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New Goalie Minimal Cap Dumps

Created by: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 29, 2020
Published: Jul. 31, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
James Neil needs to be traded either this season or next season.

Greiss would be a solid tandem goalie with Koskinen, improving Edmonton's goaltending.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
2$2,000,000
1$3,000,000
5$3,800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,500,000
1$1,600,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Faksa, Radek [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 4th round pick (DAL)
2.
EDM
  1. 2021 6th round pick (SJS)
3.
EDM
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
MTL
  1. Neal, James
  2. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Pick is lottery protected in 2020 and playoff protected in 2021
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,456,032$341,534$730,000$43,968
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
RW
RFA - 1
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
$3,800,000$3,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$915,000$915,000
C
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 3
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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Jul. 31, 2020 at 12:35 p.m.
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no thanks, we already have enough bottom sixers
Jul. 31, 2020 at 12:39 p.m.
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no thanks, we already have enough bottom sixers


I don't think so. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see anyone on the right side behind Labanc.

Chiasson would be good on the third line RW.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.
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I don't think so. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see anyone on the right side behind Labanc.

Chiasson would be good on the third line RW.


I mean people like Gambrell, True, and Noesen can all play RW. I agree he could be decent but we need to get top 6 forwards first.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.
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I mean people like Gambrell, True, and Noesen can all play RW. I agree he could be decent but we need to get top 6 forwards first.


I think if Chiassion is available for a 6th round pick there's no harm in accepting. It doesn't take away from SJSs ability to acquire a top 6 forward.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 12:46 p.m.
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I think if Chiassion is available for a 6th round pick there's no harm in accepting. It doesn't take away from SJSs ability to acquire a top 6 forward.


True but it limits the options. I also think there's better options in free agency for 2.1. Chiasson's stats and contract are very similar to Sorensen and I would like to trade Sorensen too.
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Jul. 31, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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True but it limits the options. I also think there's better options in free agency for 2.1. Chiasson's stats and contract are very similar to Sorensen and I would like to trade Sorensen too.


Its gonna be a great year for the Sens if all these guys are getting moved out for dirt cheap.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.
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This isn't bad, but it would be better if they traded Kosk to clear 4m and don't sign Griess, cause then they could get a cheap backup and a few picks from trading Kosk and sign a solid goaltender like Lehner or Holtby, but that's my opinion. This is definitely a solid team otherwise
Jul. 31, 2020 at 1:02 p.m.
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This isn't bad, but it would be better if they traded Kosk to clear 4m and don't sign Griess, cause then they could get a cheap backup and a few picks from trading Kosk and sign a solid goaltender like Lehner or Holtby, but that's my opinion. This is definitely a solid team otherwise


Who's gonna take Koskinen over signing Lehner themselves?

Moving out 4.5M is easier said than done.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 1:32 p.m.
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Stars say yes I think. Checks off two needs nicely imo
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Jul. 31, 2020 at 1:37 p.m.
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Edmonton doesn’t need to package a first with neal that’s just crazy talk and this site way over valueing cap dumps
Jul. 31, 2020 at 1:39 p.m.
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
Stars say yes I think. Checks off two needs nicely imo


Yeah I was looking at their roster when I made the ACGM. Winner really depends on Athanasiou. I don't think he's a good fit in Edmonton.

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Edmonton doesn’t need to package a first with neal that’s just crazy talk and this site way over valueing cap dumps


Just wait and see what happens.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 1:56 p.m.
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Hell no. We don’t have cap space to take on Neal even if we wanted to, and a low 1st that could be delayed as much as 2 years is just horrible compensation for a contract that bad. Marleau costed a first for $6.5 million, so going by that, it should cost you at least 2 1sts to move Neal. Not to mention that we’re giving you Byron and a 3rd for free.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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Yeah I was looking at their roster when I made the ACGM. Winner really depends on Athanasiou. I don't think he's a good fit in Edmonton.

We play a very structured defensive 1-1-3 set. If you could have AA, Guri, and Hintz on three different lines they could be the high forward. Ideally giving them chances to use their speed and finish. I think it could work nicely. I’m not sure if he’ll be a 30 goal guy for us but I think he would be an affordable threat that works well with what we already have
Jul. 31, 2020 at 2:46 p.m.
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Hell no. We don’t have cap space to take on Neal even if we wanted to, and a low 1st that could be delayed as much as 2 years is just horrible compensation for a contract that bad. Marleau costed a first for $6.5 million, so going by that, it should cost you at least 2 1sts to move Neal. Not to mention that we’re giving you Byron and a 3rd for free.

