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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 11:42 p.m.
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As top heavy as Toronto is, they’ve managed to fill out the depth wayyyyy better than Edmonton.
Jul. 28, 2020 at 11:45 p.m.
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As top heavy as Toronto is, they’ve managed to fill out the depth wayyyyy better than Edmonton.


Yea, I traded the top 4 for 2 forwards and 3 Dmen, yet the Leafs still manage to have enough forward depth to cover the difference.
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 11:49 p.m.
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As top heavy as Toronto is, they’ve managed to fill out the depth wayyyyy better than Edmonton.


Also Larsson and Hopkins are gonna need extensions. So one is gonna be gone. Everyone thinks Hopkins will go to the Rangers, lets see what happens
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Jul. 28, 2020 at 11:51 p.m.
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For now EDM. But depending on what happens with RNH and Larsson that might just change.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 12:00 a.m.
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yeah, contracts signed 6 years ago as RFA's and then include a UFA and ignore player situation and cap when the deals were all signed
what a valid comparison not at all
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 12:20 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yeah, contracts signed 6 years ago as RFA's and then include a UFA and ignore player situation and cap when the deals were all signed
what a valid comparison not at all


Jesus relax. Theres no need to be so defensive all the time
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 2:54 a.m.
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Also Larsson and Hopkins are gonna need extensions. So one is gonna be gone. Everyone thinks Hopkins will go to the Rangers, lets see what happens


Extending both shouldn't be particularly difficult for the Oilers, even with Yamamoto needing to be signed as well. Edmonton has about $3M in dead cap coming off the books for 2020-2021, and word around here appears that an RNH extension could look very similar to the Kevin Hayes deal.
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 4:19 a.m.
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Drai, McD, Nuge for 27 million and 268 points last season, and those 4 Leafs for 40.5 million and 266 points.
RNH will get around 7 mill and the Oilers already have the replacements for all those D men.
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 7:11 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yeah, contracts signed 6 years ago as RFA's and then include a UFA and ignore player situation and cap when the deals were all signed
what a valid comparison not at all


I'm pretty sure @draft_em_sign_em_trade_em is a Leafs fan...so it's not like he's out here to make St. Dubas look dumb. Chill, man. He was comparing Edmonton and Toronto. Big friggin' deal.
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 8:26 a.m.
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I'm pretty sure @draft_em_sign_em_trade_em is a Leafs fan...so it's not like he's out here to make St. Dubas look dumb. Chill, man. He was comparing Edmonton and Toronto. Big friggin' deal.


Except that he had a big ol anti dubas meltdown like an hour before making this post that has since been deleted
Jul. 29, 2020 at 8:27 a.m.
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Jesus relax. Theres no need to be so defensive all the time


yea, pointing out dumb arguments that are made just so you can rag on a gm you dont like is totally defensive
Jul. 29, 2020 at 8:58 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Except that he had a big ol anti dubas meltdown like an hour before making this post that has since been deleted


tears of joy How dare someone criticize Dubas! ALL HAIL KYLE! OUR BELOVED SAINT! What do we need? A TOP 4 SHUT DOWN RD! What will we do? TRADE FOR ONE OF THE TOP 15 3RD LINE CENTERS IN THE WORLD!
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
tears of joy How dare someone criticize Dubas! ALL HAIL KYLE! OUR BELOVED SAINT! What do we need? A TOP 4 SHUT DOWN RD! What will we do? TRADE FOR ONE OF THE TOP 15 3RD LINE CENTERS IN THE WORLD!


I mean, you made a point about how he wasnt out there "making St Dubas look dumb" and then i told you that's exactly what he's trying to do because he doesnt like Dubas and is super red and mad that the Leafs dont have enough Canadian players or some dumb crap and then you go on about a top 4 shut down D and a 3rd line center for some reason? Do you need a hug, or did you just have too much coffee this morning?
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:05 a.m.
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Yea, I traded the top 4 for 2 forwards and 3 Dmen, yet the Leafs still manage to have enough forward depth to cover the difference.


The Oilers $40M is better spent, no question. But Toronto does have better depth... of course, when you're comparing depth you're knocking off the top-4 Leafs players and the top-6 Oilers players in this mock.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:06 a.m.
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For now EDM. But depending on what happens with RNH and Larsson that might just change.


If they both leave (not likely) you'd be comparing Edmonton's $30M with Toronto's $40M... apples to oranges.
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:17 a.m.
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yea, pointing out dumb arguments that are made just so you can rag on a gm you dont like is totally defensive


You think its dumb because of the cap hits and total players involved. Its not that deep or serious. You really do get defensive about everything when it comes to the leafs. Notice how nobody else took it the way you did...
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:29 a.m.
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I mean, you made a point about how he wasnt out there "making St Dubas look dumb" and then i told you that's exactly what he's trying to do because he doesnt like Dubas and is super red and mad that the Leafs dont have enough Canadian players or some dumb crap and then you go on about a top 4 shut down D and a 3rd line center for some reason? Do you need a hug, or did you just have too much coffee this morning?


