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Mind Blowing

Created by: gregb569
Initial Creation Date: Aug 6, 2020
Published: Aug 6 at 5:32
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
It's absolutely mind blowing to me that Sully thought it was a better idea to scratch McCann than JJ. Like is he F'ing reet?
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
27$81,500,000$85,332,875$132,500$982,500-$3,832,875
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
Sheary, Conor
$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Bjugstad, Nick
$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Rodrigues, Evan
$2,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Angello, Anthony
$833,750
C
RFA - 1
PIT
Marleau, Patrick
$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$767,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug 6 at 5:36
#1
Olof for Vezina
Joined: Oct 2018
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POJ would be better than Jack Johnson.


Oh btw I hope you know the NHL is rigging it for Pittsburgh again. There is literally no excuse to lose to MTL, with this roster, starting a backup, AND the poor coaching decisions. I hate this league.
Aug 6 at 5:39
#2
Nicholas Chamoun
Joined: Mar 2017
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
POJ would be better than Jack Johnson.


Oh btw I hope you know the NHL is rigging it for Pittsburgh again. There is literally no excuse to lose to MTL, with this roster, starting a backup, AND the poor coaching decisions. I hate this league.



there’s no rigging. the pens are just not managed well rn. that’s the sad reality. they’re a better team than MTL, but MTL is just better managed and is more hungry. updates happen. if the pens win laffy, everyone will say it’s rigged lol. fr if that happens i’ll just shoot myself lol
Aug 6 at 5:39
#3
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gregb569
Joined: Feb 2019
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
POJ would be better than Jack Johnson.


Oh btw I hope you know the NHL is rigging it for Pittsburgh again. There is literally no excuse to lose to MTL, with this roster, starting a backup, AND the poor coaching decisions. I hate this league.


With the way they've played these 3 games, I'd 100% rather them lose & get Laf.
No way in hell this team is going anywhere with this level of play..
Aug 6 at 5:41
#4
Olof for Vezina
Joined: Oct 2018
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Quoting: DriveFor25
there’s no rigging. the pens are just not managed well rn. that’s the sad reality. they’re a better team than MTL, but MTL is just better managed and is more hungry. updates happen. if the pens win laffy, everyone will say it’s rigged lol. fr if that happens i’ll just shoot myself lol


I think MTL is just underrated. I mean seriously they are playing fantastic hockey.
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Aug 6 at 5:42
#5
Nicholas Chamoun
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
I think MTL is just underrated. I mean seriously they are playing fantastic hockey.


yeah they’re definitely underrated imo. when their young core is ready they’ll be good. can’t wait for caufield.
Aug 6 at 5:42
#6
Olof for Vezina
Joined: Oct 2018
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Quoting: gregb569
With the way they've played these 3 games, I'd 100% rather them lose & get Laf.
No way in hell this team is going anywhere with this level of play..

Oh well of course you would. I've wanted to lose to CAR for months and now I've lost hope because PIT is gonna lose and I'll have to witness another Crosby fiasco. It sucks. We haven't won in decades. They just won 2 stanley cups and are already getting another superstar? Just so unfortunate but so Rangers.
Aug 6 at 5:43
#7
Olof for Vezina
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Quoting: DriveFor25
yeah they’re definitely underrated imo. when their young core is ready they’ll be good. can’t wait for caufield.


Imagine if Romanov was eligible. Goodness.
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Aug 6 at 5:58
#8
Nicholas Chamoun
Joined: Mar 2017
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Imagine if Romanov was eligible. Goodness.


oh boyyyy. cant wait to see him play. finna take my galchenyuk jersey and put a romanov name plate over it at this point xd. fr i would’ve been even more happy to see romanov play. habs, rangers, avs (already good), canes (already good), ottawa and la are some teams with bright futures IMO can’t wait to see them at the top of the rankings. all those teams are pretty likeable overall too (least likeable being habs and rangers bc they have a lot of rivals). gonna be fun.
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Aug 6 at 6:42
#9
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 3,011
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
POJ would be better than Jack Johnson.