Offer isn't enough but I think there's something to exploit there. Neal's been pretty bad in Calgary but has steadily scored 20+ goals everywhere else he've played, could this be another Tatar situation where he comes back to his usual form in Montreal? OP most likely added Byron in the deal to even out the cap situation for Montreal, it isn't an horrible contract but Byron's been injury prone in the last couple of years so the thinking good.
In the end Montreal ends up eating 2.35M$ more on the cap for the same length of years for a less defensively reliable player with roughly the same production and gets a first rounder for it. The second year protection should only be something along top 7-8 protected to make it interesting enough to think about it and I think there should be just an extra little sweetener in the deal for Montreal to consider it, maybe Raphael Lavoie and MTL gives their better 3rd rounder in the deal instead of the late -or even STL 2nd-?
Jul. 31, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.
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Offer isn't enough but I think there's something to exploit there. Neal's been pretty bad in Calgary but has steadily scored 20+ goals everywhere else he've played, could this be another Tatar situation where he comes back to his usual form in Montreal? OP most likely added Byron in the deal to even out the cap situation for Montreal, it isn't an horrible contract but Byron's been injury prone in the last couple of years so the thinking good.
In the end Montreal ends up eating 2.35M$ more on the cap for the same length of years for a less defensively reliable player with roughly the same production and gets a first rounder for it. The second year protection should only be something along top 7-8 protected to make it interesting enough to think about it and I think there should be just an extra little sweetener in the deal for Montreal to consider it, maybe Raphael Lavoie and MTL gives their better 3rd rounder in the deal instead of the late -or even STL 2nd-?


Neal doesn’t try a lot of the time. Sure he has a good shot, but his effort isn’t good, and if you don’t try your absolute best, he’s going to get completely destroyed in Montreal, and he won’t be on the ice. So this is essentially dead money.

And no matter what the crazy people say, Byron is still a valuable asset to the team, and I would take him over Neal 11 times out of 10, even if you don’t take contracts into consideration. And Lavoie isn’t anything special, and he certainly isn’t anything that would cause me to want to trade for James Neal.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 3:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Hell no. We don’t have cap space to take on Neal even if we wanted to, and a low 1st that could be delayed as much as 2 years is just horrible compensation for a contract that bad. Marleau costed a first for $6.5 million, so going by that, it should cost you at least 2 1sts to move Neal. Not to mention that we’re giving you Byron and a 3rd for free.


You do realize using Marleau as an example is horrible because it’s a very completely different situation. Toronto had to pay a first to move him because he had to be bought out as part of the trade. VERY DIFFERENT
Jul. 31, 2020 at 3:42 p.m.
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I don't think Edmonton paying a 1st for get Neal's 5.75mil down to Byron's 3.4mil for 3 years instead of just buying Neal out to get the cap hit down to 1.9mil for 6 years makes sense.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.
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Chaisson would be great for
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I think if Chiassion is available for a 6th round pick there's no harm in accepting. It doesn't take away from SJSs ability to acquire a top 6 forward.


Yeah if he wasn't getting paid 2.1 million... :/

We could get someone twice as good as him for half the price elsewhere...
Jul. 31, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.
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I would rather keep the first and neal given how deep the draft is
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Jul. 31, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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Chaisson would be great for

Yeah if he wasn't getting paid 2.1 million... :/

We could get someone twice as good as him for half the price elsewhere...


Dude on ELC putting up 40+ points. That's gonna cost a 1st minimum.

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I don't think Edmonton paying a 1st for get Neal's 5.75mil down to Byron's 3.4mil for 3 years instead of just buying Neal out to get the cap hit down to 1.9mil for 6 years makes sense.


Who knows what the cap will be like. I don't like the idea of having 2M locked up for nothing for the next 6 years.

At least Byron is a useful albeit overpaid bottom 6 player.

Basically I want to take full advantage of McDavid's window.

That 1st round pick will likely be a pretty low one and have a 50% chance of being an NHLer in 4 years (mostly bottom 6 if they do make the NHL).
Jul. 31, 2020 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Who's gonna take Koskinen over signing Lehner themselves?

Moving out 4.5M is easier said than done.


Move him to Buffalo for Carter Hutton. Wouldn't be a horrible trade.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 8:07 p.m.
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Move him to Buffalo for Carter Hutton. Wouldn't be a horrible trade.


It would be good for Edmonton next year but then for this year they are in terrible shape. Greiss would need to take 55-60 starts. Edmonton only saves 1.75M in cap space.
 
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