Might be true, but I hardly see why the sharks would do that when we could do that Gourde deal ourselves. Its a steal of a deal

I'd be good with COL 2nd for Compher + 2020 4th, but that deal here is a massive overpay.

tampa is not going to have to trade a 1st round pick to move gourde.

he saw reduced playing time and had by far his worst shooting percentage season and still had 30 points in 70 games. he is a slightly overpaid middle 6 guy, compensation might go down because he can control where he goes, but that trade is wildly lopsided.

He was on pace for 40 points before the stoppage, again its like you are going out of your way to beetling his value

They will lose Cirelli or Sergachev or both of them. You can’t trade TJ YG OP ... Killorn will be dealt but the others will use their full NTC to stay in Tampa

Gambrell/Sorensen + 3rd rounder is fair for him imo. $3.5 million is a bit much for what he is as a player, but I don't hate the fit of him and Labanc in the middle 6 assuming DW finds a way to get a true 1st line RW.

This illustrates one of the issues of analytics. Gourde having positive analytics on a good team surrounded by better teammates doesn’t necessarily tell the true story of his production or his over inflated cap number. 5 more years at $5M for an undersized winger who’s production has been regressing and the majority of those years are post 30 yo. Honestly I dislike this move so much I would rather just put Kaut on the 2nd line and just ride or die. Gourde and more importantly his contract should be avoided at all costs.

I like Gourde, but Colorado can do better. It would take a nice sweetener like the above to get me to even consider it. Even then I'd rather see him on the third line with Jost and Nuke.

If the team can send him to Seattle after a year and also use some of the assets to acquire Rakell for the second line then we might have something.

Step 1: Get Gourde and a second for essentially nothing
Step 2: Send Compher, the second, and something else for Rakell
Step 3: Lose Gourde to Seattle but keep Rakell

Lots of ifs. I'd pass on this with all the other options available.

I really liked Pilut and was excited when he signed with Buffalo, but IDK about him being a top 6 defenseman for Buffalo.
He played really well in Rochester, not so much in Buffalo
I also think we did not treat him well, giving him a two way contract
Remember he started the season hurt and at the time he returned which one of Dahlin, Scandella or McCabe would he have kicked out.
He certainly would not be playing RHD with Ristolainen, Montour, Miller and Jokiharju holding down the fort.
Let's be clear, Scandella played much better last year than the previous year, it would be difficult to knock McCabe out of the line up and Dahlin is immovable.
He did not earn his way into the line up with only 8 pts in 46 games and -12 rating. Especially when Scandella was +9 and had the best PDO of all defensemen.
He was offered a one way contract it was too late.
On the other hand, I really do not want a player who takes his ball and goes home when he does not get his way (Puljujarvi).

BTW getting only a fourth for Scandella was a terrible move made even worse by trading for Frolik.

Gourde deal is awful, please take it 5 yrs at $4.5M for a small guy who has slowly disappeared since he got his extension. The only seasons he has scored 20+ his shooting percentage was 15+%.

He was healthy when Dahlin went out on 11 - 27 with a concussion for 10 games. I would have inserted him then. After Dahlin came back Scandella was move and Pilut was inserted into the lineup. I would have left him the remainder of the year there so he would have played the rest of the season once healthy

Compher would be a good fit in colorados top 6

It's tough. Gourde is solid, and if we moved donskoi i think there would be more of a need for him but i think we need more of a point producer to bring in with the 2nd line who can move to first when injuries happen. I think this would be better done after the expansion draft but odds are tampa wouldn't be looking to get rid of him as much then

I agree that he could have had more playing time, but never performed that well when he was in the line up.
He was the odd man out when a team has 7 top four defenseman.
It is great to have that much depth, but he was the one who suffered.
He also did not take advantage of the opportunity given to him.
But the bottom line is Krueger did not utilize him as well as he could have been.
I wish he would have given the Sabres more time to evaluate him.
He may still come back, we have his rights for at least another 3 seasons.
He may want to prove himself in the NHL where there is much more money as well.
I think he still could be a top 4 NHL defenseman on most teams, he just has not proven that yet.

Thank you for your feedback, much appreciated.

I agree that Gourde is still a pretty solid player. I think he gets a bad rap from fans just because he has a bad contract/NTC and because he's lost on a very deep team. The contract is bad, but get it down to $4.5m and it's actually not that bad apart from the NTC, but even then he only has a 9 team no-trade list from 2022-2025 so he could easily be traded if needed. Just seems like such a Sakic move to make to pick up an extra 1st - which could be a player that helps us on an ELC between 2023 - 2026.

He's basically been a 0.5ppg player since the 2018 playoffs.

2018-2019 Playoffs: 3 points in 6 games
2019-2020 Season: 32 points in 66 games
2019-2020 Playoffs: 6 points in 12 games
2020-2021 Season: 31 points in 67 games

Total: 72 points in 151 games = 0.477 ppg, or equivalent to 39.1 point pace over an 82 game season.

He also PK's, can play on the PP, and can play up and down the lineup at C or RW. Pretty useful player to have.

Because Gourde won't waive to a lottery team maybe? ...

I'm sure a lot of teams would offer that deal, but the crux of the matter is that Gourde actually has to waive. And if I'm him I wouldn't want to go to a team that's looking like they're soon going to be entering into a long rebuild.

Burakovsky got a 2nd + 3rd last season as a 3rd liner coming off 3 seasons with 35, 25, and 25 points. I think it's pretty safe to say that Compher would at least get a similar sort of package.

VAN should definitely decline. If they're going to pay a team picks to take a cap dump it needs to be one of Eriksson, Beagle or Roussel. I think if Baertschi actually gets back in some games next season he'll prove himself useful enough that they could actually get a late pick back for him sometime before the deadline.

I would rather have Namestinkov in the top 6 over Gourde

The fact that he can control where he goes is monumental and cripples his value.

Put yourself in Gourde's shoes. Your agent tells you that Buffalo, NJ, Detroit, and Colorado are interested. Where do you choose to waive to? So... Gourde tells his agent "Colorado". His agent calls Brisbois and tells him that Colorado is where Gourde wants to go, "make it happen, or else he stays in Tampa". Brisbois gets on the phone with Sakic.... "Hi Joe, so you're interested in Gourde? Can I offer you him for a 3rd?".... Sakic replies, "no thanks, but if you send a 1st with him and retain a bit I'll think about it. Btw, I just got off the phone with Cirelli's agent, he says he wants $6m and is happy to come to Colorado, so we're thinking of offersheeting him, just a heads up". Brisbois: "A 1st did you say? Maybe we can do that...."...

Agreed

Burakovsky was showing very good signs in his first two years before having a falling out in DC, he still has tons of potential. If I had to choose between computer and Burakovsky even last year, I would pick Burakovsky every time. Not to mention that SJ has the exact pick you traded for Burakovsky, but you want #34 instead...

If you offered the same COL pick straight for Compher, I could do that. But no way is Compher worth more than Burakovsky.

Tell Mr. Gourde to pack his bags for Syracuse then

Yeah there's plenty of team-based influence here I agree with that. I'm just playing with the idea, because he's not a terrible player. He can still be pretty useful in the right situation. But maybe that's not with Colorado.