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Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 7, 2020
Published: Aug. 7, 2020
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1$900,000
2$1,500,000
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20$81,500,000$77,293,512$1,367,073$3,707,500$4,206,488
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
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$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 4
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
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UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
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UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
G
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 9:56 a.m.
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Carolina might do Pesce for Connor 1 for 1, this is a joke.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Carolina might do Pesce for Connor 1 for 1, this is a joke.


I'm pretty sure he's just looking. CAR would need to add Suzuki or Bokk if you wanted to shed Gardiner for the Hawks Best RD.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 9:59 a.m.
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I'm pretty sure he's just looking. CAR would need to add Suzuki or Bokk if you wanted to shed Gardiner for the Hawks Best RD.


Then don't. Gardiner is not a cap dump, and it's more than possible to get a positive return for him
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Carolina might do Pesce for Connor 1 for 1, this is a joke.


trade is fair pesce plays on the same core as slavin and is not worth connor 1 for 1
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:01 a.m.
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Then don't. Gardiner is not a cap dump, and it's more than possible to get a positive return for him


Thats fine. Just hoping the Hawks don't trade for Gardiner...at all. His 13 ATOI, zero points, and Minus one against the Rangers isn't exactly screaming quality player.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Teemu_salami
trade is fair pesce plays on the same core as slavin and is not worth connor 1 for 1


yeah that was my thought process. If Pesce was a 40pt player, i think it could work. But Winnipeg probably asks for more
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Teemu_salami
trade is fair pesce plays on the same core as slavin and is not worth connor 1 for 1


Pesce is worth Nylander 1 for 1, Nylander > Connor
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.
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Thats fine. Just hoping the Hawks don't trade for Gardiner...at all. His 13 ATOI, zero points, and Minus one against the Rangers isn't exactly screaming quality player.


His xGF, xGA and the fact he was on the ice for 1 whole goal against this series suggests otherwise. He's been great. He's been unlucky offensively, but him and Fleury were great defensively.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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Pesce is worth Nylander 1 for 1, Nylander > Connor


You just don't know who Kyle Connor OR Slick Willy are.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
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You just don't know who Kyle Connor OR Slick Willy are.


I 100% do. I don't think people understand how good Brett Pesce is. Analytically, only 1 defender in the NHL is better in his own zone, and Nik Hjalmerssen is a cheat code defensively. His xGF and offesnive analytics make him all around a top 10 RHD, and a top 15 D overall. He's worth Nylander or Connor.

You're gonna say "oH sLaViN" Slavin plays with Dougie Hamilton, Pesce carries his own pairing, playing with noted black hole Joel Edmundson
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:07 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
His xGF, xGA and the fact he was on the ice for 1 whole goal against this series suggests otherwise. He's been great. He's been unlucky offensively, but him and Fleury were great defensively.


You'd think if he was SOO good he'd turn the ice once or twice, but the minus one means that he was NEVER on the ice the any goals for either.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:08 a.m.
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I 100% do. I don't think people understand how good Brett Pesce is. Analytically, only 1 defender in the NHL is better in his own zone, and Nik Hjalmerssen is a cheat code defensively. His xGF and offesnive analytics make him all around a top 10 RHD, and a top 15 D overall. He's worth Nylander or Connor.

You're gonna say "oH sLaViN" Slavin plays with Dougie Hamilton, Pesce carries his own pairing, playing with noted black hole Joel Edmundson


I agree with you on Pesce. He's a stud and on a good contract. I dont AT ALL agree Nylander > Connor.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:08 a.m.
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You'd think if he was SOO good he'd turn the ice once or twice, but the minus one means that he was NEVER on the ice the any goals for either.


You realise that 75% of Carolina's scoring in this series came from 2 players right? Gardiner not being on the ice with Aho or Svechnikov isn't a surprise
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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You realise that 75% of Carolina's scoring in this series came from 2 players right? Gardiner not being on the ice with Aho or Svechnikov isn't a surprise


I do
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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I agree with you on Pesce. He's a stud and on a good contract. I dont AT ALL agree Nylander > Connor.


