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Moves Vancouver Can Make This Offseason

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Team: 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2020
Published: Aug. 5, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$825,000
2$2,350,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,350,000
2$5,350,000
4$6,650,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Ho-Sang, Joshua$825,000No Compensation
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Fiala, Kevin
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
2.
VAN
  1. Hickey, Thomas
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (NYI)
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Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$77,367,711$1,700,000$4,800,000$4,132,289

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 3
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$825,000$825,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,375,000$4,375,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,350,000$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
$6,650,000$6,650,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
G
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$860,833$860,833 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:07 p.m.
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Not sure why minny or NYi would be inclined to do either of those trades
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Not sure why minny or NYi would be inclined to do either of those trades

The nyi trade was just to get a bit more cap space
Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.
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The nyi trade was just to get a bit more cap space


Bro islanders have cap problem next season no way they do that
Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:16 p.m.
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Why would the islanders want Tyler Myers
Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.
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Islanders can't afford that, nor do we want Myers (although I'm sure LL would love him, and he's the one making decisions, right?).

That said, I'm interested in hearing what the asking price might be for Jake Virtanen.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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Can's see us making a 1 for 1 swap, let alone adding a pick. Fiala is our gamebreaker, we aren't trading him.
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 5, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
I'm not sure why you posted this. You posted the Fiala/Boeser trade idea in the TM earlier. You specifically asked if it was possible if could happen or not. Pretty much every response you got was that neither team would do it.

So why post it again here?

But just for the sake of argument. Let's go ahead and break this down. Bit by bit.

1) Why would Vancouver not do this trade.

They can't afford to, they don't have the cap necessary to take on Fiala. Fiala's going to need a new contract within the next year, and it will not be cheap. He's likely going to cost anywhere between $5.8M-$8M.

That's more than Boeser, even on the low end. If, and I stress that IF Boeser can stay healthy his next contract probably tops out at $6.5M, if not, he stays at about where he is.

This makes sense as Fiala has likely the potential to be the better player.

2) IF Vancouver had the cap necessary, they make this trade in a heartbeat I think. Although I feel like the pick is going the wrong way.

3) Why the Wild wouldn't do this trade.

As already stated above, we have no desires to move our best player for Boeser. It defeats our entire purpose in trying to acquire him in the first place.

Let's look at what this team needs in order for it to reach contender status.

3A) Competent 1a/1b goaltending or an elite 1G
3B) A legitimate 1C or top 6 center who can handle 1C duties.
3C) Overhaul our top six to have 3-4 high-end finishers.
3D) At least one of these high-end players needs to be a RHS.

Fiala is high-end player number 1 and the face of our franchise. Kaprizov is high-end player number 2 and gives us a dual threat. To this effect, the Wild would be looking to add Boeser as high-end threat number 3 on top of the other two and to get that RHS finisher all in one.

Boldy or Beckman look to be our internal options for threat number 4. Or number 3 sans Boeser.

I have no doubt the Wild and Guerin may very well may make a play for Boeser, but it won't involve Fiala.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 7:34 p.m.
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I'm not sure why you posted this. You posted the Fiala/Boeser trade idea in the TM earlier. You specifically asked if it was possible if could happen or not. Pretty much every response you got was that neither team would do it.

So why post it again here?

But just for the sake of argument. Let's go ahead and break this down. Bit by bit.

1) Why would Vancouver not do this trade.

They can't afford to, they don't have the cap necessary to take on Fiala. Fiala's going to need a new contract within the next year, and it will not be cheap. He's likely going to cost anywhere between $5.8M-$8M.

That's more than Boeser, even on the low end. If, and I stress that IF Boeser can stay healthy his next contract probably tops out at $6.5M, if not, he stays at about where he is.

This makes sense as Fiala has likely the potential to be the better player.

2) IF Vancouver had the cap necessary, they make this trade in a heartbeat I think. Although I feel like the pick is going the wrong way.

3) Why the Wild wouldn't do this trade.

As already stated above, we have no desires to move our best player for Boeser. It defeats our entire purpose in trying to acquire him in the first place.

Let's look at what this team needs in order for it to reach contender status.

3A) Competent 1a/1b goaltending or an elite 1G
3B) A legitimate 1C or top 6 center who can handle 1C duties.
3C) Overhaul our top six to have 3-4 high-end finishers.
3D) At least one of these high-end players needs to be a RHS.

Fiala is high-end player number 1 and the face of our franchise. Kaprizov is high-end player number 2 and gives us a dual threat. To this effect, the Wild would be looking to add Boeser as high-end threat number 3 on top of the other two and to get that RHS finisher all in one.

Boldy or Beckman look to be our internal options for threat number 4. Or number 3 sans Boeser.

I have no doubt the Wild and Guerin may very well may make a play for Boeser, but it won't involve Fiala.


Seems more likely the wild would deal from the backend to bring in a top 6 forward, rather than a same-position swap. Makes no sense for either team.

Vancouver also has a lot of marketing and business capital sunk into boeser, so trading him hurts the brand even if it’s for a better player. Unless the Canucks are becoming a significantly better team by trading boeser, I can’t see them doing it, even for fiala.

Maybe Dumba and the 2nd would be more up tha Canucks ally, but again the Canucks would be hesitant despite the fact they are improving the team
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 7:59 p.m.
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Seems more likely the wild would deal from the backend to bring in a top 6 forward, rather than a same-position swap. Makes no sense for either team.

Vancouver also has a lot of marketing and business capital sunk into boeser, so trading him hurts the brand even if it’s for a better player. Unless the Canucks are becoming a significantly better team by trading boeser, I can’t see them doing it, even for fiala.

Maybe Dumba and the 2nd would be more up tha Canucks ally, but again the Canucks would be hesitant despite the fact they are improving the team


Exactly.

It would be the best option trade wise for Boeser. Problem is the Knucks can't reasonably afford Dumba either. Too many bad contracts in their bottom 6 and Myers contract screws it up even more.

Throw in wanting to resign Toffoli and Tanev.

Youch.

I personally think something along the lines of Donato, Menell, Boldy, and our 2021 2nd might be something the Knucks could be willing to take for Boeser.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
Exactly.

It would be the best option trade wise for Boeser. Problem is the Knucks can't reasonably afford Dumba either. Too many bad contracts in their bottom 6 and Myers contract screws it up even more.

Throw in wanting to resign Toffoli and Tanev.

Youch.

I personally think something along the lines of Donato, Menell, Boldy, and our 2021 2nd might be something the Knucks could be willing to take for Boeser.


Canucks cap problems are overblown, if I’m being honest. Many posters in here have found ways of making the cap work despite the bad bottom 6 contracts. If boeser is dealt and a defensemen is the return, simply unloading a couple of players like Pearson and Virtanen makes cap compliance quite simple.

Still, I think the best case for the Canucks is to keep boeser. He’s to valuable as a scoring threat for them to get rid of him
 
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