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Keep Talb RFAs Gus vs TJForb Yel 2Fs come up

Created by: Real_MC_Hockey
Initial Creation Date: Aug 8, 2020
Published: Aug 8 at 2:56
Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames
Team Explanation
NOTES: No trades except rights to D-men away so other teams have early chance to sign before UFA. Jankowski not qualified but signs back for less (1.4M). Full farm team done & 2 G to ECHL.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Gawdin, Glenn1$750,000
Jankowski, Mark2$1,400,000
Kirkland, Justin2$750,000
Kylington, Oliver2$860,000
Mangiapane, Andrew2$2,980,000
Parsons, Tyler1$750,000
Nielsen, Andrew1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Gustafsson, Erik3$4,950,000
Froese, Byron2$750,000
Lomberg, Ryan1$750,000
Robinson, Buddy2$750,000
Valiev, Rinat1$750,000
Rinaldo, Zac1$750,000
Quine, Alan1$750,000
Gillies, Jon1$750,000
Petrovic, Alex2$825,000
Ryan, Joakim2$775,000
Talbot, Cam3$3,775,000
Czarnik, Austin1$800,000
Trades
CGY
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (BUF)
NYR
    Rights to TJ Brodie
    CGY
    1. 2021 5th round pick (TOR)
    TOR
      Rights to Forbort
      CGY
      1. 2021 3rd round pick (WPG)
      WPG
        Rights to Hamonic
        Buyouts
        • Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
        • Michael Stone: $1,166,667
        DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
        2020
        CGY
        CGY
        EDM
        SJS
        CGY
        CGY
        CGY
        2021
        CGY
        CGY
        NYR
        CGY
        BUF
        WPG
        CGY
        TOR
        CGY
        CGY
        2022
        CGY
        CGY
        CGY
        CGY
        CGY
        CGY
        CGY
        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
        23$81,500,000$81,830,832$0$947,500-$330,832
        Left WingCenterRight Wing
        CGY
        Gaudreau, Johnny
        $6,750,000
        LW
        UFA - 2
        CGY
        Monahan, Sean
        $6,375,000
        C
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        CGY
        Lindholm, Elias
        $4,850,000
        RW, C
        UFA - 4
        CGY
        Tkachuk, Matthew
        $7,000,000
        LW, RW
        RFA - 2
        CGY
        Backlund, Mikael
        $5,350,000
        C
        NTC
        UFA - 4
        CGY
        Mangiapane, Andrew
        $2,980,000
        LW, RW
        RFA
        CGY
        Lucic, Milan
        $5,250,000
        LW
        NMC
        UFA - 3
        CGY
        Bennett, Sam
        $2,550,000
        C, LW
        RFA - 1
        CGY
        Dubé, Dillon
        $778,333
        RW, LW
        RFA - 1
        CGY
        Jankowski, Mark
        $1,400,000
        LW, C
        RFA
        CGY
        Ryan, Derek
        $3,125,000
        C
        UFA - 1
        CGY
        Czarnik, Austin
        $800,000
        RW, LW
        UFA
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        CGY
        Giordano, Mark
        $6,750,000
        LD
        NTC
        UFA - 2
        CGY
        Andersson, Rasmus
        $4,550,000
        RD
        UFA - 6
        CGY
        Talbot, Cam
        $3,775,000
        G
        UFA
        CGY
        Hanifin, Noah
        $4,950,000
        LD
        UFA - 4
        CGY
        Gustafsson, Erik
        $4,950,000
        LD/RD
        UFA
        CGY
        Rittich, David
        $2,750,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        CGY
        Välimäki, Juuso
        $894,166
        LD
        RFA - 1
        CGY
        Yelesin, Alexander
        $925,000
        RD
        RFA - 1
        CGY
        Kylington, Oliver
        $860,000
        LD
        RFA
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        CGY
        Ruzicka, Adam
        $801,666
        C, RW
        RFA - 2
        CGY
        Gawdin, Glenn
        $750,000
        C, RW
        RFA

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        Aug 8 at 2:58
        #1
        get off my lawn...
        Joined: Jul 2018
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        2nd and a 3rd??? For ufa rights? You’re joking right?
        Aug 8 at 3:00
        #2
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        Check it yo!
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        Quoting: Jamiepo
        2nd and a 3rd??? For ufa rights? You’re joking right?

