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Created by: Arom5477

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 29, 2020

Published: Jul. 29, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Jarry, Tristan	3	$2,777,776
Lafferty, Sam	2	$800,000
Simon, Dominik	1	$1,000,000
McCann, Jared	3	$3,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Sheary, Conor		2	$1,875,000

Trades

PIT

Miller, Colin
2021 1st round pick (BUF)

BUF

Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
Riikola, Juuso [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

This would be the value of Murray if: Pens win Stanley Cup with Murray starting most (if not all) games.

PIT

2021 3rd round pick (WPG)

WPG

Bjugstad, Nick

PIT

2021 4th round pick (PIT)

ARI

Rodrigues, Evan [RFA Rights]

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$81,500,000	$76,735,451	$0	$1,062,500	$4,764,549

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Sheary, Conor $1,875,000$1,875,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Poulin, Samuel $894,167$894,167 C, LW RFA - 4	McCann, Jared $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 3
		Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $2,777,776$2,777,776 G UFA - 3
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD UFA - 5	Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 2	Miller, Colin $3,875,000$3,875,000 RD UFA - 2
Johnson, Jack $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Simon, Dominik $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Lafferty, Sam $800,000$800,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 2
Ruhwedel, Chad $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1

Jul. 29, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.

mhockey91

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if pens win the cup with Murray as our starter.. why trade him?

Jul. 29, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.

Arom5477

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Quoting: mhockey91

if pens win the cup with Murray as our starter.. why trade him?

He'll be more expensive. Pens tend to go with the cheaper goalie who is just as good.

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Jul. 29, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.

pharrow

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Rodrigues won't be given an offer. They can't afford to and he's a backup here currently.

So anyone can get him for free.

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Jul. 29, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.

sabres89

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No chance i would move a first for a goalie.

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Jul. 29, 2020 at 3:15 p.m.

Arom5477

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Quoting: sabres89

No chance i would move a first for a goalie.

I mean no disrespect, but Carter Hutton is your starting goalie...

Jul. 29, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.

Sabres923

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Quoting: Arom5477

I mean no disrespect, but Carter Hutton is your starting goalie...

No he’s not Ullmark is.
Ullmark had .915 save percentage and got hurt when they were near a playoff spot in on Jan 28.
Hutton had a .888 save percentage with vision issues. Murray .899

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Jul. 29, 2020 at 3:30 p.m.

Yojimbo

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Miller, 2021 1st for Murray, Riikola

Pens don't hang up. Miller's $3.875M cap hit hurts a bit though. Maybe do something about that?

I am a fan of giving Riikola a shot elsewhere.

Jul. 29, 2020 at 3:44 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: Arom5477

I mean no disrespect, but Carter Hutton is your starting goalie...

No he isnt

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Jul. 29, 2020 at 4:05 p.m.

Sabres923

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Quoting: Yojimbo

Miller, 2021 1st for Murray, Riikola

Pens don't hang up. Miller's $3.875M cap hit hurts a bit though. Maybe do something about that?

I am a fan of giving Riikola a shot elsewhere.

Well luckily the Sabres won’t give up a first for a goalie that’s not even better than Ullmark.

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Jul. 29, 2020 at 4:14 p.m.

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dzmets

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Quoting: Arom5477

I mean no disrespect, but Carter Hutton is your starting goalie...

You obviously have not followed the Sabres Ulmark is there starter and performed much better than Matt Murray this year.

Jul. 29, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.

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hockeyfanatic05

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Quoting: dzmets

You obviously have not followed the Sabres Ulmark is there starter and performed much better than Matt Murray this year.

Over the course of their career, who has been better?

Jul. 29, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.

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hockeyfanatic05

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Quoting: Sabres923

No he’s not Ullmark is.
Ullmark had .915 save percentage and got hurt when they were near a playoff spot in on Jan 28.
Hutton had a .888 save percentage with vision issues. Murray .899

Again, why do you take about this past year and not their careers? Is it because it doesnt fit your side since Murray has been better over the course of their careers?

Jul. 29, 2020 at 5:32 p.m.

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sabres89

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

Again, why do you take about this past year and not their careers? Is it because it doesnt fit your side since Murray has been better over the course of their careers?

Great. You still wont get a first for him.

Jul. 29, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.

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hockeyfanatic05

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Quoting: sabres89

Great. You still wont get a first for him.

Great. Never said they would get a 1st for him. Weird how you're dodging the question though

Jul. 29, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.

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Yojimbo

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Well, apparently Sabres fans think that the black and white stat numbers are the end all.

Ullmark's ceiling is a NHL backup, and even that is not a sure thing. If you think that he is a NHL starter level... well.. you are used to not making the playoffs so expect that to continue.

Murray's trade value would mirror his RFA compensation value.

Jul. 29, 2020 at 7:04 p.m.

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dzmets

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

Over the course of their career, who has been better?

I I don't care how good Murray was several years ago. I care about how good he is now. 2 of the last 3 seasons he has been one of the worst starters in the league. That is why all penguin fans want to trade him and go with a goalie that has only had 1/2 of a good NHL season in his entire career.

Jul. 29, 2020 at 7:12 p.m.

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hockeyfanatic05

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Quoting: dzmets

And Ullmark has had 1 bad season and 1 solid season. He has proved absolutely nothing in his career. So hes better than Murray based on 34 games this year? And no, not all penguin fans want to trade Murray. The ones that do, its for performance or cap reasons

Jul. 29, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.

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dzmets

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Quoting: Yojimbo

What are you judging players on besides their performance??

Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:00 p.m.

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wondershrimp

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Why do pens fans want buffalo to have murray so bad? He's a fine goaltender but he's made of glass and certainly isn't worth a first round pick and Colin Miller

Jul. 30, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.

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dzmets

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

Jarry has proved nothing more than Ulmark and you are defending moving Murray to allow him to be the starter for performance reasons. If you take into account Jarrys career vs Ullmarks they are nearly identical.

Jul. 30, 2020 at 6:43 p.m.

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hockeyfanatic05

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Quoting: dzmets

lmao what? where did I say they should move murray and let jarry be starter?

Jul. 30, 2020 at 7:12 p.m.

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dzmets

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

lmao what? where did I say they should move murray and let jarry be starter?

Lamo I was confusing you with the OP

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