Connor is overrated, he doesn't do defense. His offense outside of his shot is kind of average as well. His skating is decent, not great, his passing is adequate. I think Nylander is just better.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:10 a.m.
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I do


Kind of sums up why the rest of the team had 2 3 goals all series. When there's only 3 goals, it's not a shock he wasn't on the ice *at even strength* for them. He was for a PP goal, but obviously, +/- is only ES
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.
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Kind of sums up why the rest of the team had 2 3 goals all series. When there's only 3 goals, it's not a shock he wasn't on the ice *at even strength* for them. He was for a PP goal, but obviously, +/- is only ES


Yeah.... and you appear to be bragging about this?
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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Connor is overrated, he doesn't do defense. His offense outside of his shot is kind of average as well. His skating is decent, not great, his passing is adequate. I think Nylander is just better.


Nylander players ZERO defense. He's less physical than Kane, Less Physical and Johnny hockey. Not suggesting hits are the only kind of physicality, BUT absolute truth here...he has less career hits than Kubalik...in his rookie year....in this shortened season....when he got 8-10 ATOI at the beginning of the season. It's a joke how little defense Nylander plays. I would NOT do a Pesce Nylander 1 for 1 trade. TOR needs to send more.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:36 a.m.
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Yeah.... and you appear to be bragging about this?


No. Just saying that trying to use a -1 to say he's not a good player when his team has 2 players responsible for all but 3 goals is kind of a reach
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.
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No. Just saying that trying to use a -1 to say he's not a good player when his team has 2 players responsible for all but 3 goals is kind of a reach


He's not a good player because he played ZERO defense for TOR too.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:38 a.m.
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Nylander players ZERO defense. He's less physical than Kane, Less Physical and Johnny hockey. Not suggesting hits are the only kind of physicality, BUT absolute truth here...he has less career hits than Kubalik...in his rookie year....in this shortened season....when he got 8-10 ATOI at the beginning of the season. It's a joke how little defense Nylander plays. I would NOT do a Pesce Nylander 1 for 1 trade. TOR needs to send more.


Oh, you dislike Nylander, not like Connor, that makes far more sense.

I agree with everything you said, but Nylander does defence. His positioning in his own zone is naturally better than most forwards, he's usually not one to open a bakery and start dishing out turnovers. And he's always going to be overvalued because he's a 60 point forward playing in Toronto. I would ideally want Nylander + for Pesce, but saying that on here is like going into a school mirror and saying "beetlejuice" three times
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:39 a.m.
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He's not a good player because he played ZERO defense for TOR too.


I disagree with that. For years he was their best defenceman in his own zone. Right up until they got Muzzin. He's better analytically speaking at least, than Rielly or anyone else they had which isn't a highbar but still.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
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Then don't. Gardiner is not a cap dump, and it's more than possible to get a positive return for him


I don’t think people will want his contract after a poor regular season and incomplete playoffs. If you think he has positive value, fine. However there is absolutely, positively, NO-WAY. That he gets you Murphy from Chicago. You absolutely must add a top prospect like bean or Suzuki.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:38 a.m.
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I don’t think people will want his contract after a poor regular season and incomplete playoffs. If you think he has positive value, fine. However there is absolutely, positively, NO-WAY. That he gets you Murphy from Chicago. You absolutely must add a top prospect like bean or Suzuki.


Thinking Murphy is worth Suzuki is laughable.

As for Gardiner, he didn't even have a bad season. He was on pace to break the 30 point mark, and he had a PDO so bad that there's either a bridge of ladders he walks under every day, or a path of cracked mirrors. Gardiner was SO unlucky offensively, because he did generate a lot. He was victim to the depth not being able to finish ANYTHING.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.
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Thinking Murphy is worth Suzuki is laughable.

As for Gardiner, he didn't even have a bad season. He was on pace to break the 30 point mark, and he had a PDO so bad that there's either a bridge of ladders he walks under every day, or a path of cracked mirrors. Gardiner was SO unlucky offensively, because he did generate a lot. He was victim to the depth not being able to finish ANYTHING.

If he’s so good, I recommend you keep him. He can’t be unlucky all of the time, can he?
 
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