Can’t believe you still think MTL would listen at that offer, add you 2020 1st and we will CONSIDER

I think Buffalo passes on the left handed Ristolainen

I wouldnt do the BUF deal considering Pilut just signed in the KHL for 2 years. Id rather take another mid round pick instead.

I dont think Kamenevs RFA rights net you anymore than a 6th rd pk at this point.

If the addition of Domi means playing Compher on the 4th line @ 3.5mil cap hit, why not move him and keep Jost for 2mil?

then make Domi more than a career 40 point player, one 70 point season doesnt drive his market value, he would need to show more consistent being a 50-60 point guy for you to demand huge return value on him.

Domi has been on a 50+ point pace 4 out of 5 seasons so far in his career. The only time he was under that pace was coming off a broken hand where he got 45 points in Arizona. I don't know how he much more consistent you can ask a guy to be given his deployments.

So this notion of him being a "career 40 point player" is about as valid as saying he's a career 70 point player.

My previous AGM's have Graves+, but judging by recent AGM's by Montreal fans Graves for Domi 1-for-1 might be pretty close.

PaPace is nice but you dont win games with pace...career 40 point range player
2015-2016 52pts
2016-2017 38 pts
2017-2018 45 points
2018-2019 72 ponts
2019-2020 44 points

This is a guy who has been in the 40some point range the vast majority of his career with one major outlier in 2018-19

Pilut has an out clause in his KHL contract that allows him to return to the NHL if he gets offered a 1-way contract. The 2nd round pick is pretty high in 2020 as well so I think this sort of deal would be more valuable than a late 2nd + 3rd sort of deal.

You're probably right about Kamenev. Most likely he gets moved in a prospect swap trade.

Good point about Compher. The 2021/22 roster gets a bit tight cap-wise so it would certainly make sense to keep Jost instead of Compher/Donskoi rather than playing them on the 4th line. I was kinda keen to go with as strong and deep a roster as possible though, and it's certainly doable for at least 1 year.

To be fair, 3 of those seasons were with a defensively-oriented Arizona team. But I do agree with your sentiment. He's in that 40-45 point range more often than not.

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doesnt matter, production is production.

He did 72 points playing 2C
This year he did 44 points playing 3C with bottom six forward
The coach tried to place him 2LW but he didn’t want to play LW
Scouts are watching games and they know he is skilled, we see it on the ice. Playing with Drouin Shaw was good in 2019-2020, playing with bottom six winger is more hard hitting 60 points. He still end up being the 3rd best scorer in MTL this year I think

So if a guy play 2 seasons and hits 30 points in 30 games and 35 points in 35 games, he’s a 30 points player ... 3rd liner lol

Where would you see him playing with the Avs, 2LW or 3C?

Dont be dumb, I never said that.
Those are vastly full seasons.

Sure if you ignore games played it looks different. By that same logic Domi had as good a season as Landeskog since they both scored 44 points (cause you know "pace doesn't count").

2LW but he doesn’t want to play LW so no team will pay him 6M to play 3C. That’s why teams like MIN BUF CGY WPG are in need of a 2C and be willing to pay Domi 6M. We don’t want to pay Domi 6M to play 3C when we have Kotkaniemi and Poehling in the pipe line

He has been mainly healthy every season, games played is not an issue.
Landeskog is a 50ish point player on average who is exceptionally defensive, why are you bringing up Landeskog, bc you are frustrated out teams dont view Domi as a first line player?

Is domi at the same level defensively as Landeskog, no he is not

You need to understand Domi would be the 3rd best forward skilled wise in COL. Landeskog have more grit, etc but skill wise Domi would be right being MacKinnon Rantanen

I just struggle to understand how you can view a guy who has 40 points in 70 games as the being equal to a guy who has 40 points in 50 games. The production may be the same but in a full season I know which player I'd bet on to have the better season.

I don't expect people to see Domi as a 1st liner but he's far better than just some 40 point 3rd liner as some are claiming.

And by the way I think you're selling Landeskog short there.

I never once claimed him to be a 3rd liner, I said historically he has been a 40 point something player in his career, his value isnt some top line 70 point player that some Habs fans are asking for him. You wont get that return for him

He is a 2nd line player. And that is a 40-50 point guy, which is fine production for that spot. When a guy would be getting Probably 5th in TOI in colorado, behind the top line and Kadri, that is a fair expectation for him to produce.

Landeskog's career average is over 60 points. And that includes the 30 point disaster season in 2016/17.

Thats what I expect at a minimum out of Landy, 50 points and stellar defense,

Ok but my issue with that is his career average is 0.611 pts/gm which is equal to 50 pts in 82 games on average. How can people consider him a 40 point player when he clearly is a 50 point player over his career ?

Ps. That was his average minus that 72 point season, otherwise his average was 0.669 pts/gm which is around 55 points in 82 games.

I only want Domi involved if it's a 3-way where Colorado ends up with Ehlers or (dare I say) Forsberg... Damn the latter would be nice. I would totally overpay for that, lol.