No he must not. Leafs must not acquire heavily overpaid defensemen just because he's a vet and shoots right. And LA must not give away Turcotte

If Leafs fans are going to punt Marner off to another team because of his contract in the hopes of bringing in a RHD, make don't pick one that's more expensive than Marner.

I wouldn't trade Turcotte for Marner straight up. Turcotte has 3 years of $925k cap hit play before he gets paid. Marner gets paid 8-figures now and will be a UFA in 5 years.

Trade Matthews first. The one dimensional, Ovie goal suck clone, underwear flashing pervert, defensive liability.

marner is incredible, no one knows what turcotte is.

this trade is a steal for LA, the poster is a troll.

i agree with the 2nd last part.

AM34 has the best porn 'stache in the business.

yeah man, let's trade the 48 goal scorer because he doesn't block pucks with his face

that is unbelievably false. 48 goals and 2nd in the league in takeaways. Highly underrated defensively. He may not be laying guys out everywhere all the time but he's really come into form this year using body positioning for forechecking/backchecking and in the D zone

The Leafs will be setting themselves and even potentially digging their own grave if they trade a future 100 point playmaker. In few years time, no one will be complaining about his contract. The Leafs have to build a team around Matthews and Marner to go for a deep playoff push rather than Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares.

No it's really not. The Kings are in ideal cap shape for the first time in a decade. They have the best prospect pool in the league and a lot of those guys will need extensions. Adding Marner's contract to the mix makes them a cap team again and will cause huge problems in a few years when the kids start to sign their contracts.

Trading Doughty eliminates the only top four defenseman the Kings have left. Sure, they add an offensive powerhouse, but now Sean Walker is their best defenseman? They'll let even more goals in than Toronto did this year.

The Kings need to make smart trades to supplement their drafted core once they start to develop. This trade is not smart from a Kings perspective.

Marner must go not to LA*

this is awful for toronto. Drew Doughty's contract is 90% too much money compared to Marner's 10%

yeah, none of that stuff about Matthews hockey ability is true at all.

I think you should look at Doughty's contract, age and defensive impacts again. He is awful now, makes MORE than Marner and has a longer, boat anchor. This is a stinker for the leafs on every level

Doughty is not awful. I'm tired of having to explain this to people.

Is he the Norris trophy candidate he was 3 seasons ago? No. But he's still the #1 defenseman on more than half the teams in the league.

Doughty IS awful. I'm tired of having to explain this to people
He is not remotely close to being the number one defender on any team because he cannot defend. He is awful, like bottom of the league awful in his own end and is basically a one dimensional power play scorer who gets caved in in both shots and chances against and he is owed 11 million dollars a year for the next 7 years until he is 37.

Toronto doesn’t deserve the team they got.. seriously

even if the hockey stuff was true, imagine thinking having an ovie clone was a bad thing?

Matthews must have been a healthy scratch in the game vs. the Habs, he was invisible.

This is the opposite of true.

Doughty's offensive production is actually down. He wasn't particularly good on the power play this season or last. Kings fans on their official blog have actually been advocating for his removal from the 1PP unit.

He's actually still very good defensively (significantly better than any of the defenseman on the Leafs, Muzzin included). There's some question surrounding his nightly effort in lost seasons, which is fair, as he doesn't bring his A-game on occasion, but in every 2 out of 3 games, he's still the best defenseman on the ice.

How many Kings games have you actually watched? I haven't missed a game in over a decade, including attending most home games in person. I suspect you're reading JFresh articles and getting your Doughty information from spreadsheets. Actually watch him play a few games and get back to me.

woooooow there's been wrong on here before and there is this.
He 'feasts" on the power play because he had 5 of this 7 goals and 14 of his 35 points this year on the power play. And last year? 7 of his 9 goals 24 of his 45 points on the power play.
So yes, his offensive output IS down (another reason his contract is so horrific) and he now relies on the power play for the bulk of his scoring.

and no, he isnt good defensivly. he really isnt. like you simply have to look at the stats and it shows how bad he is. he's awful and the fact that you included Muzzin in that just shows how comically bad you have misread this situation.

I watched probably 30 or so Kings games this year, and about 40 last year and i dont really remember before that, so yes i have seen him play, and no you seeing him more does not mean you have any idea what you are talking about more than anyone. I suggest you read a few spreadsheets but dont forget to take off those rose coloured glasses because you got one hell of a tint on.
Doughty sucks and aint no one saving you from that contract.

you're really judging the guy off of one exhibition game? The guy just went through covid and couldn't skate for 3 weeks and just got back on the ice for Phase 3. So what he wasn't dominant in the one exhibition game. Also if your saying he's "invisible" he couldn't have been as bad as you say on D - you'd notice him going full Gardiner mode if that were true

Doughty has never been a particularly offensive defenseman. He's always been better at defense than offense. He's "good" offensively, but has never been especially elite in that area. He's certainly no Erik Karlsson or Brent Burns on the power play.

Defensively, he's one of the best in the game, and that's still true today. He is an elite defenseman playing for a horrible team that is learning a new system. He thrived under Terry Murray/Darryl Sutter hockey. He thrived under John Stevens hockey. Desjardins was a cluster****, and MacLellan's new system will take some getting used to. It certainly didn't help that he had to play most of the season with replacement level defensemen like Derek Forbort, Ben Hutton, and Joakim Ryan. After Martinez was traded, the Kings essentially had Doughty and five #6/7 defensemen.

I'm sure you're in the camp that thinks that Matt Roy was the best Kings defenseman this season because of what his fancy stats say. Roy played protected minutes in a limited role with better partners. He's still a 3rd pairing defenseman at best, despite his fancy stats showing that he had team-best defensive numbers. Doughty, on the other hand, is playing 25-30 minutes every night against the opposition's best players in mostly defensive-zone starts, with significant minutes on the PK. Of course his numbers aren't going to look good.

If it were 2018 again, I'd sign the Doughty contract again without hesitation. The Kings don't need saving. As I said, their cap situation is ideal.

his numbers looked bad because he got killed on the ice every time he was on it. Good defensive players on other bad teams still have good numbers, Doughty does not. He is bad defensivly. Very bad, and he's going to get worse.