Dubas taking notes from Masai

Forums/Armchair-GM

Page 1 of 1

Created by: leafschamp

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2020

Published: Aug. 5, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Obviously RHD is the position Toronto wants to Improve on. Columbus was reportedly high on Marner last season when he was an RFA. With Marner, Columbus gets an offensive weapon they need who plays penalty kill as well. They also get Dermott who could blossom to a solid top 4 for years to come. You also get Bracco who hasn't had an opportunity with the leafs but was at one time considered a very good prospect for Toronto who may thrive given an opportunity in Columbus...a bit of a gamble. Toronto gets the #1 RHD d man they're looking for as well as a veteran presence for their bottom 6 forward group. RHD is at a premium and one of the best in the league in his prime will not cost cheap. All in all, I highly doubt Columbus ever considers trading Jones (unless he's thinking about testing free agency) and also I highly doubt Toronto trades Marner (if there's one player I believe has the best chance to stay a Leaf for his career on the roster, it's Marner).

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya	2	$2,250,000
Gauthier, Frédérik	2	$925,000
Malgin, Denis	2	$925,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Clifford, Kyle		2	$1,750,000

Trades

TOR

Jones, Caleb
2021 3rd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Johnsson, Andreas

TOR

CBJ

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$78,706,783	$0	$400,000	$2,793,217

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 4
Robertson, Nicholas $821,667$821,667 LW, RW RFA - 4	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5	Mikheyev, Ilya $2,250,000$2,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Barabanov, Alexander $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 3	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 2
Clifford, Kyle $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW UFA - 2	Engvall, Pierre $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
		Nash, Riley $2,750,000$2,750,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Jones, Seth $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 2	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 2	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Lehtonen, Mikko $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1
Gauthier, Frédérik $925,000$925,000 C UFA - 1
Malgin, Denis $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.

Ajp_18

Joined: Mar. 2018

Posts: 9,851

Likes: 6,441

NO.... Columbus isn’t trading Jones for Marner. We can’t afford Marners contract and when Savard leaves as a UFA Columbus won’t have a top 4 RHD.

Nhl_oilers and Viqsi liked this.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.

Nhl_oilers

Joined: Mar. 2019

Posts: 7,990

Likes: 4,210

And Edmonton isn’t trading Jones for Johnsson. We also don’t have the cap, and that’s too much to give for him.

arab05 liked this.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.

Unbiased_Hawks_Fan

Unbiased Hawks Fan

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 373

Likes: 138

As good as he is, Marner's contract is immovable.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.

MMXD

Joined: Mar. 2020

Posts: 2,679

Likes: 696

I like the jones idea

TWOminutes4surging liked this.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:50 p.m.

Nhl_oilers

Joined: Mar. 2019

Posts: 7,990

Likes: 4,210

Quoting: MMXD

I like the jones idea

Which one? Haha

Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.

Viqsi

mostly harmless

Joined: Feb. 2016

Posts: 6,601

Likes: 3,095

No. Every Seth Jones proposal. All of them. The answer is no.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Banned

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 24,997

Likes: 7,855

Quoting: Ajp_18

NO.... Columbus isn’t trading Jones for Marner. We can’t afford Marners contract and when Savard leaves as a UFA Columbus won’t have a top 4 RHD.

Columbus reportedly offered Marner and offersheet, so apparently they were willing to pay him big money. But let's just go with no one wants a 90+ point player because it's smarter to pay 3 guys the same amount to watch them all score 30 points.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.

Tkachinla

Joined: Jul. 2016

Posts: 2,231

Likes: 401

Gaudreau for Marner straight up. TOR gets the cap savings. And gets much worse.

Let's do it.

There is no deal that TOR and CLB could strike that sees Jones leaving CLB...Jones is 50% the cap hit of Marner...and even if TOR could afford to split the difference by retaining salary on Marner, Jones is far more valuable. We're talking about a Top 5 RD in the entire league here...in his prime...at a $5.4M cap hit...and with a NTC.

Would need to get really, really creative with a third team involved to somehow make it work. Even then, the price for Jones is astronomical.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 6:26 p.m.

Ajp_18

Joined: Mar. 2018

Posts: 9,851

Likes: 6,441

Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Offersheet is different. Trading your best player for him is something else. Columbus would have to move someone else to make the cap work and now we’re down Jones and that other player for Marner at the very least and for a team built on defence trading their best defenseman for a wing isn’t a good option. Would I pay 4 1sts and no signs Nyqvist for Marner 100%. Would I trade Jones+ for Marner not a chance. Columbus adds Marner to the roster those 1sts are early 20s, we move Jones for Marner and Columbus is really not much better Or even better at all then they are now if PLD is the other player who leaves via an offersheet that MTL keeps threatening.

Viqsi liked this.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 8:14 p.m.

#10

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Banned

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 24,997

Likes: 7,855

Quoting: Ajp_18

You offence is a problem, having a 90 point player makes you a better team. Even at the cost of Jones. You do have good depth on D. That is clear.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 8:18 p.m.

#11

MMXD

Joined: Mar. 2020

Posts: 2,679

Likes: 696

Quoting: Nhl_oilers

Which one? Haha

Damn right, the Caleb Jones idea

Nhl_oilers liked this.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.

#12

Ajp_18

Joined: Mar. 2018

Posts: 9,851

Likes: 6,441

Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

You offence is a problem, having a 90 point player makes you a better team. Even at the cost of Jones. You do have good depth on D. That is clear.

If you mean 3rd pair players or a constantly injured Murray sure. This also means we probably have to lose both Savard and Murray to make the 11 mil contract work.

You’re right offense is the issue, but there’s other ways to fix that that don’t give your roster a crippling whole, because Savard and Jones are the only 2 RHD we have and Peeke is the only one who’s top 4 rated prospect. I’ve come to realize that Columbus d strength is on the left side, we have a good, but very limited right side, we can’t afford to move one for a wing. Maybe for a center, but not a wing.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 9:07 p.m.

#13

Viqsi

mostly harmless

Joined: Feb. 2016

Posts: 6,601

Likes: 3,095

Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

You offence is a problem, having a 90 point player makes you a better team. Even at the cost of Jones. You do have good depth on D. That is clear.

There's literally nothing the Leafs have that makes giving up Jones worthwhile. (Well, maybe Matthews would do, although we'd be in contract trouble as a result).

If you'd like those four 1sts in exchange for Marner, though (replicating the offersheet scenario), then let's talk.

Aug. 5, 2020 at 11:15 p.m.

#14

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Banned

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 24,997

Likes: 7,855

Quoting: Ajp_18

Depends on what the GM is going to be facing pressure wise. If you can't score enough to win, that's going to put heat under management.

Page 1 of 1

DISPLAY SETTING

BETTING ODDS

LOCALE

ARCHIVE

CBA

CALCULATORS

FANTASY HOCKEY TOOLS

TOOLS

PLAYERS

WESTERN CONFERENCE

EASTERN CONFERENCE

INTERACTIVE FEATURES

Forums/Armchair-GM