Thank you for recapping our conversation. I don't have Alzheimer's, but I do appreciate being kept up to date on what I said 5 minutes ago. There will be no hugs required, but thank you. Your obsession with Dubas around here has become very well known, and I can definitely say that I appreciate someone who follows blindly with their heart, as opposed to with any form of logic. Cheers, man!
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:30 a.m.
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You think its dumb because of the cap hits and total players involved. Its not that deep or serious. You really do get defensive about everything when it comes to the leafs. Notice how nobody else took it the way you did...


yes, i think it's dumb because it's a context-less attempt to compare two groups of player contracts that you can't compare for various reasons in an attempt to make a GM he doesnt like look bad.
That's not getting defensive, that's pointing out that it's simply a dumb comparison, and if what i say is defensive than whooo boy is EVERYONE here defensive about their team.
No one else took it the way I did because someone deleted the previous interactions where the OP had a big tantrum about not liking Dubas and then made this post just so he could rip on him some more.
See how important context is?
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:35 a.m.
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Thank you for recapping our conversation. I don't have Alzheimer's, but I do appreciate being kept up to date on what I said 5 minutes ago. There will be no hugs required, but thank you. Your obsession with Dubas around here has become very well known, and I can definitely say that I appreciate someone who follows blindly with their heart, as opposed to with any form of logic. Cheers, man!


You're welcome, you seemed to drift off there and ignore anything that wasnt you attempting to make fun of me and my possitions so clearly you needed a refresher.
And there you go again, off on a tangent about me and Dubas and ignoring the fact that I didnt start the thread trying to make Dubas look bad, I simply pointed out that it was a dumb comparison (which it is).
Why is it that people who dont care about logical arguments always say other people are ignoring logic? Like, I would LOVE to hear how this comparison of players is logical at all, or how instead of wanting to talk about how it is or is not logical, you went right to personal attacks and tried to infantize my arguments simply because you dont like what they say?
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:35 a.m.
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yes, i think it's dumb because it's a context-less attempt to compare two groups of player contracts that you can't compare for various reasons in an attempt to make a GM he doesnt like look bad.
That's not getting defensive, that's pointing out that it's simply a dumb comparison, and if what i say is defensive than whooo boy is EVERYONE here defensive about their team.
No one else took it the way I did because someone deleted the previous interactions where the OP had a big tantrum about not liking Dubas and then made this post just so he could rip on him some more.
See how important context is?


Yes you are very defensive because it does not favor the leafs. Every time there is even the slightest negative post about the leafs, you get extremely defensive. The question of this GM is "which 40 million is better spent" So instead of you answering the question and providing a reason for your opinion, you go into defensive mode.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:39 a.m.
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Yes you are very defensive because it does not favor the leafs. Every time there is even the slightest negative post about the leafs, you get extremely defensive. The question of this GM is "which 40 million is better spent" So instead of you answering the question and providing a reason for your opinion, you go into defensive mode.


you really dont know how a hockey forum works do you? The whole point is to debate hockey and if you see posts and comments that you dont agree with you talk about them. That isnt being defensive, that is talking hockey, and people say lots of very wrong and very dumb things about the Leafs, the team i cheer for, so i point that out. That is literally the point here.
Are you seriously just going to ignore the context here? Like, i keep telling you why it's a dumb comparison and that this isnt a simple out of the blue "which money is spent better" post, it was literally made because the OP wanted to prove a point from a previous thread.
or is it because you are just so defensive about it?
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:40 a.m.
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If they both leave (not likely) you'd be comparing Edmonton's $30M with Toronto's $40M... apples to oranges.


Even if they do, I think Yamamoto and Bear would fill those shoes monetary wise...
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:42 a.m.
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you really dont know how a hockey forum works do you? The whole point is to debate hockey and if you see posts and comments that you dont agree with you talk about them. That isnt being defensive, that is talking hockey, and people say lots of very wrong and very dumb things about the Leafs, the team i cheer for, so i point that out. That is literally the point here.
Are you seriously just going to ignore the context here? Like, i keep telling you why it's a dumb comparison and that this isnt a simple out of the blue "which money is spent better" post, it was literally made because the OP wanted to prove a point from a previous thread.
or is it because you are just so defensive about it?


lol ok. Say what you want, but you are extremely defensive about the leafs. Not that long ago you were upset because someone called a Marner-Matthews-Nylander line the $30 mill line lmao
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:46 a.m.
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lol ok. Say what you want, but you are extremely defensive about the leafs. Not that long ago you were upset because someone called a Marner-Matthews-Nylander line the $30 mill line lmao


I love when people just make stuff up, like you did when you got super mad and defensive that someone said Matt Murray wasnt good
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:47 a.m.
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I love when people just make stuff up, like you did when you got super mad and defensive that someone said Matt Murray wasnt good


Murray wasn't good this year lmao. And you never responded when someone called them the $30 mill line?
 
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