbus could be to literally any bottom feeder team


        Then why did you make it Columbus. We aren’t going to just let Jones walk, he will likely get an extension or at least be traded before he walks.

        We aren’t taking your trash to let you sign him.
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        Jul. 24, 2020 at 4:06 p.m.
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        Quoting: sens2020
        I just dont think you fully understand the expansion draft. Once again you are saying they can take Markstrom but he has a NTC which is not possible


        A NTC is not the same as a NMC "Players with no-trade clauses only do not qualify as no-movement clauses" https://www.nhl.com/devils/news/nhl-expansion-draft-101/c-289908006
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.
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        Quoting: Ajp_18
        Then why did you make it Columbus. We aren’t going to just let Jones walk, he will likely get an extension or at least be traded before he walks.

        We aren’t taking your trash to let you sign him.


        I mean you let Panarin and Bob walk why wouldn't it be the same scenario, also I doubt you sign him Columbus doesn't really give out big contracts to anybody
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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        I mean you let Panarin and Bob walk why wouldn't it be the same scenario, also I doubt you sign him Columbus doesn't really give out big contracts to anybody


        We don’t just let them walk... Panarin wanted to sign in New York and actually took less to play there. Bob just wanted out. Both were offered extensions several times. The only player we let walk was Duchene who never even got offered a contract.

        If you don’t think Columbus would sign Jones or at least offer him more money you’re mistaken.
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.
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        Quoting: Ajp_18
        We don’t just let them walk... Panarin wanted to sign in New York and actually took less to play there. Bob just wanted out. Both were offered extensions several times. The only player we let walk was Duchene who never even got offered a contract.

        If you don’t think Columbus would sign Jones or at least offer him more money you’re mistaken.


        If he stays so be it but I built this team on the fact that he does leave which is a legit possibility. I mean has Columbus ever signed anyone to a 7+mil contract?
        Jul. 24, 2020 at 4:28 p.m.
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        Quoting: TheAlien
        A NTC is not the same as a NMC "Players with no-trade clauses only do not qualify as no-movement clauses" https://www.nhl.com/devils/news/nhl-expansion-draft-101/c-289908006


        I know..... a NTC protects the player from expansion draft but a NMC does not protect the player from expansion draft

        https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft-faq
         
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