        NOPE your Leafs are in HORRIBLE cap trouble and need to secure a solid D like Brodie
        Aug 8 at 3:00
        #3
        Joined: Jul 2020
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        The Jets aren't going to give you a 3rd for a UFA. The only way the Jets go after Hamonic is if he it's willing to sign a cheap, probably $2 mil or less, bottom pairing deal. So, he likely isn't going to Winnipeg.
        Aug 8 at 3:02
        #4
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        Quoting: Windjammer
        The Jets aren't going to give you a 3rd for a UFA. The only way the Jets go after Hamonic is if he it's willing to sign a cheap, probably $2 mil or less, bottom pairing deal. So, he likely isn't going to Winnipeg.
        I guess you forget he is super family-oriented and forced a trade out of NYI to get closer to home and wants to be in his native Manitoba and they NEED him. Nice try!
        Aug 8 at 3:03
        #5
        Spleenmaster1002
        Joined: Feb 2019
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        Didn’t Hayes get like a 5th for UFA rights last summer? No way do these players get those picks for their UFA rights.
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        Aug 8 at 3:06
        #6
        Bandwagon fairweathe
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        Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
        I guess you forget he is super family-oriented and forced a trade out of NYI to get closer to home and wants to be in his native Manitoba and they NEED him. Nice try!

        Monster house just built on the outskirts of wpg, I’m sure there could be something done for the kulikov money coming off the books especially if he doesn’t demand too much term, he gave the isles a bargain a few years back, I’m sure he comes home for similar money. He’s not a bad partner for rookie heinola or even veteran morrissey, plays bigger than his size. For that token brodie is a fit also in wpg. But not sure anyone spending too much to jump the line for either.
        Aug 8 at 3:08
        #7
        get off my lawn...
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        Edited Aug 8 at 3:14
        Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
        NOPE your Leafs are in HORRIBLE cap trouble and need to secure a solid D like Brodie


        Ummm... you sent him to nyr, you may get a 5th or a 6th for rights to hammer and Brodie but Forbort, you will not get anything.

        I live in Calgary and cheer the flames... you’re not filling me with Brodie.... also leafs allowed 6 more goals than the flames during 70 games this year....
        Aug 8 at 3:09
        #8
        Joined: May 2019
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        Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
        NOPE your Leafs are in HORRIBLE cap trouble and need to secure a solid D like Brodie


        then why are they giving up a 5th for Forbort?
        Aug 8 at 3:10
        #9
        Joined: Jun 2019
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        Brodie has Toronto on his NTC, he won't waive there
        Aug 8 at 3:10
        #10
        CGY
        Joined: Dec 2015
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        Way too much for Gustafsson.

        UFA rights have very little value.
        Aug 8 at 3:15
        #11
        Dubas isnt a genius
        Joined: Apr 2020
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        Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
        NOPE your Leafs are in HORRIBLE cap trouble and need to secure a solid D like Brodie


        So then they just sign him in free agency lol

        He's a UFA. He can sign anywhere he wants.
        Aug 8 at 3:15
        #12
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        Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
        I guess you forget he is super family-oriented and forced a trade out of NYI to get closer to home and wants to be in his native Manitoba and they NEED him. Nice try!


        Yeah, except he's not needed unless he's coming as a 3rd pair D and will sign cheap. Which as I said he likely won't do.

        If he wants to play near home, we'll just wait and sign him without giving up any picks. If he doesn't, oh well, no loss. Nice try!
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        Aug 8 at 3:19
        #13
        MisstheWhalers
        Joined: Jan 2019
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        Quoting: Birtle34
        Monster house just built on the outskirts of wpg, I’m sure there could be something done for the kulikov money coming off the books especially if he doesn’t demand too much term, he gave the isles a bargain a few years back, I’m sure he comes home for similar money. He’s not a bad partner for rookie heinola or even veteran morrissey, plays bigger than his size. For that token brodie is a fit also in wpg. But not sure anyone spending too much to jump the line for either.


