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What do y'all think?

Why do the Avs need Murray when Francouz and Grubauer have been better? Easy no from COL.

Pens were in talks with the Avs about Murray in 2019 offseason. I do agree Francouz has been better but Grubauer is more inconsistent than Murray imo

No they weren’t , that was debunked. It came from dater who had been caught making up rumours and his nowhockey buddies trying to drive traffic to their sites

Yes they were do your research (*at the trade deadline)

Evolving Hockey predicted contract for Kevin Shattenkirk = 8 yr term @ 6.091M to stay with the same team (TB). The only reason he signed with Tampa for so cheaply was because he was bought out from his Rangers contract that was 4 x 6.65M....How exactly are you getting him for 3 x 4M?

Pietrangelo's is 8x 8.427M. Barrie's is 8 x 7.962M. Krug's is 5 x 7.357M. Gustafsson's is 5x 5.962. TJ Brodie's is 5x 5.757M as an fyi.

1st off tampa cant afford to give Shattenkirk that. 2nd because that is what he is worth 3rd he is surely not worth 6 million as he played bottom pair for tampa for most of the season

No they weren’t, don’t believe what you read from hack writers and their failing buddies

Avs writers who know what they are taking about with legit sources in dnvr debunked it

It came from dater, he made it up, he is a hack writer who had been exposed multiple times for fabricating trade rumours

That is not where I got it from but ok. If you actually read my description it says that it was just a rumor. Here is the article: https://www.milehighhockey.com/2020/5/12/21255829/are-the-colorado-avalanche-interested-in-matt-murray-trade-rumors

Tampa isn't really expected to re-sign him unless he plays again for under value for a shot at the Cup.

Go argue with the experts that run the database service that is pretty accurate with numbers (not necessarily team) . Yes you can change a variable and get a better representation of what he will actually get when you select another team. But the example is the cheapest contract that he is due given the variables. You might not like it and think otherwise, but you are not even in the same ballpark money-wise.

You can say oh he played 3rd pairing....but that is ignoring the fact that Tampa wanted to pair it's youngsters with a veteran d-man and not get them killed on the 3rd pairing together (Sergachev age 22 and Cernak age 23)...does Tampa demote the 2nd pair guys because they produced 22 points less each than either guy on the 3rd pairing? No, because they know why each guy played each pairing. Tampa's 3rd pairing guys (#5/6 d-men) are better than most team's #3 d-men. So saying Shattenkirk is a #5 d-man and should be paid 4M a year on short-term deal...not going to happen.

Read the article “ Last week, Dan Kingerski of Pittsburgh Hockey Now”
Like I said dater and his buddies who are all hacks who creates their hockey now network push their click bait articles

Tom hunter isn’t an avs fan or one who has connections he’s a maple leafs fan who lives in Ontario. He doesn’t carry and credibility

This is why it was debunked by every credible avs coverage outlet, like I told you

Evolving wild contract predictions are all garbage lmfao. 8 years at 6+ million for shatty? Yeah right.

The Gus and Barrie ones are also gross overpays.

Literally not a single educated COL fan ever proposed this nor would agree to it

Dater is the biggest hack.
Not only a scummy past, but can’t seem to hold a job and makes up 0 iq “rumours” to sell subscriptions

Even if it was true and they were talking to the pens at the deadline, remember avs were going on a cup run with 2 hurt goalies.. maybe that's the reason, with 2 healthy goalies and a future number one in annunen this trade no longer makes sense

Kingerski is not a "hack" dude was literally the only pittsburgh writer who said we were shopping Kahun at the deadline https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/growing-noise-around-penguins-trade-deadline-what-to-watch/ he has good sources

I don't think the Avs are still interested in Murray but I could see why they would've been before Francouz exploded this year

i'd rather use the 4m on Shatty to help our bottom six imo

Where have you seen Annunen for Murray thrown around? Not on here...

yet not one single media outlet picked up or talked about this rumour.....BC, he did an opinion speculation piece and used dater to try to promote it using the Hockey Now network, which gained 0 traction.

That sounds like some hack like work to me. Write some speculation, it gets shot down, then double down on it using Dater

So you are pretty much saying Jan Rutta is a youngster? Dude is older than 28 playing with hedman the 4 mill on Shattenkirk for 2 or 3 years is different than 6 mill for 8 years

1st off he is lead editor for milehighhockey witch has been proven to be credible. Sure he might not have connections but AGAIN it was just a rumor I literally mentioned that 3 times to you

1st off he isnt credible, ask every avs fans on here, they will tell you same about Tom Hunter. hes a leafs fan who lives in TO and doesnt cover the avs locally, he doesnt have any sources, he doesnt break trades, all killed the milehighhockey community with all the writers jumping ship.

And I said that Rumour was Debunked by DNVR who actually cover the Avs, who actually have connections to the team,

but ill humour you...even IF...IFFF, the avs were inserted in Murray, they are trading one of the better Goalie prospects ni Annunen for him, that is just delusional return on Murray who is coming off a terrible year and lost his job even in the playoffs....Again

He "lost his job" to an all star goalie who had an GSAA of 11.07 so I don't understand why you act like he lost it to some bum off the street. And he didn't even play that bad, he single-handedly won game 2 for us. I get you don't like the trade but you don't have to insult the guy

When you post a bad trade, avs have 2 goalies under contract next year who are better than Murray this season so they are not adding a third by moving out their top goalie prospect,

If someone post something with no logic to it you are open to be criticized, especially when they make the bold claim I f seen this talked about a lot, yeah by pens fans who think they are going to have a team do a bad trade to help
Them out...