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Different Approach

Created by: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Initial Creation Date: Aug 8, 2020
Published: Aug 8, 2020 at 3:32
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Puljujärvi, Jesse1$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bear, Ethan3$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brossoit, Laurent2$1,500,000
Hoffman, Mike3$8,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis3$925,000
Trades
EDM
  1. Veleno, Joseph
  2. Zadina, Filip
DET
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Yamamoto, Kailer
  3. Puljujärvi, Jesse
EDM
    Future Considerations
    OTT
    1. Russell, Kris
    2. 2021 3rd round pick (EDM)
    EDM
    1. 2021 3rd round pick (DAL)
    DAL
    1. Benning, Matthew [RFA Rights]
    2. Khaira, Jujhar
    3. 2021 6th round pick (PIT)
    Buyouts
    • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
    • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    2021
    EDM
    DAL
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    2022
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$78,974,992$341,326$1,562,500$2,525,008
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Lafreniere, Alexis
    $925,000
    EDM
    McDavid, Connor
    $12,500,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    Hoffman, Mike
    $8,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    $6,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Draisaitl, Leon
    $8,500,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    EDM
    Neal, James
    $5,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    DET
    Zadina, Filip
    $894,167
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Veleno, Joseph
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 3
    EDM
    Archibald, Josh
    $1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Nygård, Joakim
    $875,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Haas, Gaëtan
    $915,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Chiasson, Alex
    $2,150,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    EDM
    Nurse, Darnell
    $5,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Bear, Ethan
    $3,500,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    EDM
    Koskinen, Mikko
    $4,500,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Klefbom, Oscar
    $4,167,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    EDM
    Larsson, Adam
    $4,166,666
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Brossoit, Laurent
    $1,500,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Jones, Caleb
    $850,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    EDM
    Bouchard, Evan
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 3

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    Aug 8, 2020 at 3:42
    #1
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    Hard pass on the Detroit trade.
    That might get just Veleno, definitely doesn't get just Zadina, and your valuations are wildly off if you believe it would get both.
    Yamamoto is a great player, he seems to fit well in Edmonton's system, best to keep him there as his value to the oilers is higher than his value to anyone else.
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    Aug 8, 2020 at 3:42
    #2
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    Also getting rid of Russell costs way more than a 3rd.
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    Aug 8, 2020 at 3:43
    #3
    Joined: May 2016
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    Lmao Wings decline and erase ken holland's name from their history
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    Aug 8, 2020 at 3:54
    #4
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    Quoting: Seider53
    Hard pass on the Detroit trade.
    That might get just Veleno, definitely doesn't get just Zadina, and your valuations are wildly off if you believe it would get both.
    Yamamoto is a great player, he seems to fit well in Edmonton's system, best to keep him there as his value to the oilers is higher than his value to anyone else.


    Quoting: Drw4209
    Lmao Wings decline and erase ken holland's name from their history


    Yamamoto was getting a ppg. Zadina was getting 0.5ppg.

    Puljujarvi just had a great season. Veleno just had a disappointing season.

    I actually thought I was overpaying and I'm not an Oilers fan.
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    Aug 8, 2020 at 4:04
    #5
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Yamamoto was getting a ppg. Zadina was getting 0.5ppg.

    Puljujarvi just had a great season. Veleno just had a disappointing season.

    I actually thought I was overpaying and I'm not an Oilers fan.


    Vastly different linemates when comparing Zadina to Yamamoto. Yamamamoto rarely played without 2 of, McDavid, Draisaitl or RNH on his line.
    Zadina's frequent linemates, Luke Glendening, Val Filpula and Frans Nielsen...
    Aug 8, 2020 at 4:07
    #6
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    Quoting: Seider53
    Vastly different linemates when comparing Zadina to Yamamoto. Yamamamoto rarely played without 2 of, McDavid, Draisaitl or RNH on his line.
    Zadina's frequent linemates, Luke Glendening, Val Filpula and Frans Nielsen...


    Consider also that Zadina and Veleno are 1 year younger than Yamamoto, Zadina's d+1 and d+2 seasons were considerably better than Yamamoto. Veleno's D+1 and 2 seasons are looking weaker, but he is working on some specific areas of his game. The offensive play massively improved in the AHL over the season and was reflected on the scoresheet by the end of the year.
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    Aug 8, 2020 at 4:35
    #7
    Joined: Feb 2020
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    This kind of seems like borderline trolling of Wings fans. I mean "Veleno just had a disappointing season?" a 19-year-old in the AHL that had 11 goals, 12 assists for 23 points in 54 games. TRADE HIM! Disappointing season, we can have that on our 17-54-5 team. We need to immediately get better by getting a 21-year-old who has played 53 NHL games and produced 31 points, a 29-year-old who is gonna be so much fun to see how well he plays when not with McDavid or Draisaitl, and Jesse Puljujarvi who is 22-year-old played int 139 NHL games for 17 goals, 20 assists, and 37 points.

    Yea, Yzerman I kind of gave you this team so go ahead and just throw in both first-round picks from two years ago. Jesse had 24 goals and 29 assists in the Finnish Elite league. Zadina doesn't seem like he is getting any better.
    Aug 8, 2020 at 5:10
    #8
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    Yamamoto looks so goos I wouldnt move him. Velano is gonna be a good 2 way guy but I dont think he becomes a stud. Maxes out as 2nd center maybe. Zadina looks ok but he isnt as dynamic or as good a skater as yama is. He's skilled , he'll be a good pro but idk if he lives up to his draft position. He seems terribly passive with the puck so hopefully more time fixes that. I hate kassian and who knows about pool party but both teams say no I think
    Aug 8, 2020 at 5:18
    #9
    Joined: May 2020
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Yamamoto was getting a ppg. Zadina was getting 0.5ppg.

    Puljujarvi just had a great season. Veleno just had a disappointing season.

    I actually thought I was overpaying and I'm not an Oilers fan.

    Veleno actually had a really bad start to the year and played way better after WJC. The trade doesn’t make sense for either team. Kassian is worth more to a contender and Yamamoto appears to have great chemistry with Draisaitl. Detroit is really lacking in quality center prospects and Zadina is looking really good on a offensive inept team.
     
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