Oh btw I hope you know the NHL is rigging it for Pittsburgh again. There is literally no excuse to lose to MTL, with this roster, starting a backup, AND the poor coaching decisions. I hate this league.


So the NHL is rigging it by having Carey Price play elite? Or did the NHL tell Rutherford to not improve the 3rd line so pittsburgh has to rely on their 1st 2 lines? Or did the NHL tell Rutherford years ago to sign Jack Johnson to an asinine contract and never scratch him for this exact reason? If you really break down their roster, its really not that impressive outside of Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Zucker, Rust, Marino, Letang, Dumo. Thats a good group of players, but their depth isn't there. Im not saying the lottery isn't rigged, but I dont get how youre under the assumption its being rigged for pittsburgh
Aug 6 at 7:11
#10
Joined: Feb 2019
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
So the NHL is rigging it by having Carey Price play elite? Or did the NHL tell Rutherford to not improve the 3rd line so pittsburgh has to rely on their 1st 2 lines? Or did the NHL tell Rutherford years ago to sign Jack Johnson to an asinine contract and never scratch him for this exact reason? If you really break down their roster, its really not that impressive outside of Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Zucker, Rust, Marino, Letang, Dumo. Thats a good group of players, but their depth isn't there. Im not saying the lottery isn't rigged, but I dont get how youre under the assumption its being rigged for pittsburgh



I think what’s he’s saying is if pit loses and the league is given the opportunity to up AL on a team where it will be “better” for the league. It will be pit. Cause fla, nyr, ari, nsh, min, cbj, cal or winn aren’t that team to help the league like giving the best player in the league the best prospect coming into the league. But for it not to be rigged and they win AL something will be fishy. They better do that lotto in person on live tv and show everyone all the balls they put in the basket lol
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Aug 6 at 7:15
#11
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Quoting: Hockey91
I think what’s he’s saying is if pit loses and the league is given the opportunity to up AL on a team where it will be “better” for the league. It will be pit. Cause fla, nyr, ari, nsh, min, cbj, cal or winn aren’t that team to help the league like giving the best player in the league the best prospect coming into the league. But for it not to be rigged and they win AL something will be fishy. They better do that lotto in person on live tv and show everyone all the balls they put in the basket lol


Yeah, im definitely not disagreeing that it would be fishy if the pens did end up with Laff, but couldnt there be a case made for a few other teams as well? Like for the rangers, the NHL could "rig" it so a franchise player goes to the big apple and plays with an already stacked prospect pool. Or the Islanders and Laff and Barzal could be the next unstoppable duo. ARZ so he could be the savior of the franchise.
Aug 6 at 7:20
#12
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Yeah, im definitely not disagreeing that it would be fishy if the pens did end up with Laff, but couldnt there be a case made for a few other teams as well? Like for the rangers, the NHL could "rig" it so a franchise player goes to the big apple and plays with an already stacked prospect pool. Or the Islanders and Laff and Barzal could be the next unstoppable duo. ARZ so he could be the savior of the franchise.

Oh there’s for sure a case for each team especially the small market teams like my panthers who absolutely will need laf after dadonov and hoffman leave or Arizona to help grow the markets in those areas. But if the rangers win it at least they weren’t a playoff team and still aren’t very good like pit.
Aug 6 at 7:30
#13
Joined: May 2016
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Isn't it EDM's turn to get 1oa? The draft somehow just doesn't seem right if EDM isn't picking 1st. sarcasm
Aug 6 at 7:40
#14
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gregb569
Joined: Feb 2019
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Quoting: wabit
Isn't it EDM's turn to get 1oa? The draft somehow just doesn't seem right if EDM isn't picking 1st. sarcasm


5 1st overall picks in 1 decade isn't enough
Aug 6 at 7:45
#15
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
I think MTL is just underrated. I mean seriously they are playing fantastic hockey.


