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Wild way to keep the captain

Created by: dp6154
Team: 2020-21 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 4, 2020
Published: Aug. 4, 2020
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OK, I still think that the Blues use Husso as the backup goalie next year. This is one scenario that I find realistic where that changes and in that case Stalock stays there for depth and if he crashes Chad Johnson style or Husso proves very ready he gets dealt

Also lots of people have pointed out that Steen can be bought out and even resign with the Blues for the min. i wondered if the Blues do that much for just over 1M in savings but honestly I hadn't really floated that too much but it could happen and Bozak could then be the guy dealt which doesn't cost a pick and that closes the 700k gap between the two. I do have another scenario with a 2 year plan that trades Allen and Steen together with a first to DEtroit which I also see as realistic but this is a more complex but I think realistic way to go

Also of Gunnarsson going to Minny I think fits with their depth but that does not mean I think they let Soucy walk or that Gunnarsson can't just go to NJD or Toronto or somewhere else for a pick, I bet the Wild keep Soucy, but this gives them depth for negotiating leverage, improves their D either way and if Soucy still returns there as I think he will then Pateryn or Hunt can be the 7D and the other can be dealt (likely Hunt for a higher return). Allen is a fit with Minnesota being so good at everything but goaltending and Allen offering essentially a one year tryout that should fix that problem then they can extend him if he's a fit or are free to handle goaltending from scratch however they want if he bombs (and of course they do this thinking he will work out)

This will be my second 2 year plan after https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/343240?post_id=1573121
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$3,000,000
2$750,000
2$850,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
3$950,000
2$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$9,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Steen, Alexander
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Stalock, Alex
  2. 2021 4th round pick (MIN)
2.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$71,998,015$306,349$425,000$9,501,985

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 8
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$758,333$758,333
RW
UFA - 1
Steen, Alexander
$1,000,000$1,000,000
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$1,475,000$1,475,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$785,000$785,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$787,500$787,500
LD
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1

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Aug. 4, 2020 at 12:02 p.m.
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Steen cannot resign with the Blues if he is brought out, that is cap circumvention and was clarified following the Orpik deal.
Aug. 4, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Seider53
Steen cannot resign with the Blues if he is brought out, that is cap circumvention and was clarified following the Orpik deal.


From what I understand, a team can re-sign a bought-out player unless it was a CBO, which explains why the Flames were able to re-sign Michael Stone
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Aug. 4, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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From what I understand, a team can re-sign a bought-out player unless it was a CBO, which explains why the Flames were able to re-sign Michael Stone


I can't find it so you may be right. I had a strong memory of what happened with Orpik being deemed illegal in future, though you are right in that it seems to have happened with Stone. I may well be mistaken.
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Aug. 4, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
From what I understand, a team can re-sign a bought-out player unless it was a CBO, which explains why the Flames were able to re-sign Michael Stone


The flames bought him out themselves AND took the cap hit of both the buyout and his new contract
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Aug. 4, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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I can't find it so you may be right. I had a strong memory of what happened with Orpik being deemed illegal in future, though you are right in that it seems to have happened with Stone. I may well be mistaken.


Probably because Washington didn't have to deal with the buy-out themselves
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Aug. 4, 2020 at 12:39 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
From what I understand, a team can re-sign a bought-out player unless it was a CBO, which explains why the Flames were able to re-sign Michael Stone


yeah this is what I thought was the case. If not, Steen would walk and Liars or DLR would fill his spot in the lineup which would be a setback but not a huge one but I think we're both right that this is doable
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Aug. 4, 2020 at 1:15 p.m.
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I doubt the Wild trade us Stalock and Andersson is gonna be a no from me, dawg.
Aug. 4, 2020 at 1:57 p.m.
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Why would the Wild want to help out a division rival with their cap problem with moves that help them less than moves they could make in free agency? Stalock is cheap and has been good enough when the team needed him. It's far more likely they buyout/bury Dubnyk and replace him with Kahkonen or a UFA. There's a few options and with a stagnant cap and lots of teams up against the cap, those UFAs won't have the leverage they would have had in years past to seek term or a big cap hit.
Aug. 4, 2020 at 3:45 p.m.
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Yes it sucks to buyout Steen, but we are trying to win Stanley Cups. We can give him the option of “retiring” and being hired as a coach, or stick him on LTIR, or, if we get dunn for super cheap (anything under 2.5 mil) we can keep him and have a 22 man roster. The Andersson trade has been debated a lot, I’ve said that I’m a fan just because I like the idea of taking a chance on a talented player instead of a mid round pick. I would be fine with a similar type prospect from another team. First ones that come to mind that I’ve seen are Stanley from WPG and, dare I say it, Tage Thompson from Buffalo. That will probably never happen but we should look at guy the organization has more or less given up on but may thrive somewhere else. Fee free to quote this with suggestions, I’m making another team rn.
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