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Drouin for Graves

Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 7, 2020
Published: Aug. 7, 2020
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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@DriveFor25 is this one of those guys we talked about yesterday? lol
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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@DriveFor25 is this one of those guys we talked about yesterday? lol


?
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:55 a.m.
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?


We were talking yesterday about the hourly flood of Drouin to COL trade proposals and he said it was only 1-2 guys doing it lol
Aug. 7, 2020 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
We were talking yesterday about the hourly flood of Drouin to COL trade proposals and he said it was only 1-2 guys doing it lol


Oh I've actually not seen them in awhile.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:07 a.m.
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Oh I've actually not seen them in awhile.


theyre there, i promise lol
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.
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theyre there, i promise lol


Would you bite on this? Drouin would probably catch a spark with MacKinnon.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:11 a.m.
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Back when he was in the Rangers organization, I always thought of Ryan Graves as a Dan Girardi type player. Those are hard to come by nowadays with the new type of play in the league. I hope Colorado holds onto him long term.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Would you bite on this? Drouin would probably catch a spark with MacKinnon.


No and no lol.
Theres no "spark" or "connection" there. By the time next season fires up, it will have been 7 years since they last played together.
Go back into your memory banks and think of someone you knew in college/high school 7 years ago but havent spoken to since. Feel free to call them and ask if theres "still a spark" there, and let me know the results lol
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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Back when he was in the Rangers organization, I always thought of Ryan Graves as a Dan Girardi type player. Those are hard to come by nowadays with the new type of play in the league. I hope Colorado holds onto him long term.


Girardi was poo poo defensively. Graves is 40+ tears of joy
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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No and no lol.
Theres no "spark" or "connection" there. By the time next season fires up, it will have been 7 years since they last played together.
Go back into your memory banks and think of someone you knew in college/high school 7 years ago but havent spoken to since. Feel free to call them and ask if theres "still a spark" there, and let me know the results lol

way to spoil my party....
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Girardi was poo poo defensively. Graves is 40+ tears of joy


As a COL fan, even i dont put much stock into +/- anymore.
Sorta one of those stats with very little meaning anymore (kinda like goalie wins)
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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Edited Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:27 a.m.
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@DriveFor25 is this one of those guys we talked about yesterday? lol


Xd. I was more thinking about Price megadeals, but yeah I’ve seen some Drouin to COL deals. The creator isn’t a Habs fan anyway and they’re not THAT common. Anyway, even if they were, I can’t do anything about them. At least this trade looks 3000 % more reasonable than most offers I’ve seen involving Drouin lmao. If you really hate Drouin/Price to COL trades that much, I’d recommend putting repeat offender in your ignore list or something lol.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
As a COL fan, even i dont put much stock into +/- anymore.
Sorta one of those stats with very little meaning anymore (kinda like goalie wins)


I agree but speaks volumes if we are comparing Dan Girardi lol
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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Quoting: DriveFor25
Xd. I was more thinking about Price megadeals, but yeah I’ve seen some Drouin to COL deals. The creator isn’t a Habs fan anyway and they’re not THET common. Anyway, even if they were, I can’t do anything about them. At least this trade looks 3000 % more reasonable than most offers I’ve seen involving Drouin lmao. If you really hate Drouin/Price to COL trades that much, I’d recommend putting repeat offender in your ignore list or something lol.


XD nah, this guys good, no one goes on my ignore list
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:21 a.m.
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XD nah, this guys good, no one goes on my ignore list


Appreciate youcool
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
Back when he was in the Rangers organization, I always thought of Ryan Graves as a Dan Girardi type player. Those are hard to come by nowadays with the new type of play in the league. I hope Colorado holds onto him long term.


COL shouldn’t deal Graves IMO (he can be signed for cheap and he can be very useful for their D core) and MTL should try and see if Drouin sparks with Kotkaniemi instead of Suzuki. In the small sample size I’ve seen with those two together, Drouin has looked pretty good. I think Drouin is his own worse enemy and that he really wants to succeed in MTL, but that he has trouble developing chemistry with the players he’s put with (he needs to play with a 2-way guy (so that he doesn’t have to worry about defense that much) that will let Drouin be the creative puck handler on the line while remaining an offensive threat imo and KK is perfect). I just think he doesn’t have chemistry with Suzuki.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:26 a.m.
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XD nah, this guys good, no one goes on my ignore list


Quoting: McRanteskog
XD nah, this guys good, no one goes on my ignore list


Yeah @Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan is a reasonable dude anyway that I always enjoy seeing on this site and he’s nothing like those Price for Girard and a first type of CF users whatsoever haha. I’ve put those a couple of Habs fans in my list tbh and it’s mainly those that put up multiple Hab AGMs with 7+ trades with the same unrealistic, NHL 20 type offers. Nothing against them, just not my cup of tea.
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:29 a.m.
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Yeah @Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan is a reasonable dude anyway and he’s nothing like those Price for Girard and a first type of CF users whatsoever haha. I’ve put those a couple of Habs fans in my list tbh and it’s mainly those that put up multiple Hab AGMs with 7+ trades with the same unrealistic, NHL 20 type offers. Nothing against them, just not my cup of tea.


I don't see Carey Price wearing a different jersey personally. Are all the Price to COL deals a Segway from Patrick Roy going from MTL to COL in 1995??
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:35 a.m.
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I don't see Carey Price wearing a different jersey personally. Are all the Price to COL deals a Segway from Patrick Roy going from MTL to COL in 1995??


IMO Price and Gallagher will 100 % retire as Habs. Especially Price. No way in hell he gets dealt. He is loved here and always plays well for us (his stats don’t always show it since our D sucks). IDK why some fans want to trade Price. Likely the same people that were mad at the Weber trade and kept trading him in AGMs lol.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.
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No and no lol.
Theres no "spark" or "connection" there. By the time next season fires up, it will have been 7 years since they last played together.
Go back into your memory banks and think of someone you knew in college/high school 7 years ago but havent spoken to since. Feel free to call them and ask if theres "still a spark" there, and let me know the results lol


"thanks for the advice me and karen just had an amazing night together lol. i cant believe the spark was still there" .....
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.
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"thanks for the advice me and karen just had an amazing night together lol. i cant believe the spark was still there" .....


Im literally LOL right now hahaahah
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Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:55 a.m.
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Im literally LOL right now hahaahah


lol i couldnt help myself but i do agree with your point.
Aug. 7, 2020 at 11:58 a.m.
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I wouldnt take Drouin for free on the Avs, what a train wreck of a player when he faces the smallest bit of adversity
Aug. 7, 2020 at 2:03 p.m.
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Habs need Drouin more than Graves with Romanov around next season
Graves is 2nd pairing guy with little offensive production
Aug. 7, 2020 at 6:44 p.m.
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The easiest of no's from Colorado.

Top 4 D > middle 6 forward, especially when you consider cap hits.
 
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