Quoting: DriveFor25
yeah they’re definitely underrated imo. when their young core is ready they’ll be good. can’t wait for caufield.


It's just as likely Pittsburgh is overrated - it's really Price that stole Game 1 - Habs certainly earned the Game 3 win as a team
Aug 6 at 7:45
#16
Nicholas Chamoun
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Quoting: Boomer125
It's just as likely Pittsburgh is overrated - it's really Price that stole Game 1 - Habs certainly earned the Game 3 win as a team


tbh it’s both
Aug 6 at 7:46
#17
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gregb569
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Quoting: Boomer125
It's just as likely Pittsburgh is overrated - it's really Price that stole Game 1 - Habs certainly earned the Game 3 win as a team


Pittsburgh isn't overrated we're just not playing well. Our 3rd pair D is a huge weakness, but other than that we're solid 1-4 F 1-2 D.

3rd line hasn't played well, but I'd hardly call a 3rd line consisting of Patty-McCann-Horny a weakness.
Aug 6 at 7:50
#18
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Quoting: gregb569
5 1st overall picks in 1 decade isn't enough


They only have 2 on their team currently. Thought it was some weird bylaw that they must have 3+ on their roster at all times? sarcasm
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Aug 6 at 8:58
#19
Olof for Vezina
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
So the NHL is rigging it by having Carey Price play elite? Or did the NHL tell Rutherford to not improve the 3rd line so pittsburgh has to rely on their 1st 2 lines? Or did the NHL tell Rutherford years ago to sign Jack Johnson to an asinine contract and never scratch him for this exact reason? If you really break down their roster, its really not that impressive outside of Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Zucker, Rust, Marino, Letang, Dumo. Thats a good group of players, but their depth isn't there. Im not saying the lottery isn't rigged, but I dont get how youre under the assumption its being rigged for pittsburgh


Carey Price hasn't been elite. The defense has been solid and he's been playing balanced for a change. Penguins look as deflated as a balloon. All those top guns are gun-shy all the sudden eh? Where's that playoff Guentzel? Zucker? Crosby? Malkin? Rust? how about that solid PK unit? all look super shot. It couldn't be more obvious and knowing you guys will have our number for another decade because of this Bettman-Pittsburgh relationship pisses me right off.
Aug 6 at 2:00
#20
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Carey Price hasn't been elite. The defense has been solid and he's been playing balanced for a change. Penguins look as deflated as a balloon. All those top guns are gun-shy all the sudden eh? Where's that playoff Guentzel? Zucker? Crosby? Malkin? Rust? how about that solid PK unit? all look super shot. It couldn't be more obvious and knowing you guys will have our number for another decade because of this Bettman-Pittsburgh relationship pisses me right off.


Come on, give Price credit. He is playing a great series. Guentzel has 2 points in 3 games. Zucker has 2 goals. Crosby has 3 points and 2 goals. Rust has 3 points. Malkin has been invisible on the goal sheet. The pk unit is 10/10, so I dont know why you brought that up. Like I said, they have no depth. The top 6 could only do so much. The issue is their 3rd line being a no show all year. It has been an issue all year. Idk how you can say its all being rigged for pittsburgh when they have huge flaws all year
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Aug 6 at 9:28
#21
Olof for Vezina
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Come on, give Price credit. He is playing a great series. Guentzel has 2 points in 3 games. Zucker has 2 goals. Crosby has 3 points and 2 goals. Rust has 3 points. Malkin has been invisible on the goal sheet. The pk unit is 10/10, so I dont know why you brought that up. Like I said, they have no depth. The top 6 could only do so much. The issue is their 3rd line being a no show all year. It has been an issue all year. Idk how you can say its all being rigged for pittsburgh when they have huge flaws all year


You're team is underperforming and are playing an underrated, but inferior team. I could be blindsided by PTSD from that previous "luck" the penguins had but the idea of Losing this play in round and getting 10A is too poetic.
 
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