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Getting sick and tired of this team

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 3, 2020
Published: Aug. 3, 2020
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I've said it before and I,ll say it again. This team only counts on their talent and isn't built for the playoffs. Dubas built a very talented team that's for sure but he also created a team with little no work ethic.

Will to win>talent, 90+ times out of 100. Change my mind.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
1$900,000
2$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Arvidsson, Viktor
  2. Ellis, Ryan
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Or something along these lines

Josi-Dermott
Ekholm-Fabbro
Ufa signing-Y.Weber

Forsberg-Johansen-Marner
Turris-Duchene(ironic these two would play on the same line)-Smith/Granlund
Tolvanen-Bonino-Grimaldi
Jarnkork-Sissons-Watson
NSH
  1. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
  2. Marner, Mitchell
Additional Details:
Add balancing picks on either side
2.
TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (DAL)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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Logo of the DAL
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,343,450$0$0$2,156,550

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$900,000$900,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 4, 2020 at 1:10 a.m.
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Nashville declines that very fast
Aug. 4, 2020 at 1:28 a.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
This is the 3rd youngest team in the league. How many times did Jordan fail before winning? Just get off it with your troll nonsense


Jordan's work ethic was never in question, even in the early years when he couldn't win a playoff rd to save his life. The Celtics dynasty and the Bad Boy Pistons had something to do with that too..... but all the same. Jordan played Defense.
From someone who isn't a Leafs fan (although I don't hate them as most Hab fans do) The young superstars on the leafs right now are still just thinking offense. I forget when it happened, but when TOR was playing WSH, Ovi said that the leafs need to learn to change how they play, and offense isn't everything, or something along those lines. I think those words from the Great 8 still ring true.
Aug. 4, 2020 at 6:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
Jordan's work ethic was never in question, even in the early years when he couldn't win a playoff rd to save his life. The Celtics dynasty and the Bad Boy Pistons had something to do with that too..... but all the same. Jordan played Defense.
From someone who isn't a Leafs fan (although I don't hate them as most Hab fans do) The young superstars on the leafs right now are still just thinking offense. I forget when it happened, but when TOR was playing WSH, Ovi said that the leafs need to learn to change how they play, and offense isn't everything, or something along those lines. I think those words from the Great 8 still ring true.


Of course more absolute nonsense. Columbus didn't have much chance for offense last game because TO played a good game defensively, they weren't only thinking offense. This is all just the same rhetoric people say with zero proof. Matthews was 3rd in the NHL in take aways. Better than Stone and yet he only thinks offense. I suppose that means he only thinks offense and gives up when he doesn't have the puck. Just the same old troll nonsense
Aug. 4, 2020 at 8:02 a.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Of course more absolute nonsense. Columbus didn't have much chance for offense last game because TO played a good game defensively, they weren't only thinking offense. This is all just the same rhetoric people say with zero proof. Matthews was 3rd in the NHL in take aways. Better than Stone and yet he only thinks offense. I suppose that means he only thinks offense and gives up when he doesn't have the puck. Just the same old troll nonsense


lol so salty. By all means then, the leafs defensive play is spot on. Plan the parade
Aug. 4, 2020 at 8:44 a.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
You are just a troll


Is this your only answer?

Her's why I'm not a troll... because I've actually done my research.

Let's just take Holl as an example. He's the Leafs' 4th most important d-man yet he'd be 5-6th in the vast majority of teams.
He's be a number 5 on any other team yet in te Leafs defensive system he's 4.

Let's go...
In BOS: he'd be behind McAvoy, Kug, Carlo, Grz and Z
In PIT: behind Marino, Letang, Pettersson and Dumoulin
In TBL:behind Hedman, McDonagh, Serg and Cernak
In PHI:behind Provorov, Sanheim, Myers, Niskanen and Braun, he's be 6th
In WSH: behind Carlson, Orlov, Kempny, Dillon and Gudas... be'd be tied with Siegenthaler.... 6th again
In CBJ: behind Jones, Werenski, Gavrikov, Murray and Savard, number 6 again
In CAR: behind DH, Slavin, Pesce, Skjei and Vatanen... I'd argue Edmundson... 6th again
In NYI: behind Pulock, Toews and Pelech... difference here is that all three of the above are better at defense than Mo and Barrie
In NYR: behind Fox, ADA, Lindgren and defensively tied with Trouba. 4th in NYR, we're rebuilding tho