        I thought he has some big shack on
        Lake of the Woods?
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        Aug 8 at 3:19
        #14
        Bandwagon fairweathe
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        Quoting: MisstheWhalers
        I thought he has some big shack on
        Lake of the Woods?

        Ah that doesn’t help my argument lol
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        Aug 8 at 4:02
        #15
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        Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
        Brodie has Toronto on his NTC, he won't waive there


        pretty sure you can't decline your rights being traded, you just say "no" when the team tries to sign you then they either trade the rights again or let you walk to free agency.
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        Aug 8 at 4:02
        #16
        Olof for Vezina
        Joined: Oct 2018
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        Well just sign him for free thanks lol?
        Aug 8 at 8:54
        #17
        Thread Starter
        Check it yo!
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        Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
        Brodie has Toronto on his NTC, he won't waive there
        Riiigghhhttt..I forgot you knew because you are his agent right? No way you know that is a fact
        Aug 8 at 8:56
        #18
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        Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
        Well just sign him for free thanks lol?
        Unless you want to be sure to get h8m in a very tough cap economy then you get early access to make sure you get an underrated smooth skating D man. Think like a GM during post-COVID Economic times guys!
        Aug 8 at 8:58
        #19
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        Quoting: Windjammer
        Yeah, except he's not needed unless he's coming as a 3rd pair D and will sign cheap. Which as I said he likely won't do.

        If he wants to play near home, we'll just wait and sign him without giving up any picks. If he doesn't, oh well, no loss. Nice try!


        Quoting: Windjammer
        Yeah, except he's not needed unless he's coming as a 3rd pair D and will sign cheap. Which as I said he likely won’t do.
        If he wants to play near home, we'll just wait and sign him without giving up any picks. If he doesn't, oh well, no loss. Nice try!
        .

        WHAT? You don’t follow the news or evaluate your team well....he wants to go home and frankly he could be your top shutdown D-man there on a 2nd pairing easily because Jets D is poor.
        Aug 8 at 8:59
        #20
        Olof for Vezina
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        Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
        Unless you want to be sure to get h8m in a very tough cap economy then you get early access to make sure you get an underrated smooth skating D man. Think like a GM during post-COVID Economic times guys!


        We don't need to sign him nor will we likely have the cap space. We'll keep the picks.
        Aug 8 at 9:00
        #21
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        Quoting: firezfurx
        So then they just sign him in free agency lol. He's a UFA. He can sign anywhere he wants.
        Again in a super tight cap time with Leafs in terrible shape, you need more security in getting him so tradings for early access could easily happen
        Aug 8 at 9:45
        #22
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        Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
        Again in a super tight cap time with Leafs in terrible shape, you need more security in getting him so tradings for early access could easily happen


        Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
        Again in a super tight cap time with Leafs in terrible shape, you need more security in getting him so tradings for early access could easily happen


        But how does it help Toronto of the rangers have his rights?
        Aug 8 at 10:08
        #23
        Dubas isnt a genius
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        Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
        Again in a super tight cap time with Leafs in terrible shape, you need more security in getting him so tradings for early access could easily happen


        Yah sure we could sign Brodie but if we had to give up a 2nd/3rd then why not sign DeMelo or Tanev? Also, what stops Brodie from not signing with Toronto and just going back to Calgary? The last time a UFA was traded was Hayes who had already agreed to terms with Philly. They got a 5th, so I doubt Brodie would even get a 7th.
        Aug 9 at 1:31
        #24
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        Brodie is way better than those guys
        Aug 9 at 1:32
        #25
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        Quoting: firezfurx
        Yah sure we could sign Brodie but if we had to give up a 2nd/3rd then why not sign DeMelo or Tanev? Also, what stops Brodie from not signing with Toronto and just going back to Calgary? The last time a UFA was traded was Hayes who had already agreed to terms with Philly. They got a 5th, so I doubt Brodie would even get a 7th.

        Brodie is way better than those guys
         
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