In STL: behind Petro, Parayko, Dunn and Faulk and Scandella (who's immendiately linked to Parayko who's better at defense than any of the leafs defender)... 5-6th
In MIN: behind their big 4
In COL: behind Makar, Girard, Johnson, Graves and Cole. Tied with Zadorov
In CHI he's be 4-5th
In WIN he'd be 4th
In EDM: behind Klefbom, Nurse, Bear and Larsson. 5th
In CGY: behind Gio, Brodie, Andersson and Hanifin.
In VAN: behind Hughes, Edler, Myers and Tanev
In VGK: behind Theodore, Schmidt, Martinez and McNabb
In DAL: behind MH, Klingberg, Lindell and Oleksiak
IN NSH: behind Josi, Ellis and EKholm and tied with Fabbro

Starting to notice a pattern here? In the VAST majority of the teams listed above, Holl would be a 5th or even 6th in some cases. Yet he's the 4th most important d-man in TOR because Dubas didn't do ANYTHING to fix the Leafs D-core in the 2019 offseason. Added noted elite d-man Barrie to «FiX tHe DeFeNsE» and noted analytical darling Cody freaking Ceci. His autistic «wE cAN aNd We WiLL» mentality didn't help the Leafs in the slightest.
Aug. 4, 2020 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
lol so salty. By all means then, the leafs defensive play is spot on. Plan the parade


What I said was, they played a good defensive game in game one but didn't have the offense going. To suggest they didn't play defence in game 1 is without proof
Aug. 4, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Is this your only answer?

Her's why I'm not a troll... because I've actually done my research.

Let's just take Holl as an example. He's the Leafs' 4th most important d-man yet he'd be 5-6th in the vast majority of teams.
He's be a number 5 on any other team yet in te Leafs defensive system he's 4.

Let's go...
In BOS: he'd be behind McAvoy, Kug, Carlo, Grz and Z
In PIT: behind Marino, Letang, Pettersson and Dumoulin
In TBL:behind Hedman, McDonagh, Serg and Cernak
In PHI:behind Provorov, Sanheim, Myers, Niskanen and Braun, he's be 6th
In WSH: behind Carlson, Orlov, Kempny, Dillon and Gudas... be'd be tied with Siegenthaler.... 6th again
In CBJ: behind Jones, Werenski, Gavrikov, Murray and Savard, number 6 again
In CAR: behind DH, Slavin, Pesce, Skjei and Vatanen... I'd argue Edmundson... 6th again
In NYI: behind Pulock, Toews and Pelech... difference here is that all three of the above are better at defense than Mo and Barrie
In NYR: behind Fox, ADA, Lindgren and defensively tied with Trouba. 4th in NYR, we're rebuilding tho

In STL: behind Petro, Parayko, Dunn and Faulk and Scandella (who's immendiately linked to Parayko who's better at defense than any of the leafs defender)... 5-6th
In MIN: behind their big 4
In COL: behind Makar, Girard, Johnson, Graves and Cole. Tied with Zadorov
In CHI he's be 4-5th
In WIN he'd be 4th
In EDM: behind Klefbom, Nurse, Bear and Larsson. 5th
In CGY: behind Gio, Brodie, Andersson and Hanifin.
In VAN: behind Hughes, Edler, Myers and Tanev
In VGK: behind Theodore, Schmidt, Martinez and McNabb
In DAL: behind MH, Klingberg, Lindell and Oleksiak
IN NSH: behind Josi, Ellis and EKholm and tied with Fabbro

Starting to notice a pattern here? In the VAST majority of the teams listed above, Holl would be a 5th or even 6th in some cases. Yet he's the 4th most important d-man in TOR because Dubas didn't do ANYTHING to fix the Leafs D-core in the 2019 offseason. Added noted elite d-man Barrie to «FiX tHe DeFeNsE» and noted analytical darling Cody freaking Ceci. His autistic «wE cAN aNd We WiLL» mentality didn't help the Leafs in the slightest.


You are just sour. I don't care to hear any more of your anti leaf rhetoric. It's garbage.
Aug. 4, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
You are just sour. I don't care to hear any more of your anti leaf rhetoric. It's garbage.


Again, didn’t bother to address any of my points because deep down you know I’m right. GTFO, new member of my ignore list squad
Aug. 4, 2020 at 1:35 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Again, didn’t bother to address any of my points because deep down you know I’m right. GTFO, new member of my ignore list squad


Holl is a fine defender he doesn't lose you games. Piling on him and ignoring the other young guys coming up the pipe is typical leaf troll rhetoric.
Aug. 4, 2020 at 6:05 p.m.
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Again, didn’t bother to address any of my points because deep down you know I’m right. GTFO, new member of my ignore list squad


Holl tonight lol
 
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